unrefined sugar

zambonic

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I have read on some posts that some of you use mollasses. has anyone heard of using unrefined sugar? If so, should I use it during veg stage or wait till flowering? Also has anyone grown lasqueti haze from BC Depot? Iam in my second week of veg stage and so far plants seem to be real healty.
 

battosai

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ive heard just the first few or last few weeks of flowering. the grow faq has the information.. i think under increasing yields
 

videoman40

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Hey dude, the less refined it is the better it is, but it is not as good as molasses is, imo. Molasses is cheap & it works great.
Peace
I have read on some posts that some of you use mollasses. has anyone heard of using unrefined sugar? If so, should I use it during veg stage or wait till flowering?
 

northerntights

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what your thinking of is sucanat, but yeh molasses is better, a lot more concentrated with all that caramel goodness, and CHEAP!
 

videoman40

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No, I wasnt thinking of sucanat at all, I was answering his question. I know that there was an artice a while back in high times about sucanat. I also know my herb comes out tasting great using Molasses, but that has to do with the Nitrogen becoming more leachable before harvest as the NO3 converts into NH2.
Peace
 

000420

terpenophenolic
Is there something i can do wrong just going out anf buying brown sugar if molasses isnt available?
Most brown sugar is refined sugar that has had molasses added to it(pretty stupid...lol), You want to use Turbinado sugar in place of mollases, this is completely unrefined and it's brown because it naturally has molasses in it, up to %15.Use this as a substitute for molasses if needed....this stuff works great......:joint:
 

000420

terpenophenolic
How much sugar do you add per gallon?
Same as molasses, 1-2 Table spoons per gallon of water, 1-2 times per week.There is some differences on when people use the sugar/molasses, some people like to use it the last 6 weeks of flowering, I prefer to use it week 3 to week 7 of flowering, depending on the strain......:joint:
 

000420

terpenophenolic
you could start now, but you can wait untill week 2 if you want and give it to them untill week 8.Starting now is a little early, it won't hurt them at all, it just may not be as beneficial.
 

000420

terpenophenolic
arent there nutrients in it that help it grow?
Yes there are plenty of Nutes in Molasses and in Turbinado, both are great.But pure molasses Has a higher nutrient content with some extra goodies, like the fact that Molasses is a natural chelating agent, but Turbinado gives equal results.Molasses gives better flavor to your buds.....:joint: :mrgreen:
 

gardenandcats

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In tests, cane sugar has been proven to harm growth.

It's that simple.

You can do an easy "Google" on "Sugar Plant Growth" and in the results, you'll find several tests that have been done In tests, cane sugar has been proven to harm growth.
 

000420

terpenophenolic
In tests, cane sugar has been proven to harm growth.

It's that simple.

You can do an easy "Google" on "Sugar Plant Growth" and in the results, you'll find several tests that have been done In tests, cane sugar has been proven to harm growth.

unsulphered Molasses(the kind for gardening like grandmas) is just evaporated cane juice/sugar, so That theory is wrong, also gardeners have been using turbinado for many years and it helps growth not harm it.

Maby your thinking of refined cane sugar?
 

000420

terpenophenolic
I did your google search and found this firts thing......

Groundbreaking Research Shows Sugar to Trigger Growth

Science, a leading international research journal, reports today that a team of scientists, including Clemson University plant biochemist Brandon Moore, has found sugars not only serve as fuel for plants but also as signal compounds to genes critical to cell development and plant growth.

The research is considered to be groundbreaking, providing insights into the fundamental importance sugars play in both plants and animals. Scientists predict the findings will lead to new research on the role sugars have in human development and disorders, such as diabetes and obesity. For now, the research findings are expected to have more impact on agriculture, identifying new ways to improve crop yields.

"In plants, sugars are produced by photosynthesis. The sugars are then used to support all aspects of plant growth and development," said Moore. "Our evidence proves that glucose functions in plants not only as a nutrient, but also as a signal compound that affects the expression of many different genes involved in most vital processes. These include genes that code for proteins related to seed germination, root, shoot, and leaf growth, flowering and aging. The regulation of gene expression by glucose and other sugars indicates that these nutritional molecules act also as hormones."

The long-term goal of Moore’s research is to understand sugar sensing mechanisms.

"By examining the function of sugar sensors, identifying the components of the signal processes and determining the gene targets of sugar signaling, we can use our understanding of sugar control processes to manipulate specific targets related to crop yield," said Moore.

Moore and his colleagues are working with a model species, Arabidopsis, a mustard plant growing in northern temperate climates worldwide. It is a plant whose genome has been completely sequenced. Knowing all of the genes present in an organism is a valuable tool for identifying all of the proteins that control a specific process.

"Many components and targets of glucose signaling are conserved among plants and animals. The recognition of the hormone function of glucose will influence the thinking of scientists and society about our understanding of the metabolic control of gene expression and our approach to solving some types of diabetes and related disorders in glucose metabolism," said Moore.

Moore, 49, joined the Clemson faculty in Fall 2001, coming from Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. He earned his doctorate from Washington State University at Pullman, Wash.
 

videoman40

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WoW 000420, nice find! I think the word "sugar" confuses some people, and they immediately think table sugar. The "3 little birds" a well known group from overgrow did alot ofresearch into this, which you can read here, the 3 little birds knew there shit, or shall we say they knew there molasses.

Table sugar is nothing but sugar - CHO's.
Molasses is a less processed form of sugar from sugar beets that is high in vitamins and minerals as well as sugar (CHO's).
The more a food is processed, the less nutritious it is.

Molasses deters pests
Molasses deters fungal diseases
Molasses provides B vitamins
Molasses provides Fe, S, Ca, and K
Molasses catalyzes a compost pile

Table sugar does none of that. Table sugar and blackstrap molasses are
no-where near the same thing, nor do they provide the same nutrition. Table sugar will provide the microbes with carbohydrate but they need a lot more than that.
Peace
 

primeralives

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hey video... i have a bubbleponic system, i just started flowering yesterday, when should i start feeding them molaesess, and how much??
 

videoman40

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Geez dude, I'm a dirtbag, I dont know much at all about hydro, I'd check with someone more knowledgeable about hydro first, before adding molasses.
To be honest, I had to track down this very answer for somebody else here recently, and I hate to sound old, or like I am burned out......but I honestly can't remember what the outcome was.
I'll look, and if I find it, I'll post it for ya.
Peace
 
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