Under A Cabin In The Woods of AK - AUH#2, White Rhino, Carolina, and MTU.

ForcedInduction

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looking good! sorry to hear about the flood, glad your girls made it!

i may be interested in taking on the project,
any left?

btw, when are you starting the autoflower outdoor grow?? i'm really interested in following that.

i just finished reading all 23 pages, and i must say one of the most exciting threads i have read so far on RIU. i love alaska.
 

woodsmantoker

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looking good! sorry to hear about the flood, glad your girls made it!

i may be interested in taking on the project,
any left?

btw, when are you starting the autoflower outdoor grow?? i'm really interested in following that.

i just finished reading all 23 pages, and i must say one of the most exciting threads i have read so far on RIU. i love alaska.

Thanks for the review, I appreciate your kind words friend. Well you had a very good question that I apologize for not having addressed previously for the viewers. I did not start the outdoor project with the auto, due to being on the water this summer I reserved the project for a later date. The season here is short and I wouldn't be able to pull an outdoor run at this point, however I suppose if there is interest I could add a few to the vegg room for an indoor run.

Honestly: I am fed up with the Arjan's. Granted they have seen hell and back, they are a tricky plant to grow. Indoors makes it more difficult, height restrictions make it challenging, and a finicky plant makes them not a good plant to leave behind with your novice wife to be taken cafe of. "no offense hun, you did your best". I am giving these plants time to recover, however if they lag to far behind they will be replaced with White Rhino, Jacks Cleaner, and CAROLINA X MTU (germinating tonight).

So I do have a few seeds left. What I would like to ask of you however, is that you give me a link to your journal for review, or a place that I can review photos of your style of growing. I would like to see each person involved, grow this strain with a seperate method/style/technique from one another. I require that each person document thuroughly and create a photo journal with detailed explination of your techinque. Completion is key, final results must be noted with dry weight and personal review of the smoke, body, and high. The rest is up to you. I have two people committed as of yet. The styles are SCROG, and organic indoor LST. I would like to see a little more diversity in styles for the next three. If your willing, and can meet the cirteria, let us know. I look forward to hearing from you folks~!

P.S. Sweet Tooth - Not a strain I am personally familure with. I have the ability to add this to the garden as clone tonight however. Anyone have a personal review they would like to share???
 

woodsmantoker

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Speaking of excitement!

I was kayaking down the river last night following the bank closely when a bear jumped out into the water to catch a fish. He was about 15 feet off my bow, I rolled over and went under, he slapped the bottom of my kayak as I drifted by. "WOW" that's all I have to say about that....

Been some close calls but that one took some years off!~
 

Boulderheads

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That is pretty amazing my friend!! Alaskan Brown? U don't have grizz up there do ya? That musta been one helluva feeling having that paw slam down on your boat!! Great story for sure!!! Glad u and your vessel made it out safe.
 

ForcedInduction

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Thanks for the review, I appreciate your kind words friend. Well you had a very good question that I apologize for not having addressed previously for the viewers. I did not start the outdoor project with the auto, due to being on the water this summer I reserved the project for a later date. The season here is short and I wouldn't be able to pull an outdoor run at this point, however I suppose if there is interest I could add a few to the vegg room for an indoor run.

Honestly: I am fed up with the Arjan's. Granted they have seen hell and back, they are a tricky plant to grow. Indoors makes it more difficult, height restrictions make it challenging, and a finicky plant makes them not a good plant to leave behind with your novice wife to be taken cafe of. "no offense hun, you did your best". I am giving these plants time to recover, however if they lag to far behind they will be replaced with White Rhino, Jacks Cleaner, and CAROLINA X MTU (germinating tonight).

So I do have a few seeds left. What I would like to ask of you however, is that you give me a link to your journal for review, or a place that I can review photos of your style of growing. I would like to see each person involved, grow this strain with a seperate method/style/technique from one another. I require that each person document thuroughly and create a photo journal with detailed explination of your techinque. Completion is key, final results must be noted with dry weight and personal review of the smoke, body, and high. The rest is up to you. I have two people committed as of yet. The styles are SCROG, and organic indoor LST. I would like to see a little more diversity in styles for the next three. If your willing, and can meet the cirteria, let us know. I look forward to hearing from you folks~!

