Vertical kinda sucks
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DIRTHAWKER
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805 grams from 15 plants on a 14 day veg without blocking the 1kwatt which stressed them for the first week.
you running c02? If not, try running without the cool tube. Exhaust out the top of the tent at 2x a minute and place a fan on low setting under the bulb facing up.
Youd be suprised at how easy it is to keep cool. Those cool tubes (fool tubes) generate more heat then without.
Stonetech
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I've run horizontal with a hood, vertical with a cooltube, and vertical bare bulb. The horizontal hood, even when air cooled, was by far warmer at the canopy than the vertical setups, the hood seems to trap and/or conduct too much heat. The vertically oriented bulb allows the heat to naturally rise towards the exhaust.
The vert cooltube vs. bare bulb temps were pretty much the same at the canopy, so it was an easy decision to go bare bulb. No cool tube to rob lumens from the plants, no ducting to have to work around, no fan to cool it, just a low powered fan to gently blow up at the bulb and circulate air.
The vert cooltube vs. bare bulb temps were pretty much the same at the canopy, so it was an easy decision to go bare bulb. No cool tube to rob lumens from the plants, no ducting to have to work around, no fan to cool it, just a low powered fan to gently blow up at the bulb and circulate air.
DIRTHAWKER
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Yea its a no brainer, im running 2 bare 1ks vertical and my room never gets above 80.
Forgot to mention..this thread is lame. "Vertical kinda sucks' LMAO... If you think vertical sucks then why take the time to start a thread on it? I mean really? Vert isn't for everyone and it takes some time to learn the do's and dont's but the potential is there.
Forgot to mention..this thread is lame. "Vertical kinda sucks' LMAO... If you think vertical sucks then why take the time to start a thread on it? I mean really? Vert isn't for everyone and it takes some time to learn the do's and dont's but the potential is there.
Stonetech
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Yeah but you need to keep those things as clean as possible to keep them from blocking even more lumens which means your plants can't touch the tubes either.
Why would you want your plants to touch the tubes? Or even come close? That means your canopy management sucks, IMO...............I use "fooltubes" and for my application, they're perfect.
Nothing against bare bulbs, but running four stacked 600s, I LOVE my cooltube.
YMMV.
Nothing against bare bulbs, but running four stacked 600s, I LOVE my cooltube.
YMMV.
bboybojo
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I submit that if your plants are touching the tube/bulb, then they are too close, and you're not getting the benefits of the large canopy area you can achieve by having a greater number of plants further back. And large canopy area is the main reason people use vert isn't it?
I do have one question, my light is shining primarily on the middle 2/3 of my plants, but the top tips of the tallest 2 plants are not getting a huge amount of light. Do the leaves really work like solar panels generating growth in the whole plant, or will only the side branches that are getting the most light become the fat buds?
I am off to get some wire today and rearrange my tent so that i can move the plants as far back as possible, i didn't realise how much of a jungle this vert grow would become.
I do have one question, my light is shining primarily on the middle 2/3 of my plants, but the top tips of the tallest 2 plants are not getting a huge amount of light. Do the leaves really work like solar panels generating growth in the whole plant, or will only the side branches that are getting the most light become the fat buds?
I am off to get some wire today and rearrange my tent so that i can move the plants as far back as possible, i didn't realise how much of a jungle this vert grow would become.
i am 71% sure that without a cooltube and a 1k temps will get way too crazy!!, but i am gonna run a 600w bare bulb for the summer.
DIRTHAWKER
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With summer comin fast will leave it at that. It all depends on what part of the country yas in and ambient temps your exchangin in the room to keep things in check. I know my 2 1k bare bulbs will have to be dealt with soon. Exactly why i built a hybrid room, to run sealed with AC during summer time and open 2x a minute air exchange in winter.
If yas get a chance at some point ( maybe after summer) try it without the cool tube and see whats yas discover.
OGEvilgenius
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Or it means you're growing stretchy ass sativas and want to be able to leave for a few days at a time
I agree though that cooltubes aren't necessary and in fact hurt your end product.
OGEvilgenius
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Probably, different models are built differently. Have a look at yours and figure it out. A new socket is pretty damn cheap though for the record if you are lacking another.
kanx
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Personally if only one choice of lighting is allowed I would say vert has always been better for me, not to say a nice scrog horizontal wont kick ass. Just very always seamed to have more "luck" with vert.
However i've recently started running both vert and horizontal lighting , and i'm personally likeing what i'm seeing .
Gotta remember end of the day all we are trying to do is provide optimal light levels all over the room for our ladies,the plant dosnt care how you go about that , just so long as it has them.
All roads lead to rome.
However i've recently started running both vert and horizontal lighting , and i'm personally likeing what i'm seeing .
Gotta remember end of the day all we are trying to do is provide optimal light levels all over the room for our ladies,the plant dosnt care how you go about that , just so long as it has them.
All roads lead to rome.
ru4r34l
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Those results are quite achievable, just finished a Blueberry Gum test run that yielded just under 9oz dried to 55% from 3 weeks veg and 8 weeks flower under 400W.
Very nice grow indeed, time to get a 600W and harvest the lb.
regards,
