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Swamp cooler. Hoping its the solution. 60w. Glad I discovered them thats a load off my back. Everything should be good. I cant find a max hold feature easily only to wonder how accurate it is. If it never blew the circuit after using it all this time I bet its only like 800w startup. The dehueys that is.

I have a lead for the other one thats fine I guess. Thats best and should only have that one. So thats 1000w continuous in the room. I been through this before I just asked for too much and didnt even need to.

I had a cord out the room for a while now and was just asking for one more. I underestimated. Well all is good here.

medidedicated said:

Swamp cooler. Hoping its the solution. 60w. Glad I discovered them thats a load off my back. Everything should be good. I cant find a max hold feature easily only to wonder how accurate it is. If it never blew the circuit after using it all this time I bet its only like 800w startup. The dehueys that is.

I have a lead for the other one thats fine I guess. Thats best and should only have that one. So thats 1000w continuous in the room. I been through this before I just asked for too much and didnt even need to.

I had a cord out the room for a while now and was just asking for one more. I underestimated. Well all is good here.

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A swamp cooler will only help if you're exchanging air in the room.

Remember, plants ARE swamp coolers to a great extent.

Crap I didnt read anything about that till now. Even then it just says to have a window cracked open. I have a fan mounted to a duct flange taped shut into a panel into the window blpwing air in, maybe thats good enough?

Well I guess plants may be swamp coolers but not like I need, it will be 90-95F in the room. I just need something to keep bringing temps from 85F to 75F. It creeps through out the day and drops at night.

So just opening door and blowing air in with a pedestal fan works but I want to be able to close door. It ls rated for 300sq ft and this is 100sq ft so I still have hopes it will work.

I could always just get one big dehuey for its own lead that no ones using. I worry the sides of room will get humid and only dey in center of room. I opted for a google suggestion to use two dehueys places strategicly maybe with pedestal fan can achieve what I indeed have.

Its freakin perfect. Its just either my dehuey only uses 800w to start compressor or need to only use one. My fuse blows alright, so if it didnt then I should be good. Lets hope swamp cooler works but reviews look good, per google it can lower temps 10-40F 300sq ft.

27-37rh all tents.

The ai has been helpful they have it on amazon too. Amazon has two versions, one clearly is better and the other called rufus. I call it doofus because it just usually isnt very helpful.

Yea see it says plants wont cool like a swamp cooler will so shoot what am I missing.. Idk how it works, I know dehueys but just found these yesterday still learning. I dont quite get the cross ventilation need but I have a window and door with two 6” holes in it and a window perpendicular to center of that cross ventilation.

So I got high hopes still.

Ok its getting better Im realizing dehueys not long ago per search they can only get rh so low. No matter how big it is which explains why my obnoxious double dehuey is only so good. The lowest it hits is 26rh but 37rh when plants are thowing off peak humidity.

I dont have a monitor for it I just have advantage of perpetual lighting. I can see how a pheno acts all day and night like for ex I notice this run its peaking right before lights out. Usually its right when lights turn off like many other people report.

Anyway it reaches equalibrium even though I have two 3k sq ft dehueys. Why cant it get to 26 rh at specific times a day? Anyway kinda got myself in trouble as you can read, just had a backup dehuey and plugged it in.

Its ok though I trust this brand and decision to down size to 150w 1500sq ft dehueys. Still run a lead but should be 400 surge watts roughly if going by the idea of multiplying it by 3x to safely guestimate surge.

Then my grow will be beyond safe and use much much less watts. Its less than half of current watts for dehumidification. I hope Im on to something here I feel like Im entering my prime as a grower 3 yrs. No rootzone bugs no mold particularly pm which some say is a end sentance. Woohoo!

A swamp cooler just swaps sensible heat, what a thermometer measures, for latent heat, which is the total heat value of the air including both the temperature and the relative humidity level. If your plants are growing and transpiring properly, they will provide all the necessary RH and then some. Then you'll need to get rid of the excess or the plants will not be able to transpire moisture properly, adversely affecting their growth. See "VPD" or Vapor Pressure Differential for more.

I'm a degreed HVAC professional and indoor cultivation environmental control specialist; you're working your way through every expensive mistake in the book and I'm inviting you to skip a few chapters in the school of hard knocks.

You need a self contained dehumidifier for the dark cycle and a chiller with an air handler during the day. These will get you where you need to go in terms of indoor climate. A swamp cooler will not.

Idk what chiller with air handler is, a refrigerant ac unit with the duct to window? I dont get it, I blow cold air into room from outside to bring air temps down. That doesnt remove latent heat unless I dehumidify it.

Honestly idk we will see how it goes, theres no harm in testing it. Its already on its way. I thought to keep ac just in case but really if it brings air temps down thats fine.

