Under what individual authority does government exist?

Rob Roy · May 13, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
Get a new talking point, that one's already been crushed in this thread multiple times. It's telling you would think it's unusual that there are rich people that exist that would fight for a living wage or worker's rights and the poor and middle class

So has your other assumption that I believe everyone's wages should be equal, from the minimum wage employee to the CEO. 25 x's the average worker's income is acceptable, 325+ x's isn't, especially when it comes from the workers unpaid labor, and that's not just me talking;

It's weird, all you guys seem to be saying the same thing but none of you are supporting it with evidence or real, hard data. Figures and things we can check and verify and find out for ourselves, like I have been.. I thought this was the "hard science" crowd.. What happened with that?

Do you believe you should have the right to make agreements with people based on what you and the other person both agree to ?

UncleBuck · May 13, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Bernie Sanders gains support by promoting class war fare.

i guess it's only class warfare when the people getting screwed decide they are tired of getting screwed.

the rest of your rant read like something an unhinged racial separatist with a tiny penis would compose, no need to rehash all of that.

UncleBuck · May 13, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Do you believe you should have the right to make agreements with people based on what you and the other person both agree to ?

do you believe you should have the right to walk places while wearing shoes based on your shoes covering your feet while you walk to a place?

Padawanbater2 · May 13, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Do you believe you should have the right to make agreements with people based on what you and the other person both agree to ?

Of course

When did workers agree to give their surplus labor to their employer for free?

skunkd0c · May 13, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Do you believe you should have the right to make agreements with people based on what you and the other person both agree to ?

there has to be a cut off point rob ?

UB and Alcoholiconflict could both mutually agree to mutilate each others genitals, although many here would call this scenario "self harm"

UB&AC decide to go steps further and simultaneously kill each other .... what a tragedy that would be, surely the law has to step in at some point
to prevent weirdos like UB&AC from harming themselves and each other ?

UncleBuck · May 13, 2015

skunkd0c said:
there has to be a cut off point rob ?

UB and Alcoholiconflict could both mutually agree to mutilate each others genitals, although many here would call this scenario "self harm"

UB&AC decide to go steps further and simultaneously kill each other .... what a tragedy that would be, surely the law has to step in at some point
to prevent weirdos like UB&AC from harming themselves and each other ?

cool scenario.

wht about the scenario where rob roy pays children for sex?

skunkd0c · May 13, 2015

UncleBuck said:
cool scenario.

wht about the scenario where rob roy pays children for sex?

anyone paying children for sex is a bad person even if the children are white and the person paying is black

Rob Roy · May 14, 2015

skunkd0c said:
there has to be a cut off point rob ?

UB and Alcoholiconflict could both mutually agree to mutilate each others genitals, although many here would call this scenario "self harm"

UB&AC decide to go steps further and simultaneously kill each other .... what a tragedy that would be, surely the law has to step in at some point
to prevent weirdos like UB&AC from harming themselves and each other ?

Well, I certainly hope they don't do that and I can see your point that a hands off approach from a third party intervention does allow for some stuff to go on that many (most) people may disagree with.

The flip side though is there is already stuff that goes on like that on a grander scale and they build statues in parks to honor the participants, call them heroes even....it's called war.

Rob Roy · May 14, 2015

UncleBuck said:
cool scenario.

wht about the scenario where rob roy pays children for sex?

Now that's an interesting tactic you've taken trolling turd meister.... you've gone from bold erroneous alluding to, to outright fibbing.

Even for you that's a new low. I liked it more when your allegations were more subtle.

londonfog · May 14, 2015

@Rob Roy did you accept the giving of a social security number for your boys ?

Rob Roy · May 14, 2015

londonfog said:
@Rob Roy did you accept the giving of a social security number for your boys ?

Not really. Also, if a person does that, but then many years later realizes it was a mistake, what recourse should they have?

