Using Actinovate Lawn and Garden to threat PM

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blackwhite

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1. How Often u can use Actinovate as drench and foliage spray specifically on
cannabis.( i did read instructions but i feel cannabis could be different)

2. How long before harvest i should stop, and is it really safe to use on super late flower buds?

3.Should i do bigger doses then the ones in instruction or no?

4. there was a mention of using soap in foliage spray should i do it?Or it might hurt more then it helps? ( i have special agriculture soap that was ment for neem oil)

5. When i use Actinovate as foliage spray can i after aplay neem oil as well? ( for spider mites)


6. Bonus question :D = if i do evrything good and the end product dosent have any pm on buds, can it still pop up when i start drying, curing?



Hi, so i am in my early flowers and there are still at least 5 to 6 weeks left till harvest, and i have a quite big PM problem.

As suggested in forum i used NEEM oil as a preventive method to not get pm but with no success ( Both drench and foliage spray) Why ? because my plant Is in a war zone with PM all around him with no way to change the environment.

So after reading few reviews i decided to go for organic fungicide Actinovate lawn and garden.

Tough i have few questions i cant seem to find answer to.

+ i already did first soil drench, + with it i aplyed some nutes aswell, bud size doubled in one night. No idea was it actinovate or the fertilizer
 
thumper60

thumper60

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blackwhite said:
1. How Often u can use Actinovate as drench and foliage spray specifically on
cannabis.( i did read instructions but i feel cannabis could be different)

2. How long before harvest i should stop, and is it really safe to use on super late flower buds?

3.Should i do bigger doses then the ones in instruction or no?

4. there was a mention of using soap in foliage spray should i do it?Or it might hurt more then it helps? ( i have special agriculture soap that was ment for neem oil)

5. When i use Actinovate as foliage spray can i after aplay neem oil as well? ( for spider mites)


6. Bonus question :D = if i do evrything good and the end product dosent have any pm on buds, can it still pop up when i start drying, curing?



Hi, so i am in my early flowers and there are still at least 5 to 6 weeks left till harvest, and i have a quite big PM problem.

As suggested in forum i used NEEM oil as a preventive method to not get pm but with no success ( Both drench and foliage spray) Why ? because my plant Is in a war zone with PM all around him with no way to change the environment.

So after reading few reviews i decided to go for organic fungicide Actinovate lawn and garden.

Tough i have few questions i cant seem to find answer to.

+ i already did first soil drench, + with it i aplyed some nutes aswell, bud size doubled in one night. No idea was it actinovate or the fertilizer
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only thing that works for me an is safe is hydrogen peroxcide, 3 percent spray the shit out of them lights out
 
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blackwhite

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No normal method will work on this forget it, besides i alredy have BOUGHT actinovate and started using it, u just wanna know spesifics on canabis
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Actinovate is expensive but, good stuff!

Everything it tells you is good for Cannabis.
Increasing the ratio's will not do better - so don't.

Neem, neem? Oh fuck Neem!

You got a problem? No? Why use an oil on your plant then?
Did you know that Neem is being found to be far more toxic then once thought?
I have found Neem to be one of the most overrated crap piles there is to growing...This will stir the pot. Ther are those that swear by it. One claims to eat it....Tends to explain some things......

Got PM eh?

Once the plants are gone...You have to sanitize the whole grow area and everything in it! Under, over, ceilings, walls, floors. Every surface in the area, including all things in it.....Must be sprayed down with a sanitizing bleach mix...1 part bleach to 9-10 parts water.

Now run your, RH at 40-45% and get control of the temps to only change by like 5 deg (F) during lights on (the natural swing between lights on and off - don't count).

Any clones coming into your grow that you did not do. Need to be treated with an anti PM dip - Green Cure, mix at 1TBL per gallon and dip the plant in it, spray on the media surface and the cup it's in - all over it.

Good luck
 
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blackwhite

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Thanks, ye i prob wount use neem to much anymore.
But sure enough i have problems, Its an outdoor grow and it looks like this ibb.co/mFZrK5
+ Spider mites and 10 - 15 other species of unholy weed vampire fly's

So i cant possibly clean all garden and even if i would it wouldn't make a difference. i just have to fight it all the time thats exacly why i wanted to know the precise dosage so i can apply it as often as possible to ensure that final product inst contaminated .
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Dr. Who said:
Actinovate is expensive but, good stuff!

