Olive Drab Green
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I wouldn't concern myself with the logic or opinion of a rat. Both are as worthless as the rat they belong to.
Universal Basic Income; 'bout time or batshit crazy?
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Lucky Luke
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Funnily enough i was mountain bike riding this morning with a mate and we found some nice deep old mine shafts that would be great for rat's. He spent a few years away due to a rat
That varies by state and by the area within the state.
Mc Donald's starts at up to $12/hr in my area. An hour away that same job, starting pay, can be as high as $15/hr.
There are people all over this country living on minimum wage and surviving.
Lucky Luke
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Is the big mac more expensive at the place that pays $15?
Lucky Luke
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anyway..lol..so what do you believe is the min to live on?
No, the cost of living is though. Rent mainly.
Where, exactly?
Lucky Luke
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so maybe split the difference and say $13.50 as a country avg?
SneekyNinja
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I think I read that the absolute minimum nationwide required for basic survival is $11.75.
In some places you need more but that's the absolute lowest it can go.
Lucky Luke
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So start at 13.50 and adjust as cost of living rises retrospectively?
But i was really after FDs thoughts as he is the one who thinks people dont deserve a livable wage.
esh dov ets
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/02/09/opinion/minimum-wage.html
http://www.moneycrashers.com/living-on-minimum-wage-possible/
https://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2015/05/19/report-minimum-wage-in-u-s-cities-not-enough-to-afford-rent/
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/you-cant-rent-a-one-bedroom-apartment-anywhere-in-america-on-a-minimum-wage-job/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/01/minimum-wage-apartment-hourly-salary-housing-costs_n_7472472.html
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ttystikk
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The idea that paying a less than livable wage is in any way acceptable speaks volumes about the moral decay of our society.
You keep putting words into my mouth.
If you aren't happy with your wages do something about it. Everyone else does.
esh dov ets
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show your math
Define "livable wage".
SneekyNinja
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No offense, but if you work tills at McDonald's...are you expecting to live and have some kind of lifestyle off that alone?
I'd rather we paid UBI and then low paid work like that would be worthwhile rather than trying to skew the employment market.
Lucky Luke
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It was a question....
I cannot charge more. I charge as much as the market will allow at the moment, more than anyone else in my area.
Can you not give me a figure?
SneekyNinja
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I said I read it, and that figure was in the absolute cheapest place to live in the US.
Probably Buttfuck, Alabama or something.
ttystikk
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Yep, American minimum wage is Bernie that needed to live on.
What points were you making with these, so I'm not missing anything?