Also, when you say "give" in the context you used it in, it sort of denigrates the meaning of the word give. It would be better in that context to use the word "assigned".

londonfog · May 14, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Not really. Also, if a person does that, but then many years later realizes it was a mistake, what recourse should they have?

Also, when you say "give" in the context you used it in, it sort of denigrates the meaning of the word give. It would be better in that context to use the word "assigned".

you accepted your children receiving a social security number . You could have simply said no and left that section on the application for birth certificate blank. Why did allow your sons a social security number ?

Rob Roy · May 14, 2015

londonfog said:
you accepted your children receiving a social security number . You could have simply said no and left that section on the application for birth certificate blank. Why did allow your sons a social security number ?

I did? That's interesting.

londonfog · May 14, 2015

Rob Roy said:
I did? That's interesting.

you did. You know it and so did I. You gave your sons a social security number. You signed your boys up with the government that you so hate.

Rob Roy · May 14, 2015

londonfog said:
you did. You know it and so did I. You gave your sons a social security number. You signed your boys up with the government that you so hate.

I did not give my sons a social security number. Aren't those numbers assigned by some type of numeric tracking system thought up by a government bureaucrat.

Also, if a person thought at one time, that what occurs as normal is acceptable, but then years later upon deeper questioning and examination formed a different opinion based on introspection and critical thinking rather than blind obedience would you consider that a good thing?

Or should a person remain locked into the spoon fed mindset somebody has laid out for them?

londonfog · May 14, 2015

Rob Roy said:
I did not give my sons a social security number. Aren't those numbers assigned by some type of numeric tracking system thought up by a government bureaucrat.

Also, if a person thought at one time, that what occurs as normal is acceptable, but then years later upon deeper questioning and examination formed a different opinion based on introspection and critical thinking rather than blind obedience would you consider that a good thing?

Or should a person remain locked into the spoon fed mindset somebody has laid out for them?

Giving your child a social security number is voluntary. You don't have to do so. You could have left the section blank and denied your children receiving a ss#.
Now the question again is why did you allow your sons to receive a social security number ?

Rob Roy · May 14, 2015

londonfog said:
Giving your child a social security number is voluntary. You don't have to do so. You could have left the section blank and denied your children receiving a ss#.
Now the question again is why did you allow your sons to receive a social security number ?

I don't remember doing any of that. Maybe I did though. I'm guessing if it happened, their mother was involved. You're also pursuing something, but I'm not sure what your point is....perhaps you could reveal it?

Hypothetically speaking how would a parents signing a child up, then commit the child for life? Isn't there any opportunity for them to reject this? How can anybody speak for another and by that act commit that person to something for life?

londonfog · May 14, 2015

Rob Roy said:
I don't remember doing any of that. Maybe I did though. I'm guessing if it happened, their mother was involved. You're also pursuing something, but I'm not sure what your point is....perhaps you could reveal it?

Hypothetically speaking how would a parents signing a child up, then commit the child for life? Isn't there any opportunity for them to reject this? How can anybody speak for another and by that act commit that person to something for life?

You started a thread with the titled " Under what individual authority does government exist ". Well I would say you gave some authority when you signed up for a social security number for your child. The same as your parent did for you. I'm sure you have used you social security number whether you admit it or not.

UncleBuck · May 14, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Now that's an interesting tactic you've taken trolling turd meister.... you've gone from bold erroneous alluding to, to outright fibbing.

Even for you that's a new low. I liked it more when your allegations were more subtle.

i'm not lying, you talk constantly about how paying children for sex is consensual and voluntary, spaMBLA.

Rob Roy · May 15, 2015

londonfog said:
You started a thread with the titled " Under what individual authority does government exist ". Well I would say you gave some authority when you signed up for a social security number for your child. The same as your parent did for you. I'm sure you have used you social security number whether you admit it or not.

So if your parents sold you into slavery, knowingly or unknowingly you should be a slave the rest of your life?

Under what individual authority does government exist?

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