yeah i do that every time. I meant caremelo, but I remember you had cream caramel and my friend grew out the carmelicious (he loved it). I was just popping all fems this time and forgot or I would be growing that too. I planted one reg seed JH x haze right before flowering and I just saw the female preflowers a couple min. ago. The vortex seems to be one of sub's most popular strains. My bro is growing immortal flower's vortex bx (jaffa cakes) and it's beast. It left everything else in the dust as far as growth goes. He's getting me a clone of it, I got a pack of seeds of it, and he brought me an AO clone yesterday too. Have never had much interest in subcool outside of SQ, The Flav, and Querkle. Maybe I will change my tune soon.