Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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Uncle Ben

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Hey Uncle...

Well just got through the 300 pages...MAn only took the last few nights..but was worth ever second of it...

Not only does one learn the basics of your first page LoL but all the the other items, topics that come from within....

You are a Blessing to this world of plants in general... as well as a hand full of others that gave their time here helping out answering a few questions from time to time.....

I don`t know you at all , But seems I know alot more of your views etc. when it comes to growing plants in general...

All the best to you and your Wife etc.etc and hope what ever bothers her goes away.. and you all have a Good 2011 YEAR...
LoL Now I got to spend another few weeks reading all your other threads etc etc..
You've got more patience than me! At least you got thru page one and two lol.

Happy New Year to you and yours too.

Grow hard,
UB
 

Pipe Dream

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Son of a bitch, does any one do anything other than extend their hand out? Want me to grow that damn plant out fer some of you guys?

In the first post of this thread I addressed your question Alganj.

Thanks and Happy New Year Dave!
Classy! Y did you make the thread if you dont want to help people?
 

odlaw

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Classy! Y did you make the thread if you dont want to help people?
hey pipe dream maybe you lazy like all the other peeps that keep asking questions which are all explained on page one


a lil bit of research goes along way man rather than just asking questions that have been answered multiple times and having others do the work for you, you should try doin a lil bit of reading b4 asking questions
 

Pipe Dream

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I'm just saying that it is unclear, seems to be that way on purpose to confuse them and stroke UB's ego. If you ask him he calls you a dumbass and doesn't answer your ?. All it takes is a simple answer and he wouldn't get asked the same question over and over. I know how bout not cropping the pic of the plant being pruned, that would help a ton. How does wanting to do it right the first time make you lazy? Oh because I don't wanna read 300 pages of mostly unimportant posts? Don't mean to be unfriendly but I fucked it up plenty of times before someone simply sowed me what i was doing wrong. I'm over it really I just lost a lot of respect when I was treated like a fool.
 

Danielsgb

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Nice! As an aside, if you know of a local gardener (or you) that composts commercially, top dress your pots with a 2" layer of fine compost. It will provide the balance nutrionally you seek. I got 6.5 cu. yds. of the finest compost you can imagine delivered for $150. Compsed of green material like leaves, twigs, horse manure.

Happy NY,
UB
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I'll look into that at my local nursery. I'll ask for Fine Compost. Always looking for balance.

I have been meaning to tell you about this.:mrgreen:
My Uncle was in town for a Dr. appointment. We decided to tell him about my grow set up. He is a farmer and rancher. He has an apple orchard too. He laughed about the FrigiDare plant.:mrgreen:
We discussed topping as it relates to apple trees and my Cannabis. He agreed on such high P levels being counter productive as it is so slowly released. He is fully into Organics, but he's also very into the preservatives being bad for us. More so on his Cattle as we eat that meat.
He liked the Jack's 20-20-20 and it's micro's. He couldn't believe they have some canna-specific fertilizer, and totally agreed on it being

I'm still using my gallon of Alaska Fish Emulsion 5-1-1, but we get F.E. by the 5 gallon bucket for the flower gardens from him. He didn't remember it's N-P-K but they get it by the Pallet container. He said he'll get me some humic acid too.
Thanks for all the help & I hope the New Year has a bumper crop coming for ya.
Daniels:blsmoke:
 

zizou21

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I feel bad for Uncle Ben. He is the first person I have found to write a guide intelligibly AND with proper grammar, yet everyone seems to be asking him simple questions that are answered in his post.. However, when I read terrible, incomprehensible guides with no detail or explanation whatsoever and I am left with thousands of questions, noo ne has any, and all the posts in the thread are "best guide ever dood! thxx"

makes no sense to me..
 

Uncle Ben

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I'll look into that at my local nursery. I'll ask for Fine Compost. Always looking for balance.

I have been meaning to tell you about this.:mrgreen:
My Uncle was in town for a Dr. appointment. We decided to tell him about my grow set up. He is a farmer and rancher. He has an apple orchard too. He laughed about the FrigiDare plant.:mrgreen:
I can imagine. Probably said, "it aint natural", O Brother style. :D

We discussed topping as it relates to apple trees and my Cannabis. He agreed on such high P levels being counter productive as it is so slowly released. He is fully into Organics, but he's also very into the preservatives being bad for us. More so on his Cattle as we eat that meat.
I have friends that raise their own calves to butcher, plus chickens, etc. At least they know what's in them. Neighbor won't eat meat unless it's been locally harvested (shot.....like antelope, deer). I eat what I want, and have a complete blood chemistry done about once a year. So far, so good.

