Using energy from crystals and pyramids to increase plant success

polyarcturus

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I understand your skepticism but LED is definitely where we are heading. It will be the norm within the next decade. Once we learn more about what frequencies the plants actually need, and then get some super legitimate companies making them affordable, I just don't see how they couldn't be the absolute best for plants. Im talking HIGH powered cannabis specific LEDs. No bullshit. People always mention trying to mimic nature, but this is the wrong path to take. We have the opportunity to be better than nature, CO2 injection for example. Becoming better than nature is the only way that the quality of buds will just keep on climbing. They certainly don't need the entire light range of the sun. Or HPS/MH lights either. So much wasted heat energy. Granted, my LED light probably does suck lol. Just wait till we get some seriously on point LED lights man. Don't give up on em!
you need to start being more ligh hearted as the guy your talking at, hes grown with leds much longer than you with, as you put "high powered cannabis specific leds" with that being said you have the right idea be better than nature, but that does not mean DISSIMILAR! you want to be similar to nature but better when it come to light you need yellow green blue and red as they all have a purpose as the plants have adapted to use them there are no specific spectrum's only blends that are better than sunlight.

more red more blue does not = more bud. more light all together does though. keep this in mind also it is very hard to beat the sun as far as light goes. LED definitely will not cut it.
 

StoopidLungs

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you need to start being more ligh hearted as the guy your talking at, hes grown with leds much longer than you with, as you put "high powered cannabis specific leds" with that being said you have the right idea be better than nature, but that does not mean DISSIMILAR! you want to be similar to nature but better when it come to light you need yellow green blue and red as they all have a purpose as the plants have adapted to use them there are no specific spectrum's only blends that are better than sunlight.

more red more blue does not = more bud. more light all together does though. keep this in mind also it is very hard to beat the sun as far as light goes. LED definitely will not cut it.
Didn't mean to sound like that man I just like to talk about the future lol. This is my first grow. I don't really "know" anyone yet so Im just gonna be preachin' about the ideas that come to my mind when I read a post. I'm sure I will get a better feel for it. When I respond to someone, I'm pretty much just responding to anyone who might be reading these threads. Peace
 

Heisenberg

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https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/388385-correct-use-word-energy.html

Energy is a science word that means only one thing, the ability to do work. A measurable work potential. Energy can be used, it can be stored, but it can not be imprinted onto a house, or felt from negative thoughts.

When someone is trying to explain a scientific concept, and misuses such a basic scientific word as energy, that person probably doesn't know what they are talking about.
 

copperheadroad1

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i just play them rock, nroll, ac/dc, deep purple etc.. might get some kinda sparkly fake crystals, for my leds to bounce off n hang round the tent, like a wind chime, good thread bro


hey i could get some of those mini novely disco balls and hang it in there as the plants, rock out


sweet!
 

copperheadroad1

Active Member
you need to start being more ligh hearted as the guy your talking at, hes grown with leds much longer than you with, as you put "high powered cannabis specific leds" with that being said you have the right idea be better than nature, but that does not mean DISSIMILAR! you want to be similar to nature but better when it come to light you need yellow green blue and red as they all have a purpose as the plants have adapted to use them there are no specific spectrum's only blends that are better than sunlight.

more red more blue does not = more bud. more light all together does though. keep this in mind also it is very hard to beat the sun as far as light goes. LED definitely will not cut it.

im just chimming in here, and by no means do i have much proof of what im about to say, but, i think the red/blue spectrums leds put out are best used in tric production, and if used to early in the flowering cycle over hps you may loose some overall yeild

dont get me wrong tho im crazy about my 600w led, its like going inside an alien spaceship in there, with weed:eyesmoke:
 

dbkick

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I understand your skepticism but LED is definitely where we are heading. It will be the norm within the next decade. Once we learn more about what frequencies the plants actually need, and then get some super legitimate companies making them affordable, I just don't see how they couldn't be the absolute best for plants. Im talking HIGH powered cannabis specific LEDs. No bullshit. People always mention trying to mimic nature, but this is the wrong path to take. We have the opportunity to be better than nature, CO2 injection for example. Becoming better than nature is the only way that the quality of buds will just keep on climbing. They certainly don't need the entire light range of the sun. Or HPS/MH lights either. So much wasted heat energy. Granted, my LED light probably does suck lol. Just wait till we get some seriously on point LED lights man. Don't give up on em!
LED has its place for me and that's in veg, after that make mine hps.
 

silusbotwin

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even rastafari.

its not so much the belief, but the organization of a belief. everyone should not believe the same thing, because there is no one answer.
Ahhh, quite the contrary, the answer IS "one". The entire planet is one huge living creature and we, the human race, are the cancer that is killing the Earth. But when you look at the big picture, we are all a collective "one" who manifests reality, from a collective whole of thoughts put into action. Each of us contributing, some more than others, to the growth of the organism that is the cosmos.

https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/388385-correct-use-word-energy.html

Energy is a science word that means only one thing, the ability to do work. A measurable work potential. Energy can be used, it can be stored, but it can not be imprinted onto a house, or felt from negative thoughts.

