Want to help me clone?

budLIFE60

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image.jpg image.jpg So my cloning game needs some improvement. If i take 10 cuts maybe 3-4 make it on a good day. Not the best right? And as of right now i have 5 honey banana clones that im trying to root on day 4. So id like to share my process and hopefully shed some light on what it is i need to adjust. Please share anything that will help with my clones!


Ok so i start by taking clones that are about 6" tall with 3 nodes that are near the bottom of the plant. I cut them with a razor at a 45 degree angle and stick them in some water and let them sit for a few minutes. Next i dip them in some Rootstock organic rooting gel (i keep everything organic.) then i plant them in some straight, pre soaked coco and cut all the leaves in half. I then put them in a clear storage container, spray the leaves and all around the storage bin and cover the top with clear plastic wrap. I set them about 6 inches under my 2bulb t5 light on 18/6.

My humidity stays from 70%-90%
I spray my clones once in the morning and once at night every day and let them vent a little every other day.

What can i do to up my game? Thanks!
 

brimck325

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Wipe everything down with ISO. Cut at a 45 just before the gel, but scrape the bottom inch or so of the cut too. Stop spraying the cuts, spray the underside of your clear plastic. Open lid little at a time after 2-3 days.
 

PKHydro

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Score your stems up a bit before dipping them in your rooting gel. I make 3-4 little cuts on either side of the stem then dip.
 

budLIFE60

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Hey thanks for the tips guys i will try scoring the stems and only spray the container not the plants from now on!
 

Skuzzy

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Copied this from a PDF I found (and lost), so can't take any credit and only wish I could give credit to the original author: Maybe something will strike a chord with as the reason for your troubles:



Use a sharp disinfected blade or scissors to make a 45-degree cut across firm, healthy 0.125-0.25- inch-wide (3-6 mm) growth. When cutting, make the slice halfway between the sets of nodes. The new clones should be two to four inches (3-5 cm) long. Be careful not to crush the end of the stem where cutting.

Carefully trim off two or three sets of flower leaves. Cut them off at the nodes where they meet the stem. Clones root very well when there are one or two sets of trimmed nodes below ground and two sets of leaves above the soil line. While taking clones, hold cuttings in a glass of water until you are ready to dip in hormone and plant.

Cut leaves in half to lower transpiration surface and to keep them from overlapping. Moisture that could promote fungus is often trapped between overlapping leaves. Gather leaves in your hand and use a pair of scissors to cut the leaves in half. This will allow less surface area for the plants to breathe, but will still keep foliage on the plant. Cutting leaves like this will keep them up off the ground, which helps prevent rot and disease.

Choose an effective rooting tools or mediums. Saturate the medium or root cubes with water. Use an unsharpened pencil, chop stick, nail, etc., to make a hole in the rooting medium, a little larger than the stem of the clone. The hole should stop about one-half inch (1.5 cm) from the bottom of the container to allow for root growth.

Use Rooting Hormone. Always read and comply with the directions. Make sure the part that will go underground is covered evenly. When planting, take special care to gently pack soil into place.

Pre-water the rooting medium lightly and keep the surface evenly moist at all times. The first few days are the most critical for moisture. Clones have no roots to bring water to leaves. Water arrives from leaves and the cut stem until roots can supply it. Water as needed to keep growing medium evenly moist. Do not let it get soggy, and if it does, remove water at once.

Give all the clones enough hours light like 18-24 hours. At less intensity than you would veg. Control by increasing distance to bulbs.

Give clones 95-100 percent humidity the first two days after cutting. These are the most critical days for a clone to get over the shock of being cut. Gradually reduce the humidity to 80-85 percent after the first three to four days. A humidity dome or tent will help keep humidity high. Construct the tent out of plastic bags, rigid plastic, or glass.

Make sure to leave openings for air to flow in and out of the dome so little clones can breathe. Remove any sick, rotting, or dead foliage. Keep leaves up off the rooting medium. support the clone if necessary.

Ifthe growing medium is a few degrees warmer than the air temperature root growth speeds. A warmer substrate increases underground chemical activity, and lower air temperature slows water loss through leaves. For best results, keep the rooting medium at 24°-27°C. Growing medium temperatures above 29°C may cause root damage. Keep the air temperature 3°C cooler than the substrate.

Ideally none of the clones will wilt or loose rigidity. In the beginning you may have some clones that wilt but become rigid in a few days. Clones that are still wilted after seven days will grow slowly or develop a problem. Set them aside and let them root longer. If they continue to root slowly or show signs of rot at the soil line, toss them out.

The new root system will sprout from the buried stem in one to three weeks. In 10-21 days you should see roots growing out the sides of rooting cubes if used. Signals that roots have started to grow include yellow leaf tips, roots growing out drain holes, and vertical growth of the clones. To check for root growth in flats or pots, carefully remove the root ball and clone from the pot to see if it has good root development.

Clones usually look strong and healthy soon after you take them. After five or six days, leaves may start to change color. Leaves stay small and often turn a deeper shade of green. After about a week, lower leaves may start to yellow if their nutrient levels dissipate. These clones are using all their resources to conserve moisture and grow new roots. Some dieback in lower leaves is not a sign the plant is dying. Any sign of slime, pests, or disease means there are problems, and clones should be removed from the garden.

