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There is a certain organization that does charity work.

www.usaid.gov

U.S. Agency for International Development

USAID is the world's premier international development agency and a catalytic actor driving development results. USAID's work advances U.S. national security and economic prosperity, demonstrates American generosity, and promotes a path to recipient self-reliance and resilience.
www.usaid.gov www.usaid.gov

Just the other day in Russia, the results of an investigation into the activities of this company were published.

The investigation was carried out

The Private Intelligence Company | R-Techno

business intelligence, competitive intelligence, risk management, due diligence, security management, crisis management, market research, marketing intelligence, M&A, information counteractions, anti fraud service, detective investigation, economic disputes settlement
r-techno.com r-techno.com

All documents on the activities of this company were provided. It turns out that charity was just a front. This company was organized by the CIA to finance the "color revolutions", in other words, Maidans. Clear figures were provided on how much money specifically was transferred to Georgia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan. According to the authors of the investigation, all this money was directed to organize coups. It was a long process, from recruiting to organizing riots.

The results of this investigation are now shown on all Russian TV channels.

Is this true or fiction .. I don’t know.))
 
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Sedan said:
There is a certain organization that does charity work.

www.usaid.gov

U.S. Agency for International Development

USAID is the world's premier international development agency and a catalytic actor driving development results. USAID's work advances U.S. national security and economic prosperity, demonstrates American generosity, and promotes a path to recipient self-reliance and resilience.
www.usaid.gov www.usaid.gov

Just the other day in Russia, the results of an investigation into the activities of this company were published.

The investigation was carried out

The Private Intelligence Company | R-Techno

business intelligence, competitive intelligence, risk management, due diligence, security management, crisis management, market research, marketing intelligence, M&A, information counteractions, anti fraud service, detective investigation, economic disputes settlement
r-techno.com r-techno.com

All documents on the activities of this company were provided. It turns out that charity was just a front. This company was organized by the CIA to finance the "color revolutions", in other words, Maidans. Clear figures were provided on how much money specifically was transferred to Georgia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan. According to the authors of the investigation, all this money was directed to organize coups. It was a long process, from recruiting to organizing riots.

The results of this investigation are now shown on all Russian TV channels.

Is this true or fiction .. I don’t know.))
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USAID is a well known CIA front of long standing. So is NED, or the "National Endowment for Democracy".
 
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USAID is a well known CIA front of long standing. So is NED, or the "National Endowment for Democracy".
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ttystikk said:
USAID is a well known CIA front of long standing. So is NED, or the "National Endowment for Democracy".
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I kept thinking who is behind this in the face of the CIA..
They invest in Ukrainian agriculture, in the fight against the coronovirus, they support some territorial communities. Damn, what lovely people.)))

Україна | U.S. Agency for International Development

Сьогодні Україна веде війну на два фронти, яка обмежує її налаштованість та спроможність рухатися шляхом до самостійності: з одного боку, вона має чинити опір повномасштабній агресії з боку Росії, а з іншого – долати успадкований від попередніх років тягар внутрішньої корупції.
www.usaid.gov www.usaid.gov

.Now I understand..Maidan cost about a million a day-Maidan lasted three months. But this is a drop in the ocean - in total, about $3.5 billion was transferred to Ukraine from USAID accounts, starting from the time of the first Maidan. In 2020, 35 million dollars were transferred to Kazakhstan. Here is the Maidan according to the accelerated scheme.)))

I think that the investigation was conducted not by that private intelligence company, but by the Russian special services

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I do hope you and your wife are safe and healthy my friend!
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Thanks Bro!

Coronavirus has passed us by now. Their poison does not take us, Bro.)) We are healthy as long as the fire burns in us!

Health and good spirits to you, bro!!
 
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USAID is a well known CIA front of long standing. So is NED, or the "National Endowment for Democracy".
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New joke.)) Now we have them every day. Again, Pentagon intelligence predicted, and Psaki voiced. It turns out that Russia, before attacking, will first carry out sabotage. Russian saboteurs will dress up in Ukrainian military uniforms and massacre the Russian-speaking population in order to stir up protests and discredit the Ukrainian army in the eyes of the Russian-speaking population living in Ukraine.

Can you imagine, this lying scum now specifically scares me!))) You know how close I live to the border. If the saboteurs get through, then the first one they cut their throat is me.))))