P.S. Sweet Tooth - Not a strain I am personally familure with. I have the ability to add this to the garden as clone tonight however. Anyone have a personal review they would like to share???
i would definitely be interested in following one of your auto grows, i have always been a fan.
the white rhino sounds good :) i am very interested in its medicinal qualities.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/223281-new-grow-room-250w-400w.html

here is my most recent thread, not really a grow journal.
i've been wanting to start a detailed journal, but i haven't really had a strain worthy yet...
i am pretty flexible on growing styles indoor/outdoor(although it would have to be next spring)
maybe i could just top the plant, and then just let it grow. although its really up to you
i've been using schultz 10-15-10, and bone meal for nutes. in plain old soil of course.
 

woodsmantoker

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That is pretty amazing my friend!! Alaskan Brown? U don't have grizz up there do ya? That musta been one helluva feeling having that paw slam down on your boat!! Great story for sure!!! Glad u and your vessel made it out safe.

Brown Bear


Brown bears
(Ursus arctos), also known as grizzlies, occur throughout Alaska except on islands south of Frederick Sound in southeast Alaska, west of Unimak in the Aleutian Chain, and Bering Sea islands. They also occur in Russia, northern China, northern Japan, Europe, western Canada, and in limited portions of the northwestern United States. Brown bears symbolize Alaska as depicted on the back of the state quarter and on the state flag (Ursa Major – The Big Dipper). They are also important to Native Alaskans, local residents, hunters, fishers, photographers, and hikers.​
General description: Brown and grizzly bears are classified as the same species even though there are notable differences between them. Kodiak bears (brown bears from the Kodiak Archipelago) are classified as a distinct subspecies (U. a. middendorffi) from those on the mainland (U. a. horribilis) because they have been isolated from other bears since the last ice age about 12,000 years ago. “Brown bears” typically live along the southern coast of the state where they have access to seasonally abundant spawning salmon. The coastal areas also provide a rich array of vegetation they can use as food as well as a milder climate. This allows them to grow larger and live in higher densities than their “grizzly” cousins in the northern and interior parts of the state. To minimize confusion, this report uses the term “brown bear” to refer to all members of Ursus arctos.
The brown bear resembles its close relatives the black bear (U. americanus) and the polar bear (U. maritimus). Brown bears are usually larger than black bears, have a more prominent shoulder hump, less prominent ears, and longer, straighter claws. Polar bears are similar in size to coastal brown bears, but are more streamlined, lacking the hump. The varying shapes of these bears are adaptations to their particular life styles. Long claws are useful in digging roots or excavating small mammals, but are not efficient for climbing trees. The musculature and bone structure of the hump are adaptations for digging and for attaining bursts of speed necessary for capture of moose or caribou. Color is not a reliable key in differentiating these bears because black and brown bears have many color phases and polar bears may have stained fur. For example, black bear fur may be black, brown, reddish or even shades of grey and white, while brown bear colors range from dark brown through very light blond.
Brown bear weights vary by age, gender, location, and time of year. Bears weigh about one pound (0.5 kg) at birth and attain adult size by age 6. Adult males tend to be 30-50% larger than females. A large male may weigh up to 1,500 lbs (680 kg) in coastal areas or up to 500 lbs (227 kg) in interior areas. Bears weigh the least when they emerge from their dens in the spring, and can increase their weight by over 50% during late summer and fall. The largest brown bear ever killed had a skull that was 17.9” (46 cm) and 12.8” wide (33 cm). Such a bear, when standing on its hind feet, would be over 10’ (3.0 m) tall.
Brown bears have an exceptionally acute sense of smell, exceeding that of dogs. Contrary to popular belief, bears are not nearsighted. Their eyesight and hearing are comparable to humans. They can run in short bursts up to 40 mph (64 kph) and are excellent swimmers. By all indications, bears are extremely intelligent and most have individual personalities.
Life history: Cubs are born in the den during January and February. Twins are most common, but litter sizes can range from 1 to 4. When the cubs emerge in June, they may weigh up to 15 lbs (7 kg) and they actively explore their world under the constant supervision of their mothers. Mothers can be furiously protective of cubs, however less than half of the cubs survive. Families typically stay together for 2 or 3 years and after separation female cubs tend to stay near where they were raised while males go farther afield. Most brown bears are sexually mature at 5 years old; however females often do not successfully produce a litter until later. The mating season is in the spring (May to July) and they are serial monogamous (have one mate at a time, but several each year). The oldest brown bear in Alaska was a 39 year old female, while the oldest male was 38.
