useing molasses

zack66 said:

Update on the taste using it. No real difference in the bud taste with or without it. My cure is not over yet , jars are running 60% humidity. But, overall no taste difference.

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yeah dude. it totally doesn't effect the taste AT ALL. idk why so many people think that. im 100% sure it doesnt make any sort of noticeable change to the taste.

it has to be used like a nute. basically only use it if you dont already have good nutes. i used to get away with vigoro 10-10-10, epsom salts, and molasses for my entire runs start to finish. otherwise i dont see the need for it. its great to use outdoor, instead of wasting huge amounts of expensive nutes.

the yellowing was most likely because you had a better population of bacteria and all from the carbs. your plant uses nutes and water up alot faster. it could also have been caused by too much molasses too. thats never good either.

intenseneal said:

I use Grandmas Organic unsulphured molasses with good results and no issues. You need to use natural organic unsulphured molasses. They are all the same one brand is not any better than the other, it is all made from the same ingredients and the same way. JME

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not exactly.

its right on the bottles. they have different nutes. grandma's brand is not the best stuff. go talk to someone at a health food store, they could most likely explain the difference quite well.
the grandmas stuff is processed and mass produced on a large scale. ive never even seen an "organic" grandma's molasses. only the 2-3 different kinds of it they carry at stores around here locally.

intenseneal said:

Organic or synthetic nutes they all work the same. The plants and bacteria dont know the difference. The problem you can run into with synthetic nutes is a build up of salts in the soil. Again there will be bacteria in soil no matter what. It comes from the soil itself, the water you put in it, from the air around you even the nutes will have some bacteria in them. Bacteria is everywhere. Can you hurt the bacteria population in the soil? Yes you can by dosing too much nutes, under watering, over watering, H2O2 ect. But good luck sterilizing soil. Soils are made up of many different components mostly natural like worm casting, guano, composted foods and animal waste (manure) and then is composted itself. Composting in itself is a bacterial process.

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im sry but what exactly are you trying to clear up with this statement? im confused. and yeah i think it does make a difference synth or organic, i mean thats why organics come out a bit different... salts build up either way. the plant just cant tell one N molecule from another is more along the lines of what u meant to say i think.

smellzlikeskunkyum said:

yeah dude. it totally doesn't effect the taste AT ALL. idk why so many people think that. im 100% sure it doesnt make any sort of noticeable change to the taste.

it has to be used like a nute. basically only use it if you dont already have good nutes. i used to get away with vigoro 10-10-10, epsom salts, and molasses for my entire runs start to finish. otherwise i dont see the need for it. its great to use outdoor, instead of wasting huge amounts of expensive nutes.

the yellowing was most likely because you had a better population of bacteria and all from the carbs. your plant uses nutes and water up alot faster. it could also have been caused by too much molasses too. thats never good either.

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I don't think I over did the molasses. I used a tsp per gallon when feeding. Maybe feeding heavier nute doses would have kept her greener. But, I was already feeding full strength.

Well this discussion has a lot of point of views and no one is allowed their own in some cases, lol.

There also seems to be a lot of "facts' that sound like opinions.

Fact: a plant can uptake minor amounts of basic sugars through the roots. go ahead and do your homework.

Does it make the plant taste better or sweeter? WHO KNOWS!

Does the plant have to work less on making its own sugars? ABSOLUTELY! and we love our plants to just sit back and drink without any extra work other then swelling up those buds.

Now for soil Molasses will benefit the most because it DOES feed microbes and also adds micro nutes including calcium for the plant its self.

I USE IT & I LOVE IT. don't listen to all these " I can tell you 100% it don't work" Bullshit, unless you are a plant that's an OPINION. try it yourself in small doses OR if you are doing just fine without it, DON'T

mtlhaze said:

Well this discussion has a lot of point of views and no one is allowed their own in some cases, lol.

There also seems to be a lot of "facts' that sound like opinions.

Fact: a plant can uptake minor amounts of basic sugars through the roots. go ahead and do your homework.

Does it make the plant taste better or sweeter? WHO KNOWS!

Does the plant have to work less on making its own sugars? ABSOLUTELY! and we love our plants to just sit back and drink without any extra work other then swelling up those buds.

Now for soil Molasses will benefit the most because it DOES feed microbes and also adds micro nutes including calcium for the plant its self.

I USE IT & I LOVE IT. don't listen to all these " I can tell you 100% it don't work" Bullshit, unless you are a plant that's an OPINION. try it yourself in small doses OR if you are doing just fine without it, DON'T

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thanks for your OPINION!!!!

smellzlikeskunkyum said:

......basically only use it if you dont already have good nutes. i used to get away with vigoro 10-10-10, epsom salts, and molasses for my entire runs start to finish. otherwise i dont see the need for it. its great to use outdoor, instead of wasting huge amounts of expensive nutes.

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Now THAT makes so much sense. A product whos' use evolved from "ghetto" grows and carried forward to today. Picture a grower with limited resources who experiences a low priced product that he can visually see that improves his grow. Not only does the product contain sugars for the little buggers in the soil, it contains potassium,magnesium and vitamins which directly attributes to the improved growth witnessed. As he obtains other resources, the molasses are no longer required because the K and Mg has been replaced. The grower will swear by it though and always incorporate it in subsequent grows regardless. Nothing wrong at all with that, a comfortable grower is a successful grower.

@smellzlikeskunky's point is that usually it's redundant to use molasses if you already incorporate the regimen of products available today

What seaweed extract brand should I invest in? Maxicrop or other brands which I cant think of.

Well after pretty much finish out a grow and using molasses from start to finish I am not so convinced it increased yield all that much. My yield did increase but I would not give the credit to the molasses, more to my lighting and more experience.

I thought molasses was just a cheap ass way to add weight and didn't actually add any quality to the bud... am I wrong?

Kyanite393 said:

I thought molasses was just a cheap ass way to add weight and didn't actually add any quality to the bud... am I wrong?

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Yes, molasses is used to feed microbes in organic soil.
that's it nothing more

chuck estevez said:

Yes, molasses is used to feed microbes in organic soil.
that's it nothing more

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and a cheap way to get some nutes if need be, it feeds the microbes, AND contains things like calcium, iron, potassium, etc. like explained earlier in the thread...

i used it before i had access to good nutes, now i have things like Trinity bio catalyst and other bloom/veg nutes. those things replace my need for molasses. they even all contain molasses. the molasses was a cheap jimmy rig kind of replacement for those things when used in combination with the right stuff, and used properly.

Different molasses' have different things in them too... i looked around on that one. some are even made from beets instead of cane. you want organic unsulphured cane molasses.

the quality is in the genetics except for human error/enviroment kind of stuff. which is still a huge factor. molasses isnt a huge cure all or anything. not even close.

not much else to need to know about molasses.