When someone is trying to explain a scientific concept, and misuses such a basic scientific word as energy, that person probably doesn't know what they are talking about.
Ahhhh, but what are thoughts on a completely physical scientific level?
What are thoughts made of if you had to place them into a category?
Is your brain not just a high tech machine designed to transmit and receive electronic pulses or "energy"?

Never consider something impossible just because you cannot see it. The human eye can only see 3% of the matter that takes up space on Earth. That leaves 97% in a dimension that cannot be seen by the human eye. But we know from modern science, that it is definitely there. Think of infrared spectrum, radio waves, radioactivity.

Well, thats my thoughts anyway. I LOVE talking about this stuff :)
 

Heisenberg

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Ahhhh, but what are thoughts on a completely physical scientific level?
What are thoughts made of if you had to place them into a category?
Is your brain not just a high tech machine designed to transmit and receive electronic pulses or "energy"?

Never consider something impossible just because you cannot see it. The human eye can only see 3% of the matter that takes up space on Earth. That leaves 97% in a dimension that cannot be seen by the human eye. But we know from modern science, that it is definitely there. Think of infrared spectrum, radio waves, radioactivity.

Well, thats my thoughts anyway. I LOVE talking about this stuff :)
I invite you to the philosophy section to discuss this as it is off topic here. I enjoy these types of conversations as well.
 

polyarcturus

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Ahhh, quite the contrary, the answer IS "one". The entire planet is one huge living creature and we, the human race, are the cancer that is killing the Earth. But when you look at the big picture, we are all a collective "one" who manifests reality, from a collective whole of thoughts put into action. Each of us contributing, some more than others, to the growth of the organism that is the cosmos.



Ahhhh, but what are thoughts on a completely physical scientific level?
What are thoughts made of if you had to place them into a category?
Is your brain not just a high tech machine designed to transmit and receive electronic pulses or "energy"?

Never consider something impossible just because you cannot see it. The human eye can only see 3% of the matter that takes up space on Earth. That leaves 97% in a dimension that cannot be seen by the human eye. But we know from modern science, that it is definitely there. Think of infrared spectrum, radio waves, radioactivity.

Well, thats my thoughts anyway. I LOVE talking about this stuff :)

wish i could like this again +rep
 

polyarcturus

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im just chimming in here, and by no means do i have much proof of what im about to say, but, i think the red/blue spectrums leds put out are best used in tric production, and if used to early in the flowering cycle over hps you may loose some overall yeild

dont get me wrong tho im crazy about my 600w led, its like going inside an alien spaceship in there, with weed:eyesmoke:
all the links and reading on the subject here
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/545857-advanced-lighting-spectrums-t5-floro.html

and some info on UV for ya :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfiI78uN3Ks


all the colors are important, in the proper ratios of course.
 

polyarcturus

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https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/388385-correct-use-word-energy.html

Energy is a science word that means only one thing, the ability to do work. A measurable work potential. Energy can be used, it can be stored, but it can not be imprinted onto a house, or felt from negative thoughts.

When someone is trying to explain a scientific concept, and misuses such a basic scientific word as energy, that person probably doesn't know what they are talking about.
maybe it should be rephrased car batteries got me thinking... it does contain potential energy though? and the definition, "to do work" on a microscopic level this applies much differently... hmm good food for thought.
 

Heisenberg

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maybe it should be rephrased car batteries got me thinking... it does contain potential energy though? and the definition, "to do work" on a microscopic level this applies much differently... hmm good food for thought.
The point I was trying to make is that before someone goes to the trouble and expense of ordering crystals they may want to ask themselves a few basic questions.

If the premise is that crystals/pyramids give the plants energy, what kind of energy is it? Where does it come from? How is it stored? How is it transferred to plants? Does this energy follow the laws of thermodynamics?

The answer to all these questions are quite easy when you are talking about systems that actually use energy. If the energy can not be described or measured, it is not, by definition, energy.
 

polyarcturus

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The point I was trying to make is that before someone goes to the trouble and expense of ordering crystals they may want to ask themselves a few basic questions.

no we are on the same page that is what i was implying in my original post, that there needs to be some science to it.
 

trumpy

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copperheadroad1

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someone was on about telling your plants, how they gonna grow big and strong, and getting feed back from your plants, and i gotta admit i had a little snicker and thought what a looney or whatevere, as i read through...

anyway the next day im in with my girls and no one was arround, cause it was early, so, i started saying, stuff, like you girls are nice and safe and im gonna water them every dsay till the grow big etc..., then i kinda said , in my cheech, voice, "so like kinda tell me if there any problems or anything bothering, you, and just as i was feeling completely stupid..

then one of my plants, said, "hey get this caterpiller off me bro"
 

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