Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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carolinakottonmouth

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OK i did it just like you said. So now its the wait game again. I have put the tops back in the Aero Gard trying to get them to start up on there own. Thanks for the advice.
 

Uncle Ben

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UB - Thanks for the awesome thread.

I have one question - I am 5 days into flowerin and I was wondering if its too late to top one of my babies off. She is growing faster than the other two and I had to raise the lights some more this morning.

Thanks for the feedback.
Depends on the response you want.
 

Bud Frosty

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Got a question for you Uncle Ben,
I have a plant in the flower room right now, I call it 'Incredible Hulk'. Out of some bagseed a friend gave me that I have growing in 13" 6 gal. pot. I just happened to have this one planted in the middle of the pot with some other seed out of the same batch. I was gonna thin down any way at some point. This thing at 10 days old was 12" wide and 10" tall with 6 sets of leaves. Individual leaves were 2&1/4" wide. A monster. Put it in 12/12 at 15 days after taking the bottom 2 shutes for clones. On day 19, 4 days after 12/12, I topped it leaving the 2nd and 3rd set, 4 total.
Will I still get the hormonal setup for 4 mains?

It has a massive stem, 1/2" dia, much potential. Although I don't know if its a female yet, am rolling the dice.
Just an update,U.B.:

At 12 days flowering, 28 days total, it is female. Woohoo! Sorry, I've been giving this thing alot of my space so I'm glad it hasn't been a waste. The 4 stems are all nice and even. After topping and removing all other fan leaves it is still 16" tall and 25" wide.
 

Uncle Ben

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Just an update,U.B.:

At 12 days flowering, 28 days total, it is female. Woohoo! Sorry, I've been giving this thing alot of my space so I'm glad it hasn't been a waste. The 4 stems are all nice and even. After topping and removing all other fan leaves it is still 16" tall and 25" wide.
Glad to hear she's a she and things are working out, but why did you remove ANY fan leaves?
 

Bud Frosty

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Glad to hear she's a she and things are working out, but why did you remove ANY fan leaves?
Thanks. It was my bad, I dropped 4 cfl lights plus a reflector on it, busted 3 fan sets on the bottom. Then after topping there were only 2 left, took them off just to even things up.
The plant doesn't seem to mind though, just keeps growin.
 

lurkmaster

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I am very happy with the results using this method, thanks for sharing the knowledge man, its greatly appreciated.

I topped this plant at the third node, because I wasn't sure if the first node was healthy enough, still have what looks like 4 main stem structures.


I will be topping my other plant at the second node when it is ready.
 

klmmicro

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Man, I am totally trying this on my next run. I topped one of my plants at the 6th node and let the bottom sides stay. Looking at what can be done by diverting the plants growth, I can see I messed up with that approach. Great info from all on this thread BTW!
 

randh2004

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im on my 15th set up the main stock. My plant is 26 inches tall in veg still....If i want to cut my plant to get two or four colas how would i do it???Is it to late???
 

Katatawnic

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I still do not understand
Next seedling and/or clone I top, I'm thinking of videoing it so that there can be a live demonstration. If I do and if it turns out sharp/clear enough to be helpful, I'll post it to this thread. :) It'll be a few weeks or so from now though, as I'll be planting either clones or seeds this Monday. But I figured that if the vid turns out well then it could be helpful for those who learn better with visual demonstration on top of written instructions.

I'm a n00b too, and even though my reading comprehension is quite adequate, I still read UB's first post to this thread a few times before I was sure that I had it down. Even then, it wasn't easy to visualize it well enough to have that "AHAH!" moment until my seedlings were developed enough.... then I had not only instructions and photos, but also my own plants to study.

Although Q & A can often be helpful, I'd suggest that you stick to the original post with UB's instructions for this technique, and not bother with the myriad of questions/replies just for now. He explained the how and why in detail, yet it was concise and written simply enough for the layman to understand it. The only question I posted to this thread was with a photo of the first plant I was going to top, just to make sure that I was correct as to which spot I'd snip to get the results I wanted. In other words, I was covering my ass instead of making an only slightly educated guess and risking screwing up a very healthy and happy plant. :mrgreen:
 

420weedman

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i said id try this ... heres my himalayan clone chopped at like 2nd node.
has 4 main branches that are pretty even with the help of super cropping
about 2 weeks into flowering now :)

 

born2killspam

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I just wish ppl could edit older posts.. Think of how many questions could have been saved if you could edit the OP to clarify what the first true node is.. Beyond that, the pictures are so clear that I don't know how ppl can be confused about cutting through nodes, or where to cut...
 

Uncle Ben

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I just wish ppl could edit older posts.. Think of how many questions could have been saved if you could edit the OP to clarify what the first true node is.. Beyond that, the pictures are so clear that I don't know how ppl can be confused about cutting through nodes, or where to cut...
If they don't understand, it's not my problem. Page one, 1st and 4th photo shows it all.

UB
 

by1969

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Hey Uncle Ben...I totally understand your concise explanation form the beginning. I have one question which I think I know the answer to, but I'm asking it anyway. (Hopefully it wasn't asked before). I have a nice clone with have 6-7 nodes. The 1st node is right above the soil. The 2nd and 3rd are nice and healthy and strong about 4 and 6 inches up. I'm gonna cut the 1st node branches off completely. Then I'm gonna top it above the 3rd node. Now I have 2 nodes. For 4 healthy colas, this should work fine right?
 

born2killspam

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Why cut them?? They aren't hurting anything down there.. Just dumping whatever energy/food reserves they have back into the plant..
Sound like this is a clone though.. Topping clones is generally the same, but you can't expect the absolute predictability/uniformity you get topping a seedling before its begun growing alternating nodes.. Also, stripping that lowest mode won't even guarantee that the plant won't try to grow new shoots from there.. Good thing to observe though when you do it..
 

by1969

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The lowest branches are weak and just a half inch or so above the soil. the 2nd and 3rd look and strong. if I cut the lowest, then the 2nd and 3rd nodes will produce the 4 fat colas...i'm hoping. Already did it and looking forward to see what happens. I don't see why it would be any different.

Why cut them?? They aren't hurting anything down there.. Just dumping whatever energy/food reserves they have back into the plant..
Sound like this is a clone though.. Topping clones is generally the same, but you can't expect the absolute predictability/uniformity you get topping a seedling before its begun growing alternating nodes.. Also, stripping that lowest mode won't even guarantee that the plant won't try to grow new shoots from there.. Good thing to observe though when you do it..
 
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