victims of feminism support thread

whitebb2727

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Yeah sure, it can be. Maybe I did offend someone by posting it and I would own that and apologize, not double down. It certainly does not encapsulate my views or arguments, so I wouldn't defend it. If someone even says something like "more is expected of me at work because I'm a white guy", they could grow out of it and live it down, as long as they don't continue to double down on it and get defensive about it. Anyone who spreads bigotry like that should be confronted because that is a chance to disavow it. Those guys in that thread were on a different trip though, especially the guy I was responding to. He was actually defending the institution of chattel slavery.
It was a serious question. Nothing meant. Just wondering what makes it right to say the N word, post offensive memes or praise Isis or Hitler in one situation but not a other.

You said if it did offend you would own it and not double down. It didn't or hasn't yet so ok.
 

abandonconflict

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It was a serious question. Nothing meant. Just wondering what makes it right to say the N word, post offensive memes or praise Isis or Hitler in one situation but not a other.

You said if it did offend you would own it and not double down. It didn't or hasn't yet so ok.
Yeah I know, I haven't gotten any indication from you that you ever mean anything more than what is plainly in your comments so I'm not reading anything between the lines. It is a valid question and the answer is that it should be confronted in any case but that conclusions are to be drawn from the ensuing exchange.

Someone might make a joke that others deem offensive or take offense to and the response is very telling. If they say "stop being a snowflake" or wind up a screed about this or that statistic to defend their view that standards apply differently because nature or simple defend what they said as something to the effect of "it's your problem I offend you, not mine", then they are probably a bigoted ass hole. If, however, they explain context and apologize while self criticizing, accepting that they have been ignorant, then they are just growing and likely want these problems to fade away from society.

Then there's the whole other dimension where you have these people trying to push the narrative and normalize blatantly offensive stuff. Some of them spout social darwinism or intentionally misrepresent the nuances of the problems in order to draw extreme conclusions. That thread is a perfect example. I went after the guy defending chattel slavery and got very little support for it. It is about as offensive and blatantly bigoted as any ahistoricism that has been introduced on the forum but four years on people are seeing the meme and none of the context.

@UncleBuck used the N word in quotation marks and everyone points to that, but completely ignores the racist manifesto by dr kynes about how multiculturalism will destroy the white race. They completely ignore what Ginwilly said about evolving from the neck up. They completely ignore Desert Dude defending the institution of chattel slavery. They instead focus on what they didn't like about the people combatting that hatred by taking something out of context.

So I'm glad you asked the question, because the answer should determine who is harboring incorrect and offensive ignorance and hatred. It requires thought and sincerity to answer. If anyone asks me, I would say that most people have been ignorant from time to time and most of us can grow past it. If I didn't believe that, I would not take the time to change anyone's mind. No progress will be made by simply excusing ignorance and accepting it as part of the dialogue.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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what is the non-jew hating context behind telling someone to "go back to fake jew school"?

The context is you keep twisting my words around and claiming they make me a racist and even a Nazi.

And you were talking about how Jewish you were with your new baby while you did it. To another person of a surviving holocaust family.

Even the statement you are quoting is isolated from the context it was in at the time. And you were doing this immature crap then too.

Your specific anxiety disorder is calling out for attention. Does your family know you resent them? Resent yourself?
 

schuylaar

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i don't have any hat. i don't support any party. i say what i think, and don't expect everyone to like it.i try to make decisions about politicians based on individual merit. the biggest problem with that method is finding any merit to asses.
i believe i said i don't support harassment of any kind, from either sex. i also said that if this happens to you, say something at the time, and i'll be the first one to offer support....say something ten years later, and wtf do you want me to do? how are you going to prove it? one of the tenets of our legal system is that someone is not guilty simply because someone accuses them of something, they are not guilty till it's proven. its a fuckload easier to prove when it just happened...
if only life were perfect..if only i didn't get on the elevator with my boss..if only i didn't get into the car with my friend who invited me to do a line.. if only my 8 year old girl would've said something about the 12 year old boy..why did she 'just' cry?..i asked. if only..we all said something 'at the time'..if only it were that easy..if only we lived the sheltered life you apparently have..if only..
 
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TacoMac

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if only life were perfect..if only i didn't get on the elevator with my boss..if only i didn't get into the car with my friend who invited me to do a line.. if only my 8 year old girl would've said something about the 12 year old boy..why did she 'just' cry?..i asked. if only..we all said something 'at the time'..if only it were that easy..if only we lived the sheltered life you apparently have..if only..
You type a list of YOUR bad decisions and lack of action and that's supposed to do what, exactly?

That's the entire point he made: Just because YOU make bad decisions and then completely fail to act to fix them or at the very least mitigate them in some way does NOT make it EVERYBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM.

You're just like the people you "claim" to hate: a person that sits on their ass, makes bad decisions, does absolutely nothing to help themselves, then blames everybody else for their failed and miserable life.

Butch up. Take some responsibility. Stop making excuses.

