US Attorney: No More Marijuana Raids

alforra

Member
Spin? Come on CrackerJax.. that's bullshit. Let's see our precious weed get legalized under conservative control.. It's like everyone wants Bush/Cheney back. Politicians are facing a cut in pay, THAT'S why Obama is running against the grain. Republicans are doing what they do best, which is trying to scare all of their followers into thinking the way they want them to and shouting it from the rooftops. From Nixon's health care scandals, to Reagan's war on drugs, and Bush's Patriot Act.. Who's really Hitler? Change smells like fear to me people. BTW nute.. if there were a toilet paper line I would already be in it.. I've been laid off from work from one of the biggest machinery manufacturers in the world for about 4 months now. I'm used to making $20/hour and working overtime. Now I bring home half that on unemployment, but I don't blame Obama for my problems. As messed up as this is, it's been a long time coming.. We never learn until we hit rock bottom. Either way, it's hopeless to argue politics.. I'm going back to the growing forums where I belong.
 

NuteGreenwitch

Well-Known Member
I bet people in Canada are just miserable with their terrible socialist government.. providing every citizen with health care and making college cheap.. Damn Commies..
So I'll quote you and place your words above the following information obtained from mainstream American newspapers and popular Canadian medical journals:
57% of Canadians reported waiting 4 weeks or more to see a specialist; 24% of Canadians waited 4 hours or more in the emergency room.


A March 2, 2004 article in the Canadian Medical Association Journal stated, “Saskatchewan is under fire for having the longest waiting time in the country for a diagnostic MRI — a whopping 22 months.”


A February 28, 2006 article in The New York Times quoted Dr. Brian Day as saying, “This is a country in which dogs can get a hip replacement in under a week and in which humans can wait two to three years.”


Canada’s shortage of medical practitioners causes problems. With 2.2 doctors per thousand population, Canada is well below the OECD average of 3.0, although its 10 nurses per thousand was slightly above the OECD average of 8.6. The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) is an international organization of thirty countries that accept the principles of representative democracy and free market economy.


Doctors in Canada make an average of $202,000 a year (2006, before expenses). Alberta has the highest average salary of around $230,000, while Quebec has the lowest average annual salary at $165,000, creating inter-provincial competition for doctors and contributing to local shortages.


In 1991, the Ontario Medical Association agreed to become a province-wide closed shop, making the OMA union a monopoly. Critics argue that this measure has restricted the supply of doctors to guarantee its members’ incomes.


According to a 2007 article, the Canadian medical profession is suffering from a brain drain. The article states, “One in nine trained-in-Canada doctors is practicing medicine in the United States. If Canadian-educated doctors who were born in the U.S. are excluded, the number is one in 12.”


A February 28, 2006 article in The New York Times stated, “Accepting money from patients for operations they would otherwise receive free of charge in a public hospital is technically prohibited in this country, even in cases where patients would wait months or even years before receiving treatment… Canada remains the only industrialized country that outlaws privately financed purchases of core medical services.”


In 2006, a Canadian court threatened to shut down one private clinic because it was planning to start accepting private payments from patients. According to The New York Times, although privately funded clinics are illegal in Canada, many clinics are opening anyway, because patients don’t like the long waiting lists in the government system.


In a 2007 interview on ABC News, Professor Regina Herzlinger of Harvard Business School said, “Many clinics all across Canada are illegal for-profit… They know they can’t get the health care they need from the legal system, so they’re complicit in creating an illegal system that’ll give them what they need.”



And this is just a fragment of data you can peruse about the current Canadian health care system that makes "college cheap". Why worry about how much money your going to spend for higher education when, God forbid, something terrible happens to you or yours and you will spend a fortune going to America (unless the libs fuck the system more) to get the tests and medical attention you'd have to wait weeks, months, or possibly YEARS for in Canada?


Hit up a major search engine for articles and journals about the pros and cons with the Canadian health care system. Research is critical for involving yourself in a debate you obviously know little about.
 

