USA appeals court uphold Sharia law.

Because I live where I do I have been denied service by a Muslim man. Only his wife could wait on me. She did not wear a veil.

So they do discriminate.

cannabineer said:

Oh just throw a burqa over it. Nowt hotter than WASPs in Burqas. cn

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Nowt? That's a tad archaic. LOL

cannabineer said:

So we don't have a judicial approval of Sharia law at all ... merely a refusal by appellate court to discriminatory amendment? How'm I doing? cn

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yeah pretty much. I can understand the muslims point, the law was kind of targeted at them. But at the same time I don't think there is anything wrong with demanding courts "rely on federal and state law when deciding cases." I can only assume that the courts will in fact continue to rely on federal and state laws when deciding cases. Is that not literally what the federal and state laws are used for, and literally what the courts exact job is?

Either way i'm gonna go smoke another joint and eat some potato soup.

Winter Woman said:

Because I live where I do I have been denied service by a Muslim man. Only his wife could wait on me. She did not wear a veil.

So they do discriminate.

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So you base your ideas about Islam on one incident?

We are not talking about the inside of any house of worship. You've changed the boundaries of the conversation.

A good portion of muslim young women do not like it. They want to be modern too. They know it is a personal choice, a choice their fathers have made for them.

Carne Seca said:

Yes we have a rash of crimes involving burka wearing women. Cloak of shame? It's part of their faith. 90% of muslim women around the world are only required to wear a scarf. Are we going to tell the Jewish faith that women are no longer required to cover their heads while in a synagogue? If you actually talk to a Muslim woman (I have on several occasions) you fill find they take pride in wearing a scarf or burka. It's part of their faith. Just as wearing garments are part of the Mormon faith.

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Barry Sotero changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama. Some converts to the Muslim faith do that.

He's already been chosen to be the next President, so if I vote, guess who it will be for?

please we ran a wholesale business in the heart of Detroit. It was WAY more than once.

In the warehouse they didn't want to pay me (a woman) for stock and they didn't want to take change from me either. I could go on...

Carne Seca said:

So you base your ideas about Islam on one incident?

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Total Head said:

i'm pretty sure the difference is that if a christian or jewish person wanted to live strictly according to the old testament, and found that it is not completely compatible with modern american law, they wouldn't get to sue over it. it seems like somehow, because they are muslims, they fall under some sort of special minority category that gets to demand special treatment that other religions would never get.

people can go to church and pray how they want. when it comes to living in society no one gives a shit what religion someone is as long as they follow the same laws as everyone else. if christian extremists can't sell their daughter into slavery here than muslims can't have shariah law. it's the only solution that's even remotely fair.

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I don't see the difference. If it violates state and federal law then it is not allowed. No religious law or faith trumps the constitution. You're making a mountain out of a shit pile.

Carne Seca said:

No. But I am.

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All religions are fucking useless fairy tales for pussies who need to know that there is something after death..

Mindmelted said:

All religions are fucking useless fairy tales for pussies who need to know that there is something after death..

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thanks for sharing.

Winter Woman said:

please we ran a wholesale business in the heart of Detroit. It was WAY more than once.

In the warehouse they didn't want to pay me for stock and they didn't want to take change from me either. I could go on...

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So could I but why bother. People are people. It has nothing to do with faith. The good ol' boys club? Wage discrimination? Hiring and promotion discrimination? But yes, let's keep focusing on the EVIL MUSLIMS.

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yeah pretty much. I can understand the muslims point, the law was kind of targeted at them. But at the same time I don't think there is anything wrong with demanding courts "rely on federal and state law when deciding cases." I can only assume that the courts will in fact continue to rely on federal and state laws when deciding cases. Is that not literally what the federal and state laws are used for, and literally what the courts exact job is?

Either way i'm gonna go smoke another joint and eat some potato soup.

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I'm going to fix me some chili beans and get back to work. Haters are gonna hate. I'm bored with this thread anyway.

Carne Seca said:

So you base your ideas about Islam on one incident?

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Well you base pride on what a woman is willing to say about a religion she's most likely born into. Fact is all religions pretty much paint women as 2nd class humans with Muslims being the experts. Need I mention honor killings If the woman causes 'shame' on her family, yet men aren't held to the same standards.

No Carne please tell me more about Joseph Smith. The Missionaries who came to my door didn't know too much about him.

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lol, so you can stone your naughty children, that is the rules of the bible....

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"Awww MOM ... not Indica AGAIN." ~whine~ cn

cannabineer said:

"Awww MOM ... not Indica AGAIN." ~whine~ cn

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"the bible says a man who lies with another man must be stoned. I dunno about that but it definitely helps"

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No Carne please tell me more about Joseph Smith. The Missionaries who came to my door didn't know too much about him.

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South park has some good info on him..

Mindmelted said:

South park has some good info on him..

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That's where I learned everything about him!

Anybody remember that one dude, the evangelical who was leader of some thousands of churches? Ted something? Idk. Preached consistently about the blight of homosexuality, til a male escort came forward with some voicemails about his penchant for boys and meth. That's religion folks, if you weren't a fucked up hypocrite before ...

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I don't even understand what the issue is about. Why shouldn't you be allowed to practice sharia law, or anything you want so long as you don't violate any state or federal laws in the process? Did they try to ban it just for the hell of it because it's islamic, or did they have a specific reason to ban it?

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The issue is that they want Muslims to be tried in our courts under Sharia law, not under US law. There are a lot of problems with that, mostly in the realm of womens rights, polygamy, and genital mutilation. In an Islamic country, women are property, much like pets here. A husband has the right to put a woman to death for any number of infractions, and a father has that right over his children as well.

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Then Nuns and Priests need to stop wearing their habits. Mormons need to stop wearing garments (holy underwear). Hassidic Jews have to shave their beards and cut their hair and stop wearing those stupid fucking hats. Amish need to modernize and wear modern clothing....

Yes, lets focus only on Muslims because we hate them. Jesus.

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There is a huge difference between practicing a religion and violating the laws of your guest country, and expecting to be judged by the customs of your homeland. I can promise you that if a Catholic church were to open up in Afghanistan, and if they tried to use wine as a sacrament, the Taliban would be all over them for alcohol. (A HUGE no-no in Islam) They couldn't claim religious freedom over there because it doesn't exist.
Most places in the Muslim world are starting to become grudgingly more tolerant to western influence, but there are a lot of places where genital mutilation is still practised and strict Islamic law holds sway. And strict Islamic law isn't radical Islam. Islamic law really is benevolent and merciful, under Islamic customs!! It's all in what you get used to.