It's funny, of course, but maybe it's a double game. This is when people in Ukrainian uniforms really come and start killing Russian-speakers, but they will not be Russians in disguise .. Then everything will be blamed on Russia. That's exactly what I'm afraid of! It's possible Bro. They do not abhor any meanness there.
 
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New joke.)) Now we have them every day. Again, Pentagon intelligence predicted, and Psaki voiced. It turns out that Russia, before attacking, will first carry out sabotage. Russian saboteurs will dress up in Ukrainian military uniforms and massacre the Russian-speaking population in order to stir up protests and discredit the Ukrainian army in the eyes of the Russian-speaking population living in Ukraine.

Can you imagine, this lying scum now specifically scares me!))) You know how close I live to the border. If the saboteurs get through, then the first one they cut their throat is me.))))

It's funny, of course, but maybe it's a double game. This is when people in Ukrainian uniforms really come and start killing Russian-speakers, but they will not be Russians in disguise .. Then everything will be blamed on Russia. That's exactly what I'm afraid of! It's possible Bro. They do not abhor any meanness there.
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Once again Ukraine finds itself the rope in someone else's tug of war.
 
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Once again Ukraine finds itself the rope in someone else's tug of war.
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A day later, the heating is turned off in the dead of winter with us. Last night the lights went out for three hours. The consequences begin. I think that Europe will soon feel it. Somehow, in pursuit of a sensation about Russia's invasion of Ukraine, they somehow forgot about their people that they also need to warm themselves in winter. In anticipation of an invasion, Europe may finally freeze. Because there will be no invasion!

Do you remember I wrote about the reaction of the Ukrainian media to the introduction of the CSTO into Kazakhstan. About how the American politician said authoritatively, they say, if the Russians come somewhere, then it will be very difficult to expel them later. A few days later, the CSTO withdraws its troops from Kazakhstan. These fools urgently need to come up with something so as not to crap themselves. Do you know what they came up with?)) Now the Ukrainian media is trumpeting the news that the Chinese president did not like this - he called Putin .. told him: Hey Putin, Kazakhstan is my territory, get out of Kazakhstan immediately! Putin was very frightened and immediately withdrew troops from Kazakhstan.

This is what I saw on the news yesterday in all seriousness.
 
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The clones have grown a little, today I plan to gradually connect sodium lamps. I'll start with the top 400 watts, later, when a few plants adapt to the new lighting, I'll add the bottom 600.

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ttystikk

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A day later, the heating is turned off in the dead of winter with us. Last night the lights went out for three hours. The consequences begin. I think that Europe will soon feel it. Somehow, in pursuit of a sensation about Russia's invasion of Ukraine, they somehow forgot about their people that they also need to warm themselves in winter. In anticipation of an invasion, Europe may finally freeze. Because there will be no invasion!

Do you remember I wrote about the reaction of the Ukrainian media to the introduction of the CSTO into Kazakhstan. About how the American politician said authoritatively, they say, if the Russians come somewhere, then it will be very difficult to expel them later. A few days later, the CSTO withdraws its troops from Kazakhstan. These fools urgently need to come up with something so as not to crap themselves. Do you know what they came up with?)) Now the Ukrainian media is trumpeting the news that the Chinese president did not like this - he called Putin .. told him: Hey Putin, Kazakhstan is my territory, get out of Kazakhstan immediately! Putin was very frightened and immediately withdrew troops from Kazakhstan.

This is what I saw on the news yesterday in all seriousness.
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It seems everyone's "news" is full of silly bullshit.
 
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It seems everyone's "news" is full of silly bullshit.
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I understand that it is better not to pay attention to all this, because this is all a frank provocation. On the one hand, false information attacks. On the other hand, pumping up Ukraine with weapons. All this is so arrogant and cynical that sometimes it causes sincere surprise. I'm very familiar with history... and the history of international politics. Very many cunning tricks have been resorted to by politicians at different times in order to outwit their opponent. There were dishonorable methods, there were vile methods .. there were different things. But neither Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Bismarck, nor Napoleon, would ever betray their allies and give them to hyenas to be torn to pieces! This is a very vile, unprincipled and immoral policy when you wage your war on someone else's territory, with someone else's hands, someone else's lives, someone else's blood, someone else's grief!!! Since 2014, quite a lot of Russians have died in this war .. quite a lot of Ukrainians .. How many Americans have died? Who started this war by organizing the Maidan? I just don't have words to express my feelings. If I were personally offered such a partner or companion .. with such thoughts in my head as US politicians, then I would not let such a "partner" approach me for a kilometer .. I would simply run away from him !!!
 
