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Rob Roy

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People who consistently vote are the only real threat a politician has to worry about
Consider the bigger picture. If you get rid of one douche bag politician another pops right back up.

People who consistently vote maintain the political process. (that's a bad thing) Individual political thieves come and go.

The political process itself, is what perpetually enslaves you. It's freakishly normalized democide, theft thru inflation, and reduced people to unthinking subjects thru indoctrination and well placed propaganda / fear. It is a modern day method of slavery, with corn syrup and Netflix.

When more people grasp the idea that the whole thing is a human livestock scenario politicians as a class of people will worry.
 

dandyrandy

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So this is a vote for a sinking fund millage proposal for a local public school. 1.6 mills, the revenue the school will collect if the millage passes is approximately $490,000

Hmmmm, part of me says hell no. I don't even any have kids, why should I help the school?. I already pay enough property taxes. Schools already get money from the state lottery.

Other part of me says, schools always need all the help they can get. It's for the kids, maybe it will help get computers or something to help them learn. Is an extra $1.60 on each $1000 taxable valuation really going to break me? Maybe it would help buy sports equipment for the kids?


Decisions, decisions.....

I'm going to have another drink and contemplate
What I have seen in our school system is lots of highly educated and paid teachers. A school with ~2000 kids has a Dr. for a principal. Salary north of 150k. I don't think we need this in a county who has half of the people making 25k a year. Or less. Nothing against the good Dr. But if you eat steak on a bean budget you go bankrupt like Trump. Now Christian schools around here are different. Lots more money coming in not just from tuition. Numerous churches here help support the christian schools. They used to help the county schools before they dropped prayer. Now they have an agenda. Just like catholics. Actually all religions. No catholics here. They are of the devil. Ask any evangelical. Trump's spiritual man said so. Crazy shit.
 

Rob Roy

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What I have seen in our school system is lots of Crazy shit.
Fixed it for you.

Schools which acquire funding thru force cannot possibly teach children that bullying is bad. That's like having a rapist teach a class on manners.

Start there or forever be a sad obedient turd polisher.
 

UncleBuck

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Education is like rape. Bill gates wants to kill me if I don’t take his vaccine. 12 year old boys can consent to my sexual advances.
 

Rob Roy

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12 year old boys can consent to my sexual advances.
Bullying schools ? Forcing unwilling people to give something up on an involuntary basis is like rape. Because it's not consensual.

Bill Gates wants to use your stolen money to pay enforcers to force people to follow his plan.

How will you access the 12 year old boys minds and bodies now Uncle Badman ? Since government middle schools are shut down to serve the greater propaganda programs aligned with Corona virus.
 

Chief_Broom

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When more people grasp the idea that the whole thing is a human livestock scenario politicians as a class of people will worry.
If only there was a mechanism in place where the people could effectively communicate their will to politicians. You know a mechanism that wasn’t some meaningless exercise like posting on the internet but that actually resulted in politicians being removed from office.
 

Rob Roy

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If only there was a mechanism in place where the people could effectively communicate their will to politicians. You know a mechanism that wasn’t some meaningless exercise like posting on the internet but that actually resulted in politicians being removed from office.
Communicating your individual will or your collective will to master, doesn't do much. The reason why is government holds a forcible monopoly. It doesn't matter if you dislike their alleged services. There is no other entity allowed to compete with them. They will kill people who don't comply with them, since there "services" are not optional. If you have a monopoly and nobody else is allowed to provide some of the same services, it doesn't matter if your customers are satisfied or not.

For example in the little bit that remains of the freeish market, if you don't like grocery store or hardware store x, you can communicate that by using grocery store Y or hardware store Y.

That feedback sends a message to a service provider to do a better job at keeping customers satisfied or risk losing them. A free market aligns interests of seller and buyer on a PEACEFUL and voluntary basis. A government aligns it's interests with it's own continuity and further consolidation of control and power, using involuntary means and threats of violence for noncompliance. That's not speculation, it's a fact.

It's not meaningless to post ideas, since most people are under the false impression that "government works for them" until that demonstrably false idea is eradicated, by encouraging others to use critical thinking, nothing will change. You can't shoot the truth. But if the truth is buried it has to be more widely known before anything significant changes.
 

hanimmal

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If only there was a mechanism in place where the people could effectively communicate their will to politicians. You know a mechanism that wasn’t some meaningless exercise like posting on the internet but that actually resulted in politicians being removed from office.
Or even better, one that also allows people to try to put their beliefs into action and running for the office they think they could do their best work for the people in.
 

Rob Roy

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Or even better, one that also allows people to try to put their beliefs into action and running for the office they think they could do their best work for the people in.
I don't mean to attack you, so I won't.

But your post is fraught with tired platitude. Most people don't run for office to help others, and the few that do with those intentions are easily marginalized by the other pigs who don't want to lose their spot at the trough. But that's not the biggest problem.

It's not the individual actors in the system, it's the system itself. It's business model begins with a threat, which means it is a system based not in protection of peoples freedom, rather in intimidation, indoctrination and removal of freedom of people. Those means will never yield positive results and there is no fixing it. It's like a woman saying "my marriage is fine, but of course he still beats me, for my own good".

The Pentagon has never been audited, billions go missing....crickets. Hello?