NuteGreenwitch

Well-Known Member
Spin? Come on CrackerJax.. that's bullshit. Let's see our precious weed get legalized under conservative control.. It's like everyone wants Bush/Cheney back.
Again with the quotes...

Actually sir, there were more states during Bush/Cheney's tenure enacting medical marijuana laws. Isn't that something? But the truth is, Bush/Cheney had nothing to do with this. The ugly truth about Obama is, he played into the medical marijuana song and dance routine. His ilk instilled hope in his voters... for votes. So he was voted in, by you (if you voted at all) and all others who were solicited the same. Admit, you were played, so you have the right to be a hater! But the shame in this is that He and His Press Secretary laughed in your face(s).

It's upsetting looking back, but aside from marijuana prohibition, we have our country to worry about now. It's, as Paul Simon would sing "Slip sliding away.... slip sliding away..."!
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Spin? Come on CrackerJax.. that's bullshit. Let's see our precious weed get legalized under conservative control.. It's like everyone wants Bush/Cheney back. Politicians are facing a cut in pay, THAT'S why Obama is running against the grain. Republicans are doing what they do best, which is trying to scare all of their followers into thinking the way they want them to and shouting it from the rooftops. From Nixon's health care scandals, to Reagan's war on drugs, and Bush's Patriot Act.. Who's really Hitler? Change smells like fear to me people. BTW nute.. if there were a toilet paper line I would already be in it.. I've been laid off from work from one of the biggest machinery manufacturers in the world for about 4 months now. I'm used to making $20/hour and working overtime. Now I bring home half that on unemployment, but I don't blame Obama for my problems. As messed up as this is, it's been a long time coming.. We never learn until we hit rock bottom. Either way, it's hopeless to argue politics.. I'm going back to the growing forums where I belong.
First, you don't know a thing about Hitler, so don't compare Bush to him.... unless you want to not be taken seriously.

Second, no one expects the Republicans to legalize marijuana. Their position is quite clear. Obama's new world order administration sure sent all the signals about weed.... so don't be surprised if you feel betrayed.

Even so, if you vote for something as important as the Presidency because of a single issue, you're not much of a citizen anyways.
 

NuteGreenwitch

Well-Known Member
Hear Hear! Marijuana has certainly never been a ploy/decoy used by a Republican candidate in an election for office. The issues of the day affecting our country are what MOST Republicans like to run and debate on. Somehow the libs have mastered the artistry of diversion. Libs are tuned in to the dumbed-down part of society, and rightly so because of the free media and Hollywood agenda pushing. It tears a lib to pieces that Republicans/Conservatives lay claim to ONE mainstream news channel on television that presents a nearly 50/50 stance on political goings-on.

And what really makes me laugh is this dumbed-down part of society will grab a megaphone and scream the mantras of hate and criticism about Palin, but when you ask them what it is they hate about the woman, they can't give one factual piece of information that would deserve this contempt towards her and her family. David Letterman is a prime example of previous sentence. David Letterman has become a very bitter, old man with his resentment for Palin. His latest top ten list regarding Palins new $7 million dollar book deal screams jealousy and his earlier apology to Palin has become moot and he offers absolutely no reprieve. What a shame when such a popular television personality shows their ass in a bad light. But he'll keep his loyal fans, because his show is late in the evening when most working people are turning in for the night. The large majority of working people able to sustain a job based on work ethics and moral standards are working daytime hours. I didn't say ALL hard working people, I said MOST.

Why do libs think the way they do? They don't think... they take orders. Do you know how many Hollywood actors have turned me away from watching anything else they'll be a part of simply because they made utter asses of themselves? Why does Hollywood put themselves out in front of normal American citizens? They still hold this position that, because they make a lot of money and their names are well known for FICTIONAL scripted roles, their words are golden... meant to influence the masses. But if they concentrated more on their ROLES as ACTORS instead of spouting nonsense they know nothing about, their movies and television shows would have so much more substance and make so much more money. They would, perhaps, carry on the Hollywood tradition of people being intrigued by their performances rather than being disgusted by their ignorant, simple rants. But if you're dumbed-down and are too lazy to learn the issues of the day and just want to flip through stations on television or thumb through magazines with pretty pictures, chances are you will be riding on the Elite Bandwagon they expect you to be on, the same wagon so many dumbed-down, lazy Americans are riding on.