It has nothing to do with "living a sheltered life". It has EVERYTHING to do with ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS, or the lack thereof.

Roger is right. You are wrong. End of story.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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if only life were perfect..if only i didn't get on the elevator with my boss..if only i didn't get into the car with my friend who invited me to do a line.. if only my 8 year old girl would've said something about the 12 year old boy..why did she 'just' cry?..i asked. if only..we all said something 'at the time'..if only it were that easy..if only we lived the sheltered life you apparently have..if only..
well, it's been nice speaking to you Shuylaar, i'll be ignoring you now. you are one of those people who can just manufacture someone elses life in your own head, then treat them accordingly. you've already lived my life, made my choices, and judged me, so there's nothing else for us to say to each other...good bye.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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ya mean, these words of yours, which are verbatim?


"go back to fake jew school"

"try copping drugs in the city with a white face. they will arrest you and leave the black"

You mean cut out of full comments that were part of a multi comment conversation.

Maybe a bigger bolder font will make you right?

You are a loser dude. You should just finally keep quiet. You have nothing worthwhile to say anymore. Just projected anger and ignorance.

Obviously few people here like you. And they seem to all be your sock puppets.

Worst part is when you started all this for yourself with me I was agreeing with you. And I rarely agree with crybaby Americans.

Poor crybaby Bucky. When trump gets re-elected remember you had more to do with it than most here. You just keep forcing people to take sides against you and your beliefs.

And you are a fake Jew. You don’t share anything with us but a marriage license. Sorry but you are always going to be a fake Jew. The papers just mean you are a kept convert.

And who the hell wants to pretend their Jewish?

I love my partner and she was raised Christian. So we have a Christmas tree for her holiday. But I sure don’t pretend I believe in Jesus for her or her family.

You are a weak man buck. A phony. An armchair intellectual at best.

A bigot at your worst.
 

UncleBuck

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You mean cut out of full comments that were part of a multi comment conversation.

Maybe a bigger bolder font will make you right?

You are a loser dude. You should just finally keep quiet. You have nothing worthwhile to say anymore. Just projected anger and ignorance.

Obviously few people here like you. And they seem to all be your sock puppets.

Worst part is when you started all this for yourself with me I was agreeing with you. And I rarely agree with crybaby Americans.

Poor crybaby Bucky. When trump gets re-elected remember you had more to do with it than most here. You just keep forcing people to take sides against you and your beliefs.

And you are a fake Jew. You don’t share anything with us but a marriage license. Sorry but you are always going to be a fake Jew. The papers just mean you are a kept convert.

And who the hell wants to pretend their Jewish?

I love my partner and she was raised Christian. So we have a Christmas tree for her holiday. But I sure don’t pretend I believe in Jesus for her or her family.

You are a weak man buck. A phony. An armchair intellectual at best.

A bigot at your worst.


it's ok baby, don't cry. shhhhhhhhhhh
 

schuylaar

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How is it ok for abandon to do it but not gwn?

I'm sure blacks would be offended.

I don't see gwn repeating that. I'm sure we all have said offensive stuff. I have. You have.

I see it as something that happened in an argument. In politics none the less.

I've seen you use the N word more than anyone else on here. Its ok though?

I lived in the ghetto. Got to be friends with blacks and Hispanics. I've seen them use some pretty bad racial slurs with each other.

I'm not saying that gives me or anyone else the right to do it.

I'm not going to argue about it. You are entitled to think what you think. I just wanted to say I don't think gwn is racist. I've said offense shit I regret. We all have.

bucky wants to 'cleanse'..where have we heard that lately? where have we heard it in the past?
 

UncleBuck

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Lol. That’s the best you got. You keep repeating it on every thread as soon as you look stupid. Which is pretty much always right away.

Not just weak uncle buck. Now pathetic.

Go away. No one likes you here.
"go back to fake jew school"

"try copping drugs in the city with white face. the cops will arrest you and leave the black"
 

Chunky Stool

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You mean cut out of full comments that were part of a multi comment conversation.

Maybe a bigger bolder font will make you right?

You are a loser dude. You should just finally keep quiet. You have nothing worthwhile to say anymore. Just projected anger and ignorance.

Obviously few people here like you. And they seem to all be your sock puppets.

Worst part is when you started all this for yourself with me I was agreeing with you. And I rarely agree with crybaby Americans.

Poor crybaby Bucky. When trump gets re-elected remember you had more to do with it than most here. You just keep forcing people to take sides against you and your beliefs.

And you are a fake Jew. You don’t share anything with us but a marriage license. Sorry but you are always going to be a fake Jew. The papers just mean you are a kept convert.

And who the hell wants to pretend their Jewish?

I love my partner and she was raised Christian. So we have a Christmas tree for her holiday. But I sure don’t pretend I believe in Jesus for her or her family.

You are a weak man buck. A phony. An armchair intellectual at best.

A bigot at your worst.
Do you eat bacon?
Just curious.
My wife claims to be a vegetarian, but she still eats bacon... :roll:
 
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