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It seems everyone's "news" is full of silly bullshit.
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you need to wait a bit, now it’s not clear how everything will develop, it all depends on how the United States responds to Russia’s proposal. From this will be repelled by the development of events. I don't expect anything grandiose from these talks, I want at least a trend towards a tendency for relations between Russia and the United States to become at least a little warmer. But this is unlikely to happen. I put myself in the place of the American president and I understand that this is an unrealistic task that is now facing him.. What should I say to Putin?! On the one hand, a shame in their country, on the other hand, a possible third world war. This, of course, was not the choice that faced Kennedy then, but still ... And now we will fully understand what Biden is capable of as a politician, as a leader of the state. He had an opportunity to save the world.

As for the war with Ukraine. I put myself in Putin’s place and think: how to restore peace in the Donbas without the participation of Ukraine, if the United States does not make concessions in negotiations on global security and does not stop pumping Ukraine with weapons. I think that Putin will act very simply, he will officially announce the recognition of the LPR and DPR by Russia as a state. Then all members of the CSTO will do this, then the decision maker and the DPR will enter the CSTO. They will immediately ask for help, like Kazakhstan. Then the CSTO troops will arrive. The most important thing here is that the troops will not be Russian, the troops of the CSTO, they will be from the CSTO of Belarus or Kazakhstan. These troops will stand between the Ukrainian army and the Donetsk and Lugansk republics, as peacekeepers. Then no one will say that Russian troops are the key point.
This is the maximum that Putin will do, if the development of the scenario in the negotiations is unsuccessful for him.

Also, the war may flare up due to a petty provocation from one side or the other.. attempts of which, we see now. This is the worst scenario ever.

But what is most important is that none of the scenarios that are possible with the development of events now will bring anything good to Ukraine. As Martin Luther King would say about Ukraine, I have a dream, have a dream...
 
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you need to wait a bit, now it’s not clear how everything will develop, it all depends on how the United States responds to Russia’s proposal. From this will be repelled by the development of events. I don't expect anything grandiose from these talks, I want at least a trend towards a tendency for relations between Russia and the United States to become at least a little warmer. But this is unlikely to happen. I put myself in the place of the American president and I understand that this is an unrealistic task that is now facing him.. What should I say to Putin?! On the one hand, a shame in their country, on the other hand, a possible third world war. This, of course, was not the choice that faced Kennedy then, but still ... And now we will fully understand what Biden is capable of as a politician, as a leader of the state. He had an opportunity to save the world.

As for the war with Ukraine. I put myself in Putin’s place and think: how to restore peace in the Donbas without the participation of Ukraine, if the United States does not make concessions in negotiations on global security and does not stop pumping Ukraine with weapons. I think that Putin will act very simply, he will officially announce the recognition of the LPR and DPR by Russia as a state. Then all members of the CSTO will do this, then the decision maker and the DPR will enter the CSTO. They will immediately ask for help, like Kazakhstan. Then the CSTO troops will arrive. The most important thing here is that the troops will not be Russian, the troops of the CSTO, they will be from the CSTO of Belarus or Kazakhstan. These troops will stand between the Ukrainian army and the Donetsk and Lugansk republics, as peacekeepers. Then no one will say that Russian troops are the key point.
This is the maximum that Putin will do, if the development of the scenario in the negotiations is unsuccessful for him.

Also, the war may flare up due to a petty provocation from one side or the other.. attempts of which, we see now. This is the worst scenario ever.

But what is most important is that none of the scenarios that are possible with the development of events now will bring anything good to Ukraine. As Martin Luther King would say about Ukraine, I have a dream, have a dream...
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This is by far the smartest analysis I've seen anywhere on the situation there. I think it could work to reduce tensions on all sides. Would this be a tolerable outcome for average Ukrainians? I know the government will complain but it does not always represent the people.
 
