Vero 29C Minimun Current?

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Bruno Cencio

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Hello there!

I've looked everywhere I can not find any specific data about this, I know that V29C working at 700mA gives you like 45w per COB, I would like to know which is the minimum V29C can run? Has anyone tried this?

I aim for 400w per square meter, and my next fixture with V29C @ 700ma delivers like 500~550w, I would like to know if it is possible to go a litter lower than that.
 
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Bruno Cencio said:
Hello there!

I've looked everywhere I can not find any specific data about this, I know that V29C working at 700mA gives you like 45w per COB, I would like to know which is the minimum V29C can run? Has anyone tried this?

I aim for 400w per square meter, and my next fixture with V29C @ 700ma delivers like 500~550w, I would like to know if it is possible to go a litter lower than that.
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Cobs can be ran at damn near a watt and will illuminate somewhat.
 
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Airwalker16 said:
Cobs can be ran at damn near a watt and will illuminate somewhat.
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That's good to know!

So if I continue going down, efficiency will go up? I reckon V29C @ 700ma does like 207lm/w, or the eff. graph kind of go down after certain point.

Anyway... that solved my issue already.

Thanks for the reply

PD. Is there any Driver that could drive 8 x V29C @ 700(or 1050) or less dimming capable?

What do you think of my fixture?

Thanks in advance
 

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Bruno Cencio said:
That's good to know!

So if I continue going down, efficiency will go up? I reckon V29C @ 700ma does like 207lm/w, or the eff. graph kind of go down after certain point.

Anyway... that solved my issue already.

Thanks for the reply

PD. Is there any Driver that could drive 8 x V29C @ 700(or 1050) or less dimming capable?

What do you think of my fixture?

Thanks in advance
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That the 69volt version?
Also, have you already purchased them?
 
Airwalker16

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Bruno Cencio said:
That's good to know!

So if I continue going down, efficiency will go up? I reckon V29C @ 700ma does like 207lm/w, or the eff. graph kind of go down after certain point.

Anyway... that solved my issue already.

Thanks for the reply

PD. Is there any Driver that could drive 8 x V29C @ 700(or 1050) or less dimming capable?

What do you think of my fixture?

Thanks in advance
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Very cool fixture, but just know in reality the cobs and strips will be much smaller than on your drawing and everything will get much further spaced apart. But that's a good thing.
 
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Bruno Cencio

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Thanks!

Those are indeed the 69v version, Vero 29C.

Didn't order yet, want to get some feedback on my fixure. Yeah I know they are, but for the better, strips on center to avoid hotspots and give the panels a "full spectrum"

Will be something like 360w (V29C @ 3k), 40w (LTQ22A 4k), 20w (LTQ22A, 5K) and on the future will add those deep and far red for a few watts more and improve yield.

Thank you very much for the feedback Airwalker16!
 
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The C version kinda sucks cause it restricts you to using CC drivers. And if that's what you wanna really do, you got 2 optiona to have all on one driver.

HLG-480H-C1400
HLG-480H-C1750(damn near Max this driver out perfect with 4 Vero29C.

You'd run 2 parallel series of 4 to split the current to 700 or 875 but your 272 total volts together still remain within the 343 and EXACTLY PERFECT 274 Max voltages of those 2 drivers.
 
TEKNIK

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Can I ask why you want to use vero? I am pretty sure that luminous cobs out perform them and are cheaper
 
Airwalker16

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If you haven't bought em, scratch all that and get the 36V I think D Version.
Opens up a whole other type of CV drivers to use and more ways to apply it to other CC drivers
 
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And I think Teknik's right. Luminous are cheaper and I think just as good if not better. I like Vero too though :) poke in connectors bad Ass
 
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I think the new luminous is the best on the market at the moment, can easily get holders from someone like cob kits too
 
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Bruno Cencio said:
Hello there!

I've looked everywhere I can not find any specific data about this, I know that V29C working at 700mA gives you like 45w per COB, I would like to know which is the minimum V29C can run? Has anyone tried this?
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I just reworked my Vero C fixture today. The Cobs now run between 6W (dimmed) and 14W (200mA) each. No issues.
 
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I choose Vero 29C because it's the best performing COB atm, New luminous offer a 4% increase in efficiency from previous gen, but I think they WONT beat Vero29C (all others variations yes), still waiting for MIGRO review of both of them, i'll see the winner there, but I think new luminous wont outperform the V29C tbh.

Do you have any data/research showing Luminous COBs efficiency? 207 lm/w at 700ma is hard to beat, and 45w offers really really good penetration troughout the plant.

Maybe I can stick with 2 drivers for each panel, that's no problem.

I have in hand 16x Vero18D 3500k will be runing them at 700ma, 2 cobs per heatsink in a simillar configuracion to perform some test on Pot size/veg time/mainlining size.
 
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Bruno Cencio said:
I choose Vero 29C because it's the best performing COB atm, New luminous offer a 4% increase in efficiency from previous gen, but I think they WONT beat Vero29C (all others variations yes), still waiting for MIGRO review of both of them, i'll see the winner there, but I think new luminous wont outperform the V29C tbh.

Do you have any data/research showing Luminous COBs efficiency? 207 lm/w at 700ma is hard to beat, and 45w offers really really good penetration troughout the plant.

Maybe I can stick with 2 drivers for each panel, that's no problem.

I have in hand 16x Vero18D 3500k will be runing them at 700ma, 2 cobs per heatsink in a simillar configuracion to perform some test on Pot size/veg time/mainlining size.
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last gen luminus were neck and neck with veroC below 70W

new gen luminus are 8-10% more efficient in my tests. not sure vero has bumped their spec in that time
 
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Bruno Cencio

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F%CK! So my intel is all wrong, well... better safe than sorry. Will begin again with the build.

I took the 207lm/w from some sheet from the internet, and 29C are renowned fron being efficiency king. But you guys are the ones who know.

I know Bridgelux anounced an update on their gen 7, but they only exist on datasheets right now.
It is still Gen 7, but with slightly (4%) improved efficiency

So which Luminus would be the perfect replacement for Vero29C?

Given the fixture I want to build, which Luminous/Driver should I use for 8 COBs per panel?
 

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TEKNIK

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Don't ever rely on calculators, there is a massive difference between real life tests and calculators.
 
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TEKNIK said:
Don't ever rely on calculators, there is a massive difference between real life tests and calculators.
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i think calculators are really only useful for comparing models within one mfr's stable

STILL, its almost impossible to gauge Tc accurately which can skew the numbers pretty dramatically
 
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