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shaggyballs

Well-Known Member
If cannabis is legal you will not be able to provide yourself with medicine.

You will be force to pay top dollar for whatever the state approve grower wants to grow and all the competition is gone so he will not have to provide a quality product if he so chooses.

It has already started!!

In Washington and Colorado

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1158

What about in Canada?

We are next!
Canada - Government Threatens To Share Medicinal Marijuana Patient Information
Health Canada has warned it will share with law enforcement the private information of citizens in lawful possession of medicinal marijuana unless they comply with a new order within six weeks’ time. Today (March 14), the federal government posted a notice online stating that medicinal-marijuana licence holders are required to destroy all marijuana they have and provide written notice stating that they “no longer possess marijuana (dried marijuana, plants or seeds) obtained under the old program”.

“If participants do not comply with the requirement to notify Health Canada, the Department will notify law enforcement,” the release states. Licence holders have until April 30, 2014, to meet the terms of the order. Another Health Canada website provides vague details on the consequences of not complying with the new directive. "The Department will take compliance and enforcement action," it states. "This includes informing law enforcement of your failure to notify Health Canada as required under section 259.3 of the MMPR. In addition, the Department will continue to cooperate with police, and provide information needed to protect public safety, as appropriate." A “notification form” is available for download on the Health Canada website. There are more than 16,500 British Columbians licensed to possess medicinal marijuana. When the Conservatives’ new Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulation takes effect on April 1, licence holders will only be allowed to purchase dried cannabis via mail order.

The Health Canada directive issued today—on a Friday afternoon when government officials know media outlets are least likely to report it—contradicts information included in a September 2013 briefing note prepared for B.C. Attorney General and Minister of Justice Suzanne Anton. “Health Canada, citing privacy concerns, does not intend to disclose the addresses of former licensed grow operations once they are no longer permitted to legally grow marijuana,” that memo states. It’s unclear what has changed that has led Health Canada to believe it can turn over the information of citizens licensed to possess medicinal marijuana without violating individuals’ privacy.

For months, Health Canada has refused the Georgia Straight’s repeated requests for an interview on the topic of the new rules governing medicinal marijuana. A message left today requesting clarification on the March 14 notice was not returned. In a media release, Sensible B.C. campaign director Dana Larsen called for demonstrations against the Health Canada order. “Patients across Canada registered with Health Canada in good faith, to protect themselves against arrest for cultivating their own medicine,” Larsen said in the release. “Now they are being threatened with police action if they don’t destroy their perfectly good medication.”

Stay aware!!
Or suffer the consequence.

shag
 

LIBERTYCHICKEN

Well-Known Member
I generaly agree with what your saying ,

The trouble lyes with the term 'legal' , Many are campaining for MJ to be a scheduled substance in the US

100% legal to own, grow, sell or nothing
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
If cannabis is legal you will not be able to provide yourself with medicine.

You will be force to pay top dollar for whatever the state approve grower wants to grow and all the competition is gone so he will not have to provide a quality product if he so chooses.

It has already started!!

In Washington and Colorado

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1158

What about in Canada?

We are next!
Canada - Government Threatens To Share Medicinal Marijuana Patient Information
Health Canada has warned it will share with law enforcement the private information of citizens in lawful possession of medicinal marijuana unless they comply with a new order within six weeks’ time. Today (March 14), the federal government posted a notice online stating that medicinal-marijuana licence holders are required to destroy all marijuana they have and provide written notice stating that they “no longer possess marijuana (dried marijuana, plants or seeds) obtained under the old program”.

“If participants do not comply with the requirement to notify Health Canada, the Department will notify law enforcement,” the release states. Licence holders have until April 30, 2014, to meet the terms of the order. Another Health Canada website provides vague details on the consequences of not complying with the new directive. "The Department will take compliance and enforcement action," it states. "This includes informing law enforcement of your failure to notify Health Canada as required under section 259.3 of the MMPR. In addition, the Department will continue to cooperate with police, and provide information needed to protect public safety, as appropriate." A “notification form” is available for download on the Health Canada website. There are more than 16,500 British Columbians licensed to possess medicinal marijuana. When the Conservatives’ new Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulation takes effect on April 1, licence holders will only be allowed to purchase dried cannabis via mail order.

The Health Canada directive issued today—on a Friday afternoon when government officials know media outlets are least likely to report it—contradicts information included in a September 2013 briefing note prepared for B.C. Attorney General and Minister of Justice Suzanne Anton. “Health Canada, citing privacy concerns, does not intend to disclose the addresses of former licensed grow operations once they are no longer permitted to legally grow marijuana,” that memo states. It’s unclear what has changed that has led Health Canada to believe it can turn over the information of citizens licensed to possess medicinal marijuana without violating individuals’ privacy.

For months, Health Canada has refused the Georgia Straight’s repeated requests for an interview on the topic of the new rules governing medicinal marijuana. A message left today requesting clarification on the March 14 notice was not returned. In a media release, Sensible B.C. campaign director Dana Larsen called for demonstrations against the Health Canada order. “Patients across Canada registered with Health Canada in good faith, to protect themselves against arrest for cultivating their own medicine,” Larsen said in the release. “Now they are being threatened with police action if they don’t destroy their perfectly good medication.”