Regarding plant culture, the best balance I've found is using chemicals, salts, to balance out what might be deficient in my organics and parent soil material. For example, I just sent off my friend's "black gold" sample to the TX A&M Soil and Water testing lab for analysis. My guess is the results will show it to be a little deficient in N and rather acidic. That's based on the green material which the city picks up via a vacuum truck that he has delivered. Those collections are leaves, twigs, and ground mulch from oaks, sycamores, elms, pecans and such and of course, spent Christmas trees now. Friend uses a 10:1 ratio (green/manure) for composting in these huge, long wind-rows which are turned and wetted down by a 227 HP Cummings engine gadget on tracks.....a 12' swath. Nurseries are too expensive. Try your landfill. More than likely they have a composting program and will give away some mighty fine compost, large or small grade. You want the fines for mixing, coarser material for top dressing your pots.

Horse manure is damn close, naturally, to the ratio you should seek as a standard food - 3-1-2.

I feel bad for Uncle Ben. He is the first person I have found to write a guide intelligibly AND with proper grammar, yet everyone seems to be asking him simple questions that are answered in his post.
If they can't get it after reading page one and two, it's their problem.

Back to the old grind for most of you folks, it's Monday of a new year, so rise and shine!

UB
 
hey i topped one of my plant at the 2nd and 4 new ones grew. but if i cut those will 8 grow? and can i start cloning if my plants are 4weeks into veg
 

Danielsgb

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I can imagine. Probably said, "it aint natural", O Brother style. :D

I have friends that raise their own calves to butcher, plus chickens, etc. At least they know what's in them. Neighbor won't eat meat unless it's been locally harvested (shot.....like antelope, deer). I eat what I want, and have a complete blood chemistry done about once a year. So far, so good.

Regarding plant culture, the best balance I've found is using chemicals, salts, to balance out what might be deficient in my organics and parent soil material. For example, I just sent off my friend's "black gold" sample to the TX A&M Soil and Water testing lab for analysis. Nurseries are too expensive. Try your landfill. More than likely they have a composting program and will give away some mighty fine compost, large or small grade. You want the fines for mixing, coarser material for top dressing your pots.

Horse manure is damn close, naturally, to the ratio you should seek as a standard food - 3-1-2.

Back to the old grind for most of you folks, it's Monday of a new year, so rise and shine!

UB
Thanks UB, I'll call the Landfill tomorrow to check if they have some. Pretty sure we get free access since we recycle all yard waste.
I've been trying something a little different on my Well Here Goes Again with an f1 cross Purple Rain that seems to be a hog for nutes. I've been using RiddleMe's 'make it rain' and using Jack's 20-20-20 and sometimes Fish Emulsion too & I added some Morbloom 0-10-10 to the Jack's as flowering began.
I noticed on the label for the Fish Emulsion that the strength for dosages in varied a lot, so that means too high a strength is harder, right? By leeching the soil then feeding as they need moisture I seem to be getting good growth.
So do you think adding organics to Jack's to anticipate deficiencies as worthwhile? I thought chemical fert.'s are absorbed faster, but since the soil is leeched about a week to 10 days apart I'm less scared of a nute burn.
Still trying to learn to read them. It's pretty heavy on the Sativa side. Most of a Sativa cross, I've grown indoors.
Daniels:mrgreen:
 

convict156326

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hey i followed the instructions on the topping here on page 1 lol i did read first. ive topped outdoors but never cut this much off of a plant before. should my stem be hollow? i mean seriously im looking down a good inch INTO the stem. its been around 3 and a half hours since i topped.
 

zizou21

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Yo guys I topped my plants yesterday but I actually cut about half an inch above the second node, so I went back today and cut whatever was sticking out above the 2nd node. Should be ok right? :|
 

Uncle Ben

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......So do you think adding organics to Jack's to anticipate deficiencies as worthwhile? I thought chemical fert.'s are absorbed faster, but since the soil is leeched about a week to 10 days apart I'm less scared of a nute burn.
Still trying to learn to read them. It's pretty heavy on the Sativa side. Most of a Sativa cross, I've grown indoors.
Daniels:mrgreen:
Jack's Classics are pretty complete and designed for soil. Don't really know what deficiencies you speak of. IOW, is "this" a fact or a feeling? :D

Good luck,
UB
 

tucker1

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uncle Ben can youn tell me exactly where to prune for the four colas cause I im a first grow rookie
fisrt off from seeds you get the 2 round leafs then single leafs then 3 fingers leaf now is this what you call the 2nd true node??and top just above that node??
thanks tucker1
 
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