Vaccinated stay contagious longer than Unvaccinated

ActionianJacksonian said:

Does setting up a goal on a field all by yourself, then kicking a ball through it and proclaiming victory over anyone that's not there; work out for you much? Give you like a sense of accomplishment?

Rhetorical questions, but you do you, slugger.

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Fogdog said:

Oh, so you just want to talk about me? I thought you wanted to talk about something specific?

So you started a thread with an irrelevant and probably wrong premise. Isn't death rate more important than a few days of contageousness? Assuming your claim is correct, that is.

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mooray said:

What's a WW3 vax mandate??

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PJ Diaz said:

I wonder why more people who have gotten boosters are getting sick, and hospitalized vs those who haven't been boosted. Weird, eh?

date	area	vaccinated_cases	boosted_cases	vaccinated_hosp	boosted_hosp	population_vaccinated	population_boosted
7/17/2022​	California	1311​	3212​	25​	38​	11273387​	16013870​
7/16/2022​	California	1498​	3645​	29​	56​	11274903​	16011638​
7/15/2022​	California	2243​	5099​	31​	57​	11277620​	16007721​
7/14/2022​	California	2260​	5377​	39​	73​	11283982​	15998929​
7/13/2022​	California	2468​	5958​	44​	80​	11289554​	15990885​
7/12/2022​	California	2536​	5885​	53​	86​	11295188​	15982849​
7/11/2022​	California	2813​	6687​	51​	79​	11300670​	15974832​
7/10/2022​	California	1310​	3259​	39​	74​	11306516​	15966647​
7/9/2022​	California	1572​	3909​	54​	113​	11308373​	15963895​
7/8/2022​	California	2384​	5658​	53​	96​	11311567​	15959229​
7/7/2022​	California	2588​	6169​	48​	120​	11318475​	15949502​
7/6/2022​	California	2710​	6744​	58​	109​	11324792​	15940669​
7/5/2022​	California	3270​	7943​	66​	135​	11330824​	15932060​
7/4/2022​	California	1106​	3382​	55​	93​	11336895​	15923487​
7/3/2022​	California	1120​	3157​	54​	103​	11343600​	15914723​
7/2/2022​	California	1335​	3517​	60​	94​	11345291​	15912257​
7/1/2022​	California	2138​	5453​	62​	136​	11348704​	15907292​
Total for date range	California	34662​	85054​	821​	1542​

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canndo said:

In other words, "you are wrong because you are not being indoctrinated by the same people as I am "

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Herb & Suds said:

Critical thinking would say more people got vaccinated
Ta Da

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PJ Diaz said:

So, we have a 7:10 ratio of people vaccinated only vs boosted, however we have a 4:10 ratio of vaxxed vs boosted cases and a nearly 1:2 ratio of vaxxed vs boosted hospitalizations. Critical thinking plus math shows us that a much higher ratio of the boosted folks were both infected and also hospitalized vs the ratio of the vaxxed only group. Yay math, Ta Da.

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Herb & Suds said:

Which means groups with higher risk got vaccinated

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PJ Diaz said:

That's pure speculation on your part. You have zero way to corroborate that theory.

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Herb & Suds said:

Kinda like the stolen election bs?

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PJ Diaz said:

Yep

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Herb & Suds said:

Well as a former Republican I gotta say
Prove me wrong ?

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Fogdog said:

Oh, so you just want to talk about me? I thought you wanted to talk about something specific?

So you started a thread with an irrelevant and probably wrong premise. Isn't death rate more important than a few days of contageousness? Assuming your claim is correct, that is.

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ActionianJacksonian said:

So you want to talk about death rate? Why not just state that like an adult instead of pretending I was engaging you about it or even raised a point about it?

Anyway, someone took your bait, pretty sure your line is too light though.

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Fogdog said:

Yeah, actually, I'd rather talk about issues of the day. I'm not interesting and neither are you.

So, you posted a small sample size study that showed maybe a vaccinated person is a contagious for a few more days than unvaccinated people. This is an interesting result in that it raises questions. First, it needs to be confirmed and then if true, then why? What can we learn from this finding? As far as it being an issue of public health, as you inferred in your post, it's valid to point out that when a person contracts covid, unvaxxed die at much higher rates than vaxxed. This paper's finding is interesting but it's not all that important wrt public health.

But go ahead and talk about yourself or me. You tend to focus on irrelevant things.

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ActionianJacksonian said:

Spike proteins are still localized though right? Sure hope they don't start popping up in brains, hearts and breastmilk.

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ActionianJacksonian said:

Spike proteins are still localized though right? Sure hope they don't start popping up in brains, hearts and breastmilk.

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Severe COVID-19 could affect brain as much as ageing 20 years

Cognitive impairment, such as difficulty recalling words, could also be affecting many people who have had COVID-19 but were not hospitalised, the study found.

www.euronews.com

CunningCanuk said:

You just proved fogdog’s point.

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Fogdog said:

Yeah, actually, I'd rather talk about issues of the day.

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A Case Report: Multifocal Necrotizing Encephalitis and Myocarditis after BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccination against COVID-19

The current report presents the case of a 76-year-old man with Parkinson’s disease (PD) who died three weeks after receiving his third COVID-19 vaccination. The patient was first vaccinated in May 2021 with the ChAdOx1 nCov-19 vector vaccine, followed by two doses of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine in...

www.mdpi.com