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Would this be a tolerable outcome for average Ukrainians?
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The average Ukrainian, who has at least a little brain in his head, understands that the war with Russia is suicide, he also understands that neither the US nor NATO will help Ukraine in this case, because everyone saw how the US and NATO .. in different directions .. fled from Afghanistan .. It was clear even from Ukraine that everyone saves .. his ass .. he doesn’t give a damn about the asses of others.

The average Ukrainian wants the war to end, the average Ukrainian, who thinks at least a little, understands with sadness .. that Donbas can no longer be returned for Ukraine .. He flatters himself with illusions, but understands that he is deceiving himself .. He also thought about Crimea in 2014 ... It was sad to tears .. sad from the loss!

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I know the government will complain
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There are three options for solving this problem:

the first is peacekeepers and complete independence under the patronage of the Russian Federation,

the second is autonomy within Ukraine,

the third is the complete return of Donbas to Ukraine.

The second option is the most acceptable and realistic option for Ukraine - these are the Minsk agreements - then they analyzed everything correctly and made the right decision all together - the most real solution, it is still relevant now! The key point here is - worship any god you like - just do not forget to pay taxes every month to Kiev - to the Ukrainian budget.

The third option is an IMPOSSIBLE option - because Ukraine has already adopted a law on those people who were not in the occupied territory and helped the Russian or illegal government - they will either be deported to Russia, if they want to stay, they will be limited in their rights - they will be like Jews in the Warsaw ghetto. Bro, I'm not kidding you now - it's true! Maybe a little hyperbole, nothing more! And what do you think, Bro, is option number 3 possible, if half of the population there already has Russian passports, they are issued there to whoever wants. If Ukrainian troops come, then these people will have to run to Russia in order not to end up in a ghetto or be deprived of their rights. Therefore, I reject this option a priori. And now the most interesting thing: Zelensky wants the situation to develop .. precisely according to the third scenario.))) HE intentionally wants something that cannot be and will never be, and he understands this very well.

The first option will be implemented if Biden and Putin do not agree, but this will not stop the war, unless it localizes a little .. The hot spot will remain there.
 
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The average Ukrainian, who has at least a little brain in his head, understands that the war with Russia is suicide, he also understands that neither the US nor NATO will help Ukraine in this case, because everyone saw how the US and NATO .. in different directions .. fled from Afghanistan .. It was clear even from Ukraine that everyone saves .. his ass .. he doesn’t give a damn about the asses of others.

The average Ukrainian wants the war to end, the average Ukrainian, who thinks at least a little, understands with sadness .. that Donbas can no longer be returned for Ukraine .. He flatters himself with illusions, but understands that he is deceiving himself .. He also thought about Crimea in 2014 ... It was sad to tears .. sad from the loss!


There are three options for solving this problem:

the first is peacekeepers and complete independence under the patronage of the Russian Federation,

the second is autonomy within Ukraine,

the third is the complete return of Donbas to Ukraine.

The second option is the most acceptable and realistic option for Ukraine - these are the Minsk agreements - then they analyzed everything correctly and made the right decision all together - the most real solution, it is still relevant now! The key point here is - worship any god you like - just do not forget to pay taxes every month to Kiev - to the Ukrainian budget.

The third option is an IMPOSSIBLE option - because Ukraine has already adopted a law on those people who were not in the occupied territory and helped the Russian or illegal government - they will either be deported to Russia, if they want to stay, they will be limited in their rights - they will be like Jews in the Warsaw ghetto. Bro, I'm not kidding you now - it's true! Maybe a little hyperbole, nothing more! And what do you think, Bro, is option number 3 possible, if half of the population there already has Russian passports, they are issued there to whoever wants. If Ukrainian troops come, then these people will have to run to Russia in order not to end up in a ghetto or be deprived of their rights. Therefore, I reject this option a priori. And now the most interesting thing: Zelensky wants the situation to develop .. precisely according to the third scenario.))) HE intentionally wants something that cannot be and will never be, and he understands this very well.

The first option will be implemented if Biden and Putin do not agree, but this will not stop the war, unless it localizes a little .. The hot spot will remain there.
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The United States will keep the pot boiling because it is in their interests to do so; lots of scary words about Russian invading to make excuses for $780 billion in military spending and the only ones who sure are locals.

The government of Ukraine, backed by the West, will do whatever the West tells it to. This isn't good for anyone in Ukraine.

I see Ukraine slowly being torn to pieces, each side gets to eat a little of it until there isn't much left.
 
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