Bear populations in Alaska are healthy and productive. Densities vary depending on the quality of the environment. In areas of low productivity, such as on Alaska’s North Slope, studies have revealed bear densities as low as one bear per 300 mi2 (777 km2). In areas abundant food, such as the Alaska Peninsula, Kodiak and Admiralty Island, densities as high as one bear per square mile (2.6 km2) have been found. In central Alaska, both north and south of the Alaska Range, bear densities tend to be intermediate, about one bear per 15-25 mi2 (39-65 km2). These figures do not mean that each bear has this much territory for its exclusive use. The area occupied by any individual bear overlaps those used by many other bears.
Foods: Brown bears are very adaptable and like humans, they consume a wide variety of foods. Common foods include salmon, berries, grasses, sedges, cow parsnip, ground squirrels, carrion, and roots. In many parts of Alaska, brown bears are capable predators of moose and caribou, especially newborns. Bears may also be attracted to human camps and homes by improperly stored food and garbage as well as domestic animals.
Although generally solitary in nature, brown bears often occur in large groups in concentrated feeding areas such as salmon spawning streams, sedge flats, open garbage dumps or on whale carcasses. Because of this, they have developed a complex language and social structure to express their feelings and minimize serious fights These feeding concentration areas also provide opportunities for people to watch bears.
Winter dormancy: In the winter when food is unavailable or scarce, most brown bears enter dens and sleep through the winter. Although this is not true hibernation, their body temperatures, heart rate, and other metabolic rates are drastically reduced. While in the den they do not eat, drink, urinate or defecate. Pregnant females are usually the first to enter dens in the fall. These females, with their newborn cubs, are the last to exit dens. Adult males, on the other hand, enter dens later and emerge earlier than most other bears. In northern areas, bears may spend up to 8 months in dens, while in areas with relatively mild winters, such as Kodiak, some male bears stay active all winter.
Safety: Brown bears and people can co-exist as long as we treat bears with respect and learn as much as possible about their needs and behavior. Basic bear safety rules include: never approach a bear; only observe them from a safe distance; avoid surprising bears; do not run from bears; and, stay away from animal carcasses that have been claimed by bears. In bear country, campers can minimize conflicts with bears if they reduce food odors, secure food and garbage so bears cannot get it, use electric fences, and avoid camping on bear travel routes.
Management: Bear hunting is an important traditional and economic aspect of life in Alaska and with proper management can occur without jeopardizing populations. In most coastal areas brown bear hunting regulations are designed to maintain high bear densities and provide hunters with opportunities to pursue large bears. In many other parts of the state, bear hunting regulations are less stringent as managers strive to balance the numbers of bears with number of moose and caribou available for human hunters.
Bear viewing is another popular activity in Alaska and although it is often considered “non-consumptive”, it can have serious impacts on bear populations if it is not conducted properly. Most viewing occurs at places where bears congregate at concentrated food sources that are critical to their survival. If some bears avoid these areas because people are there, those bears may not get the fat and protein they need to make it through the upcoming winter. Managing human behavior around such areas is as important to the continued health of the bear population as is managing bear hunting.
Research and conservation: Alaska has over 98 percent of the United States population of brown bears, and more than 70 percent of the North American population, so it has a special responsibility to this magnificent animal. The Alaska Department of Fish and Game is responsible for managing bears in the state and for ensuring that management is based on the best scientific knowledge possible. Important aspects of this effort include maintaining healthy populations of bears throughout Alaska, conserving bear habitat, preventing overharvest, and conducting studies necessary to understand population requirements and how bears and people can co-exist. As Alaska continues to develop, it is critical that everyone recognize their role as stewards of this important resource and strive to safely share our great state with them.
 

woodsmantoker

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So we had baked Rainbow trout with wild berry sauce for dinner; invited a friend over to our cabin for dinner and he brought dessert. "Ice Cream Cake" made with the infamous ICE CREAM from paradise seeds. MMmmm lemme tell ya!:mrgreen::weed:

 

woodsmantoker

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Nute issues are clearly still a problem, however there is new growth and still the promise of recovery. I would like to add that for the sake of the journal, and the proof of possibility, I will continue to try and pull off a complete recovery and finish. Under normal circumstances I would have long ago scrapped the Arjans's Haze as it has taken the worst of the problems, and replaced it with the younger healthy plants.