The United State imprisons the most people in the world, most of them for victimless crimes.

Regularly attacks other places using false flags to enrich private banks and corporations. Shamelessly use young people in the military as their cannon fodder. Ho hum.

Wages wars against it's own populace via prohibition, and people STILL say stupid meaningless shit like, "thank you for your service" etc.
to the people that are used to keep them subservient. Priceless inanity right there.

There is a good reason why trust in government is at an all time low. When more people realize replacing the actors from time to time does nothing and their votes are almost always meaningless, then see what happens.
 
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hanimmal

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I don't mean to attack you, so I won't.

But your post is fraught with tired platitude. Most people don't run for office to help others, and the few that do with those intentions are easily marginalized by the other pigs who don't want to lose their spot at the trough. But that's not the biggest problem.

It's not the individual actors in the system, it's the system itself. It's business model begins with a threat, which means it is a system based not in protection of peoples freedom, rather in intimidation, indoctrination and removal of freedom of people. Those means will never yield positive results and there is no fixing it. It's like a woman saying "my marriage is fine, but of course he still beats me, for my own good".

The Pentagon has never been audited, billions go missing....crickets. Hello?

The United State imprisons the most people in the world, most of them for victimless crimes.

Regularly attacks other places using false flags to enrich private banks and corporations. Shamelessly use young people in the military as their cannon fodder. Ho hum.

Wages wars against it's own populace via prohibition, and people STILL say stupid meaningless shit like, "thank you for your service" etc.
to the people that are used to keep them subservient. Priceless inanity right there.

There is a good reason why trust in government is at an all time low. When more people realize replacing the actors from time to time does nothing and their votes are almost always meaningless, then see what happens.
I don't buy it. Sounds good and edgy, and would likely get a lot of nodding heads in a room full of smoked out college kids and a lot of 'hell yeahs' in a group full of revolutionaries.
 

Rob Roy

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I don't buy it. Sounds good and edgy, and would likely get a lot of nodding heads in a room full of smoked out college kids and a lot of 'hell yeahs' in a group full of revolutionaries.
Aww shucks, it was a 3 gummy bear induced rant.

Which part is inaccurate and why is it inaccurate ?

Colleges ? Aren't they closed, due to the Panicdemic scare ? I do like your imagery though.

I am an Evolutionist, not a revolutionist. Meaning, for mankind to continue in a meaningful way, ideas based in truth should proliferate. The first step towards doing that is to examine what really occurs in the present and be honest about it. If a peaceful world is the goal (it's my goal) peaceful means should be the default means.

A revolutionist usually wants to knock off the master and then BECOME the master. That is the problem, systems based in the initiation of aggression are not sustainable. We, humanity, are in the throes of that now. No thanks.
 

hanimmal

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Aww shucks, it was a 3 gummy bear induced rant.

Which part is inaccurate and why is it inaccurate ?

Colleges ? Aren't they closed, due to the Panicdemic scare ? I do like your imagery though.

I am an Evolutionist, not a revolutionist. Meaning, for mankind to continue in a meaningful way, ideas based in truth should proliferate. The first step towards doing that is to examine what really occurs in the present and be honest about it. If a peaceful world is the goal (it's my goal) peaceful means should be the default means.

A revolutionist usually wants to knock off the master and then BECOME the master. That is the problem, systems based in the initiation of aggression are not sustainable. We, humanity, are in the throes of that now. No thanks.
I have to go wash groceries. I will be back to read whatever twisty tail you weaved.
 

Chief_Broom

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It's not the individual actors in the system, it's the system itself. It's business model begins with a threat, which means it is a system based not in protection of peoples freedom, rather in intimidation, indoctrination and removal of freedom of people. Those means will never yield positive results and there is no fixing it. It's like a woman saying "my marriage is fine, but of course he still beats me, for my own good".
The simplest means to effecting positive change in our society is to use the mechanisms we have in place for doing just that. A powerful indicator that this mechanism (everyone votes every time) can be used for this purpose is the fear politicians have of allowing everyone to have an equal say in how the government, and through it our society, is run. Trump recently was quoted saying that if it were easier to vote then republicans would never be elected again. While I believe there is truth to that statement I think it is sadly telling that the republican answer to that threat isn’t to change in order to appeal to more people but rather to marginalize an disenfranchise those who don’t agree with their ideology. Very short sighted on their part considering there won’t be white majority in America much longer and this is what is fueling so much of the fear and resentment we see in America today. We as a nation are divided not because of any differences between us but because of our ineffectual leaders who are unable to retain power except through promoting such imagined differences.
 

londonfog

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Fixed it for you.

Schools which acquire funding thru force cannot possibly teach children that bullying is bad. That's like having a rapist teach a class on manners.

Start there or forever be a sad obedient turd polisher.
but you sent your kids to a public school. How do you think that was paid for ? I would argue about some of the bullshit that is taught, but I don't throw the baby out with the bath water
 

Rob Roy

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but you sent your kids to a public school. How do you think that was paid for ? I would argue about some of the bullshit that is taught, but I don't throw the baby out with the bath water
With money taken from people whether they consented or not. To continue a program to indoctrinate people not to ponder these kinds of things, but to blindly obey them.

Never shake a baby!
 
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