Everything it tells you is good for Cannabis.
Increasing the ratio's will not do better - so don't.

Neem, neem? Oh fuck Neem!

You got a problem? No? Why use an oil on your plant then?
Did you know that Neem is being found to be far more toxic then once thought?
I have found Neem to be one of the most overrated crap piles there is to growing...This will stir the pot. Ther are those that swear by it. One claims to eat it....Tends to explain some things......

Got PM eh?

Once the plants are gone...You have to sanitize the whole grow area and everything in it! Under, over, ceilings, walls, floors. Every surface in the area, including all things in it.....Must be sprayed down with a sanitizing bleach mix...1 part bleach to 9-10 parts water.

Now run your, RH at 40-45% and get control of the temps to only change by like 5 deg (F) during lights on (the natural swing between lights on and off - don't count).

Any clones coming into your grow that you did not do. Need to be treated with an anti PM dip - Green Cure, mix at 1TBL per gallon and dip the plant in it, spray on the media surface and the cup it's in - all over it.

Good luck
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You actually can apply it at much heavier rates if you believe the conditions for PM are perfect, and this will increase the effectiveness. Then again it was the owner and chief sales guy that told me this... He said double the dose if you're in an outbreak and put it on as much as you like. I have noticed crystallized sugar on my leaves after I have done this (99% sucrose, some small percent bacteria), but I switch to H2O2 and Green Cure once I have an outbreak now.

No problem applying up to harvest.

I agree on the neem comments, I don't touch the stuff anymore.
 
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blackwhite

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Nice thanks, thats good info. Just one more thing if i had PM and i fought it off can I still use leafs and stems after harvest for making butter, extracts, etc.? same on the buds will the sugars left from atinovate wount leave somthing on buds?



Il guess il get my shit together and start grow journal as well.. would be interesting prob.
 
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Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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blackwhite said:
Nice thanks, thats good info. Just one more thing if i had PM and i fought it off can I still use leafs and stems after harvest for making butter, extracts, etc.? same on the buds will the sugars left from atinovate wount leave somthing on buds?



Il guess il get my shit together and start grow journal as well.. would be interesting prob.
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Ol' Jorge has a video for washing off at harvest....


I've seen it done. Seems to make it useful for many things.

You can bubble hash it.
 
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blackwhite

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its a viable method however it should be avoided at all costs, for it makes buds taste bad, thats why i have the actinovate.
 
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blackwhite

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hydrogen peroxide man, in Jorge video. Thats where i dont wanna be!! I want my weed free of PM . Thats why i use actinovate, but i was not sure will it just prevent PM in to geting to buds or will it cure the plant complitly, so i can use stems/ leafs as well.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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blackwhite said:
hydrogen peroxide man, in Jorge video. Thats where i dont wanna be!! I want my weed free of PM . Thats why i use actinovate, but i was not sure will it just prevent PM in to geting to buds or will it cure the plant complitly, so i can use stems/ leafs as well.
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You don't know what you're talking about. I've helped a friend do the H2O2 bath and it does not change the smell. The hose rinse is needed to get it all off and that does remove some trichs, but cleaned bud will smoke fine.
 
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blackwhite

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When i did it the first time, i felt like i washed awey alot of trichs, minimized the smell, and it made weed crackle. So i am not a fan of Hydr.P
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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blackwhite said:
When i did it the first time, i felt like i washed awey alot of trichs, minimized the smell, and it made weed crackle. So i am not a fan of Hydr.P
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Crackling is usually a poor cure, don't blame the H2O2. It literally off gasses as water and oxygen. You did wash off trichs and lost even more if you blasted it with a hose. Either that or it would smoke moldy and taste like absolute shit from still having mold on it. No free lunch on the pm wash, just making the best of bad situation.
 
thumper60

thumper60

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Bugeye said:
You don't know what you're talking about. I've helped a friend do the H2O2 bath and it does not change the smell. The hose rinse is needed to get it all off and that does remove some trichs, but cleaned bud will smoke fine.
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may wash off most spores,but what about the pm in the plant not good for doobies,maybe edibiles
 
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