Im trying to understand and not be arogant. If you dont mind explaining more Im all ears and sometimes have to come back to stuff. But if it works thats all Im looking for here.

I had 3 different hvac guys say 3 different things when I was exausting outside and eventually the top technician said that was our problem.

If Im gonna be frank this is more for my comfort than the plants. If the hygrometers in tents read 85 or lower Im fine with that. I beat up my plants with box fans and low rh to beat mold. They turn out ok in the end so far.

Swamp coolers are evaporative coolers. It's a big humidifier that will be fighting the dehumidifier.

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A swamp cooler just swaps sensible heat, what a thermometer measures, for latent heat, which is the total heat value of the air including both the temperature and the relative humidity level. If your plants are growing and transpiring properly, they will provide all the necessary RH and then some. Then you'll need to get rid of the excess or the plants will not be able to transpire moisture properly, adversely affecting their growth. See "VPD" or Vapor Pressure Differential for more.

I'm a degreed HVAC professional and indoor cultivation environmental control specialist; you're working your way through every expensive mistake in the book and I'm inviting you to skip a few chapters in the school of hard knocks.

You need a self contained dehumidifier for the dark cycle and a chiller with an air handler during the day. These will get you where you need to go in terms of indoor climate. A swamp cooler will not.

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Whats the advantage of a chiller and air handler vs mini-split, efficiency?

Yea Im just not understanding but Im getting the point now. I still have my ac unit and I can use it I just need to downsize my dehueys but if I dont know surge watts I may be limited to one. A 152w dehuey what should surge watts be, 456w?

My current dehueys same line just 35 pint vs 22 is 380w they say it can be 1000 or 1200 but that would blow the circuit. So maybe the 152w isnt 456w and two of them can be same circuit but thats just thinking out loud idk but can always play it safe or deal with the heat.

So far I havent wasted nothing. I wasted 2500 and so far I can return everything. This isnt a easy task, 3 different hvac guys had different opinions some not even any answers.

If my 380w dehuey is like 800w surge then the 152w line might not be 456w surge. I keep remembering the hvac incident as bad but its only when its summer. I just doubt it will work unless all tents connected to duct flange panel to vent outside.

I may suffer and so may my plants, wont be easy but nothing worth having is. Plant seeds till they plant me! Il figure it out.

When one side turns off for filter clean it spikes. Id take pic of grow room but its basically 3 sections, couple tents, my bed and couple more tents. The dehueys sit next to tents between them. Im a fool for listening to ai but its still useful just look into it more sometimes depends on what.

But it was right, two small dehueys or one big one in a cluttery room can help. It works so good I might deal with 90F temps. Problem is I got two big ones one on own circuit but can barely have one maybe not even, in grow room.

Notably the version of dehuey I use one is updated to exaust down and to the side. This feeds it straight into intake of tents vs towards ceiling of middle of room. Shit what to do what to do.

I mean, it could still work, Id be screwing around if I didnt at least unbox and test and return. Its a 300sq ft device for 100sq ft. This kinda funny actually because yea some recommend an actual ac for this. The other day though I told a OP of their thread it may head that way in a similar size room.

Then a few people were just idk I guess not believing my situation. The situation re itterate.. Its temp control 76F booster fan on duct flange with window sealed around it. Blows air in in winter every 5 mins for a couple minutes to bring from 78F to 76F.

Thats just how I got it to work its a bit sporatic and cant figure out the manual and operating screen. I could but whatever, Im happy. Two mars hydro fce150 and vipar ks1000 on then turn off while 3 fce150’s turn on overnight.

The ks3000 never above 75% the fce’s are on max or could go to 50% ive done before. The vipar 50% I done before whole grow.

Youd think dehueys heat up space and while they can, Ive observed them almost freeze to death due to no lights on overnight. Hvac heat was blocked off.

Anywho over summer the ac on 24/7 almost which covers my grow in hvac. Spring and fall its 75F outside, my grow is needing 76F but goes to 86F gradually and can be as high as 90F before lights out. I havent grown overnight during spring and fall so lets see how this inferno blazes up.

I and the plants can survive it I mean come on, how often is it 90F in indoor and outdoor grows. Its when it passes that that its a issue. My flower rosin might suffer but hey its my own weed not the store.

So here it goes being recommended to me in a 100sq ft room. An ac unit. Meant for like 450 sq ft. It just needs a little assistance staying at temp 85F below 90F and opening windows cross ventilate or just force it outside like I did. Still options. I just dont got no fan for the job need like a inline fan.

My booster cant fit on flange to blow outside but fits flush to vent inside. I can try it. Let me edit that my room will do this with just 1 led light especially on max.