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CoB_nUt

CoB_nUt

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"Flower set" is subjective at best. Funny.I've been growing long enough to know when they set their flowers by appearance for my liking and definition.Or what I deem the start of flower. No breeder I am aware of prints 8-9,9-10,11 weeks from flip on their packs. It's always ....weeks of flower.The way I choose to do it,comes pretty close to the stated times.

We can agree to disagree that flipping the switch only triggers flowering,they aren't flowering until the auxins have built up and flowers have set. I don't need an easy way of counting. I count pretty well.
Plants are done when they are done,or when we decide to chop them. Keeping track of flowering times aides me in deciding when to chop or experiment with longer or shorter flowering times.
 
FirstCavApache64

FirstCavApache64

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Bodyne said:
DC seeds gave me a free pack of dank sinatras f2's from Nube just because Im on disability and Ive heard he helps vets out the same way. Im not nervous bout sending cash, but the paypal option at dcse is much better than sending cash, but both banks are awesome imho.
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He(Paul of DC Seed Exchange) helps out disabled vets that ask him for help all the time. He put me in touch with a breeder that has stayed in touch with me and if I ever am having a hard time the breeder sends me free seeds. Paul also offers discounts to Veterans if you ask. Top notch guy and every time I have ordered I have had it shipped same day or next day. Just wanted to let people know what a great guy he is and I love my Mint Chocolate Trip Regs I got from him. Useful, I can't wait to see if I am going to get any girls out of this run. I only popped three so I am hoping for one but we will see.
 
outliergenetix

outliergenetix

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CoB_nUt said:
"Flower set" is subjective at best. Funny.I've been growing long enough to know when they set their flowers by appearance for my liking and definition.Or what I deem the start of flower. No breeder I am aware of prints 8-9,9-10,11 weeks from flip on their packs. It's always ....weeks of flower.The way I choose to do it,comes pretty close to the stated times.

We can agree to disagree that flipping the switch only triggers flowering,they aren't flowering until the auxins have built up and flowers have set. I don't need an easy way of counting. I count pretty well.
Plants are done when they are done,or when we decide to chop them. Keeping track of flowering times aides me in deciding when to chop or experiment with longer or shorter flowering times.
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i didn't read the other parts to this convo but imo flower set should be what is used, and is likely used by breeders who are selecting for outdoors, for example i'd imagine affcicianado is using flower set, reason is you cannot pin point a flip outdoors. i think this idea of the flip being the start day for counting is born out of misinfo, but this doens't mean allot of breeders don't use the same misinfo when sayign 9 weeks or something. best way is to ask the breeder, but i use from flower set personally when keeping journals
 
GreenHighlander

GreenHighlander

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CoB_nUt said:
"Flower set" is subjective at best. Funny.I've been growing long enough to know when they set their flowers by appearance for my liking and definition.Or what I deem the start of flower. No breeder I am aware of prints 8-9,9-10,11 weeks from flip on their packs. It's always ....weeks of flower.The way I choose to do it,comes pretty close to the stated times.

We can agree to disagree that flipping the switch only triggers flowering,they aren't flowering until the auxins have built up and flowers have set. I don't need an easy way of counting. I count pretty well.
Plants are done when they are done,or when we decide to chop them. Keeping track of flowering times aides me in deciding when to chop or experiment with longer or shorter flowering times.
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I absolutely agree with what you are saying and wasn't trying to knock anyone who does count from flower set. I was just trying to point out that "flower set" is super subjective so I personally believe from flip to be a better universal starting point. Again how does someone know that it wasn't a day or two before they deemed flower set?
Everyone knows flowering times from breeders are also subjective. We do not all grow the same . I always took them as a rough guestimate at best. More or less a time to start looking at trichs.
I agree "flower set" and "flip" are two different things. I just think "flip" is slightly less subjective when it comes to counting.

Cheers :)
 
CoB_nUt

CoB_nUt

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GreenHighlander said:
I absolutely agree with what you are saying and wasn't trying to knock anyone who does count from flower set. I was just trying to point out that "flower set" is super subjective so I personally believe from flip to be a better universal starting point. Again how does someone know that it wasn't a day or two before they deemed flower set?
Everyone knows flowering times from breeders are also subjective. We do not all grow the same . I always took them as a rough guestimate at best. More or less a time to start looking at trichs.
I agree "flower set" and "flip" are two different things. I just think "flip" is slightly less subjective when it comes to counting.

Cheers :)
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I totally agree with your sentiment.I check my plants everyday therefore, I myself know exactly when they "set" flower.Agsin,this is all for my own selfish reasons.
Since I am showcasing Useful's gear,I accept the fact that I should just use "from flip" to keep confusion down for future readers.
All good @GreenHighlander.
 
Useful Seeds

Useful Seeds

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reallybigjesusfreak said:
how do those and the orange cookies like to grow? I prefer to do a few tops, but found some plants really dont like that.

edit: lol I meant the apollo's
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DO NOT top the Apollo -11...lol. I topped em once and they went bat shit crazy...lol. They do not have a strong structure as is, topping em only adds to the issue. BUT, the smoke is very very nice. There is a reason why it is so desirable, the structure is not one of them...lol.
 
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Bio Stimz

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Useful Seeds said:
OH yeah. I was lookin at my cut list and somethin popped out at me. Would any of you folks be interested in A-Dub s1's?? Just curious. Maybe a couple of crosses as well??
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Hey my friend! Just found this thread. Thanx again for making the switch to the centrifuge vials so quickly. Still can't get over how quick you got that into motion.

Your crosses are consistantly impressing me and they're really well thought out, but reversing A-Dub might bring you some headaches, since Sour Diesel & Chemdawg share a monacious heritage. The crosses sound like a better option, but this is your time to shine, so with that.... I'd like to just say that my Useful Seeds addiction is getting worse, each time I converse with you!

Just scored the Gelato 45 x Sour Strawberry and the Jungle Spice x Chocolate Diesel. I picked the Sunshine Daydream x Jabba's Stash and Triple Dawg for freebies - but I needed to ask you what the Triple Dawg is?

~
 
Useful Seeds

Useful Seeds

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Glad ya found yer way over here. Thanks for the kind words, and you are welcome.

I have thought about the A-Dub reversal quite a bit. And I hear ya loud and clear. I am thinking about some other options as far as A-Dub fem crosses versus a straight up A-Dub s1. I may not even reverse the A-Dub. I was actually thinkin about hitting her with BOO, or maybe Chocolate Diesel.

Thanks so much for the support!!! Triple Dawg is Stardawg f3.
 
diggs99

diggs99

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@Useful Seeds

Hi

I assume these questions have been answered already but this thread is huge and I was hoping to save a little time.

I'm interested in your genetics, you have some fantastic growers who really love your stuff, must be a reason for that :)

Do you ship to Canada?
Is there a website to order from ?
Can I get a strain or strains reccomendation from the man himself? I'll grab 2 packs of fems to try for sure.

Thanks man. I've seen your hands on approach in some of this thread, being visible and talking with your customers is huge. Keep up the good work.
 
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Bio Stimz

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Useful Seeds said:
I have thought about the A-Dub reversal quite a bit. And I hear ya loud and clear. I am thinking about some other options as far as A-Dub fem crosses versus a straight up A-Dub s1. I may not even reverse the A-Dub. I was actually thinkin about hitting her with BOO, or maybe Chocolate Diesel.
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Yeah the crosses would likely turn out much better. I think a reversal will just present a lot of potential for mutants and herms, considering the genetics.
 
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