What I would like to note is that if these problems continue to hinder the amount of medication I produce, I will need to revert my efforts to other projects. I would also like to ask who of the viewers is truly interested in seeing the recovery vs. change of strain. I would not scrap the genetics of course, more or less I would take large clones, continue to vegg them until healthy, replace them for the time being, and try scrogging them at a later date.

On another note: The Jacks Cleaner came from a friend who apparently does not believe in labeling clones. Thus, I have a CHUCK clone, not a Jacks Cleaner. My buddy is aware of the mistake and is correcting the problem however, this plant is extremely healthy and growing in leaps and bounds surpassing growth rates of all the others. I also know that this plant is a producer, and could make up for previous losses. Maybe this would be an ironic coincidence that could be a suitable "stand in" for the Arjans...?

How bout a bit of input from my beloved rollitupers?

P.S. Carolina X MTU germinating!
 

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Boulderheads

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I would take the clones.. and if you have the room continue the recovery effort until clones take root? That way it will give you another 10 days or so to make a final decision whether to ditch them or keep the recovery effort in process. If there were someone else working through their first or 2nd grow I would say to continue the recovery, but you have many different options to choose from...especially that CHUCK...looking super healthy!!

I would not oppose a strain switch especially if clones will be taken.. Sounds like you are a person that rides the waves rather than try to swim against them.. I say go with your instincts bro.. your a man of the wilderness and you have better first instincts than most of us humans..I feel most people would spend 2-3 weeks trying to bring these babies around (they look pretty dismal...I have seen much worse, but it would prob be easier to take the healthiest cuttings you can and give them a fresh start).

Best of luck for whatever option you choose!
 

woodsmantoker

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So I was exploring new country for good hunting grounds. As for this season, I am sporting as opposed to what I will be doing during the winter season (subsistence). I have decided to take the traditional white tail hunting approach this season by detailing where the moose are funneling through an area, and then choosing a prime location for a tree stand.

Now this approach does not work well in most parts of Alaska, and in my neck of the woods its not even heard of. I figure most people are intelligent enough not to sit still in one place during the peak of biting insect season. I however view the above challenges as "exciting" and "sporting". I have added a few more personal challenges to the event as well. Such as having chosen a location that is accessible by kayak only (technically speaking you could walk in but it would take you days). I have picked a tree that is about 2 feet off the river bank and the view from there is about 600 yards in all directions. This is also a valley between two mountains that spans only that distance. There is a river that flows through the bottom and is broken up into several streams. An abundance of food for all game species and berries that keep you plucking them all day as you hunt. I can lean out over the rail of the tree stand and drop a line down to catch rainbow trout and white fish while I wait. The down fall to all of this wonderful is that challenge I was talking about...Getting the meat out. This means I will need to set up camp at the location of the kill and hoist the meat up into trees while guarding it from predator's and scavengers. Once the meat is secure, I can start floating it out piece by piece to a second location that is accessible by motor boat. Once the meat is all out of the "kayak zone" I will load it up into a skiff and take it the rest of the way back to our cabin. This will all take place in the same location that I was slapped by the fishing bear. "Hope it was a good game slap on the ass and not a im gunna getcha bitch slap".

The first day I visited the location, I found a shed moose antler in the creek bed. Last night when I returned to the location, I found another one nearly the same size but from another moose (Both are from the same side of the skull and thus not from the same moose). The antlers are of younger bulls but those bulls this year could have grown significantly with a good diet. As well, this area is a funnel which means animals use it as a passage from one place to another. The chance of seeing the same animal may be small but the chances of seeing several moose is outstanding!

Woodsman :blsmoke:
 

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woodsmantoker

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I would take the clones.. and if you have the room continue the recovery effort until clones take root? That way it will give you another 10 days or so to make a final decision whether to ditch them or keep the recovery effort in process. If there were someone else working through their first or 2nd grow I would say to continue the recovery, but you have many different options to choose from...especially that CHUCK...looking super healthy!!

I would not oppose a strain switch especially if clones will be taken.. Sounds like you are a person that rides the waves rather than try to swim against them.. I say go with your instincts bro.. your a man of the wilderness and you have better first instincts than most of us humans..I feel most people would spend 2-3 weeks trying to bring these babies around (they look pretty dismal...I have seen much worse, but it would prob be easier to take the healthiest cuttings you can and give them a fresh start).

Best of luck for whatever option you choose!
What about scrapping the entire root systems and turning the whole plant into a clone.... Maybe change methods from organic soil to coco or aero or DWG and see what works best before comming back to the scrog....?
 
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