My suggestion: break free from ignorance... proclaim your own opinions and don't just inhibit the mindless, drone-like croons of the day - you know, the ones where you don't have to think for yourselves and can adopt-a-stance to convince your egos that you have a CLUE.
 

alforra

Member
Wow. You guys showed me. Yes, I get all my political views from Hollywood.. Canadian Healthcare is garbage, and Sarah Palin is most certainly not a cunt. I'm not an ignorant person and I do think for myself.. One big difference between us: I don't give a fuck about this thread enough to spend an hour working on a response cutting and pasting quotes from magazines. Crackerjax: I would never vote for 1 issue, and to say I don't know a thing about Hitler is to imply that you know me and you know my level of knowledge on the subject.. Fuck both of you.. and yes I just used a mindless insult.. 'cause I'm a drone. I'm sure you'll get the last word! Don't worry!
 

CrackerJax

New Member
To compare Bush to Hitler is to display your ignorance. That's all, it's pretty simple.

Canadian healthcare isn't garbage, but it sure isn't the model to copy either. They are going quite broke. People cannot get a hospital bed. Canadians are now jumping the border in droves to get serious health care.... and pay for it too I might add.

I'm sure it would take you an hour to copy/paste. Some ppl can do things much quicker, however. If you wish to be a lazy poster, that's your choice. That condition slips in nicely with being a progressive liberal.
 

alforra

Member
My last post in this miserable thread..


Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnAUQeHykXY&feature=PlayList&p=30976F41F4BD252A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=32

or maybe this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-sHxr-995o&feature=related

Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.
The 14 characteristics are:

  1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
  2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
  3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
  4. Supremacy of the Military
    Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
  5. Rampant Sexism
    The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
  6. Controlled Mass Media
    Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
  7. Obsession with National Security
    Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
  8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
    Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
  9. Corporate Power is Protected
    The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
  10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
  11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
  12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
  13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
  14. Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
That's nice... fascism... what has that to do with the Bush Administration?

The Obama administration hits far more of those categories. If anything Obama is the agent of change towards a fascist govt.

Govt. coupling to the means of production. That's what they are doing right now.....

Other than a critique on what defines Fascism.... what's ur point?

Did that take you an hour by the way? :lol:
 

NuteGreenwitch

Well-Known Member
I guess alforra cannot come up with facts, so he has to resort to using definitions to define fascism? And what did that just prove... that he's using a word that is well beyond his reach unless he is near a dictionary? Here I am laying out hard data that correlates to the subject at hand and there he is reverting back to Bush's role in protecting this country from an advancement of certain terrorism. He is using the ole' "fascist" word, used so often by charlatans - those "truthers" who came up with the brilliant assumption that Bush and Cheney created 9/11 so that they could advance the "real" conservative agenda. Now I'll throw out a word to act like the neanderthal he and all the other simple minded libs expect me to be... DICK! What a DICK! WHAT A DICK-FACED RESPONSE.

You are right. You should run out of this thread... until you can come back after your studies and present factual information to retort what it is you THINK we're talking about here. Bring facts, not opinions. I mean, opinions are welcome too, but if you cannot substantiate the claims you make with FACTUAL information and just throw careless drivel around without the emotion behind it, then we all know you are just speaking to be heard, stroking what you have left of an ego, talking shit you expect others want to hear. High school has long gone by for me. Are you still there?
 

c5rftw

Well-Known Member
First, you don't know a thing about Hitler, so don't compare Bush to him.... unless you want to not be taken seriously.

Second, no one expects the Republicans to legalize marijuana. Their position is quite clear. Obama's new world order administration sure sent all the signals about weed.... so don't be surprised if you feel betrayed.

Even so, if you vote for something as important as the Presidency because of a single issue, you're not much of a citizen anyways.
Thank you, saved me from typing a lot.
 
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