Stay aware!!
Or suffer the consequence.

shag


stop spreading misinfomation.

it's legal here in colorado and i have no problem growing my own.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I generaly agree with what your saying ,

The trouble lyes with the term 'legal' , Many are campaining for MJ to be a scheduled substance in the US

100% legal to own, grow, sell or nothing
every commodity that is sold is taxed and regulated, from peas to carrots.

intoxicants are even more heavily taxed and regulated. cannabis will be no different.

deal with it.
 

LIBERTYCHICKEN

Well-Known Member
every commodity that is sold is taxed and regulated, from peas to carrots.

intoxicants are even more heavily taxed and regulated. cannabis will be no different.

deal with it.

Yes but if it's made a scheduled substance (likely) It will be subject to some very heavy regulations , just like opiates and amphmetines , on top of all the regulation on the states levels . This could likely stop the recreational sales in CO and WA, home grows ect.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Yes but if it's made a scheduled substance (likely) It will be subject to some very heavy regulations , just like opiates and amphmetines , on top of all the regulation on the states levels . This could likely stop the recreational sales in CO and WA, home grows ect.
i weep for the republic.

cannabis already is a schedule 1 substance.
 

MarijuanaBug

Well-Known Member
im sorry, old i know i know. but where did you hear this ridiculous load of sun-baked ass hole? quit telling potheads that pot should be illegal. if a grower wants to hike up his prices, then he wont be in business for long. most ppl on here grow there own illegally. if a legal dealer sells crap. smokers will just keep growin there own. we been growing for years illegally you think were soo scared were gonna buy oz for $600.
Hahaha i dont think soo.
 

oldman60

Well-Known Member
Been growing my own for longer than most of you have been alive (47yr's)
and under Rockefeller's law.
In NY now if you have a few plants you
get a ticket and loose your equipment.
I don't care what they do just leave me alone, and I do use medicinally
so does my son (MS).
Nothing against dealers but I come from a time when you shared your weed
with your friends not sold it.(John Kay said it best "the dealer is the man with
the love grass in his hand god damn the pusher man")
Love your weed, love your friends, keep on toke'in, Stay positive
stay high
 
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Scotch089

Well-Known Member
It should eventually come off the schedule 1 list, the list is defined as highly addictive and no medicinal value. That's being proven wrong every day. Sadly, pot is up there with cocaine and heroine ( think they are sched 1's too, don't hold me to it) but the medical value should, will eventually put a fire under the federal asses and at least downgrade it.

Decriminalize, not legalize. If they do legalize, they need to go all in or not at all, or, SERIOUS medical laws for ppl who really need it, I'm a rec user and feel horrible the ppl that really need it can't have it.
 

oldman60

Well-Known Member
It should eventually come off the schedule 1 list, the list is defined as highly addictive and no medicinal value. That's being proven wrong every day. Sadly, pot is up there with cocaine and heroine ( think they are sched 1's too, don't hold me to it) but the medical value should, will eventually put a fire under the federal asses and at least downgrade it.

Decriminalize, not legalize. If they do legalize, they need to go all in or not at all, or, SERIOUS medical laws for ppl who really need it, I'm a rec user and feel horrible the ppl that really need it can't have it.
As long as we have lobbyists and crooked politicians we are going to have problems.
We need a strong concerted effort with enough money and influence to fight the
liquor and pharmaceutical lobbys, and my friend that's a lot of money! or maybe
have a President who has a child with, god forbid extreme seizure disorder or
like my son, aggressive MS and be forced to watch him live in agony.
I totally agree with absolute decriminalization without prejudice.
Right now I can't smoke weed because I'm on opiate therapy and in this state
you have to sign an agreement not to use any substance not prescribed by your Dr.
( piss test) this is enforced by the DEA. So if my Dr. allowed his patients to use MMJ he could
have his medical license pulled and he is sympathetic with us and thinks MMJ has a
place in pain medicine but can't allow us to use it.
Sorry I jumped on my soap box but this prejudice toward MMJ gets me pissed off.
So in closing my friend, keep the faith and hope for better days to come.
:peace:
 

Melytra

Member
I agree with some of the other members who have posted. Even if legalized/decriminalized, seeds will still be available from around the world. If MJ is illegal, this activity can get someone in big trouble. If legal/decrim, we can grow all we want and have a personal connection to the medicine we use. In regards to obtaining it from a dispensary, I agree that it will likely be taxed and regulated (being in a non-medical state I have no personal experience with this). But, there will likely be so many dispensaries popping up (like in CA when it first became medicinally legal), that the principles of capitalism will operate in the same manner as with any other product that is offered. If the weed is of poor quality, overpriced, or both, a cannabis user can shop around for the ideal MMJ the same way they would for anything else. The only people I can see getting seriously pissed about legalization are those who sell marijuana in the shade for very high prices (it being expensive simply because of the rarity/difficulty in obtaining it). Legalization removes the danger and much of the stigmatization of using this plant.
*Side note: I am young and new to the cannabis community. If I said anything incorrect or naive please feel free to educate me.
 

shaggyballs

Well-Known Member
According to many states CBD oil is a felony without a perscription.
Even under legalization when big pharma has there own CBD oil approved you will go to prison for making selling and using it without a perscription.

Legalization is changing things fast, Corporate Cannabis is here.
Hang on to personal growing rights, they already tried to repeal them here in Michigan.
 
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