Transplant only the strongest well-rooted clones with a dense root system growing out the sides and bottom of rooting cubes. Do not transplant slow-rooting clones or clones with a small root system. Keep slow-growing clones rooting until adequate roots have developed.
 

vtmaster

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buddy ...take that stemp n dip it in water....these complex methods infact ruins ur clone if ur nt use to it....

try dis simple method n it works 9/10 for me...
take the cutting cut at 45degree lik u said ...take a set of 3 leaf node clone and make sure the stemp length is around 2-3 inches ..and as soon as u cut it ...dip the cutting side in plain simple water atleast an inch deep.. .....THATS IT !!?!?! n ur clones are ready in 10-14 days .....jus refill up the water in the container everyday or 2 ...n evry 5 days change the water..
i do this way all the time n works great ...
if u still wanna try n save ur clones from wilting and dying away...if nt dead yet ...take out ur clone n dip the cutting in water...within 3-4 hours it ll b back to normal ...
 

budLIFE60

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buddy ...take that stemp n dip it in water....these complex methods infact ruins ur clone if ur nt use to it....

try dis simple method n it works 9/10 for me...
take the cutting cut at 45degree lik u said ...take a set of 3 leaf node clone and make sure the stemp length is around 2-3 inches ..and as soon as u cut it ...dip the cutting side in plain simple water atleast an inch deep.. .....THATS IT !!?!?! n ur clones are ready in 10-14 days .....jus refill up the water in the container everyday or 2 ...n evry 5 days change the water..
i do this way all the time n works great ...
if u still wanna try n save ur clones from wilting and dying away...if nt dead yet ...take out ur clone n dip the cutting in water...within 3-4 hours it ll b back to normal ...
Good stuff, i will be giving this a try on the two sad clones. Apprecaite the help!
 

vtmaster

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Good stuff, i will be giving this a try on the two sad clones. Apprecaite the help!
n y did u cut ur leaf edges ...during cloning leaves are where they get their nutrients from so cutting of leaves is like throwing away their nutes n solar panel which also makes food for them n inturn helps it to root faster.....lemme know if u could save ur clones....here are some pix i hav which i did recently https://www.rollitup.org/t/clones-are-they-gonna-make-it.873643/#post-11661847
 

upnsmoke13

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I had one grow under my belt, never tried hydro/bubble, and never cloned anything! Built the $20 cloner per instructions - now I can cut a branch, cut it @45*, split the end and have roots in 5-10 days. It's easier than I ever thought!
 

budLIFE60

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n y did u cut ur leaf edges ...during cloning leaves are where they get their nutrients from so cutting of leaves is like throwing away their nutes n solar panel which also makes food for them n inturn helps it to root faster.....lemme know if u could save ur clones....here are some pix i hav which i did recently https://www.rollitup.org/t/clones-are-they-gonna-make-it.873643/#post-11661847
Ive just always read to do this, it said the cutting will force more energy to root that way? I will definitely be giving your way a try though! You dont use anybroot hormone or anything?
 

budLIFE60

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I had one grow under my belt, never tried hydro/bubble, and never cloned anything! Built the $20 cloner per instructions - now I can cut a branch, cut it @45*, split the end and have roots in 5-10 days. It's easier than I ever thought!
Hey thanks ive seen these around i will try this out as well!
 

caveman117

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For me the best way to clone is using peat pellets (jiffy pellets) pretty much just take a cut scrape off the flesh at the bottom and cut a45. DIp in root tone and put in the pellet, squeeze pellet around cut to drain excess water amd snug it to the cut.

They then go in a seedling dome until rooted. I get 9/10 rooted ussually they all root but every once in a while I'll lose a weak or amaged cut.

Only thing u have to do is watch thepeat ppellet, if it gets to dry I justput a few drops oof water on it.
Ussually if I need to drop water on them they root the day after I do it idk why.
 

upnsmoke13

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This was so simple, I made another to have for water changes - every 7 days. I'll take the lid off the old can, take my air hoses off the pump, put the lid on a fresh can, hook up the hoses, turn on and go wash and dry all the old stuff - i would not come back to it! Done. No nutes, no phing, just filtered water from my fridge's door after it was room temp.
 

vtmaster

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Ive just always read to do this, it said the cutting will force more energy to root that way? I will definitely be giving your way a try though! You dont use anybroot hormone or anything?
bro..nothing...u dont need anything other than a cup of water to dip ur stems in...well this method is an old ancient method when ppl first learn the art of cloning 1000s of years ago by simple cut n dip in water method...i was taught by my grand mom to do this..n it works great......giv it a try...bloody easy
 

Chester da Horse

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bro..nothing...u dont need anything other than a cup of water to dip ur stems in...well this method is an old ancient method when ppl first learn the art of cloning 1000s of years ago by simple cut n dip in water method...i was taught by my grand mom to do this..n it works great......giv it a try...bloody easy
yes wise guru grandmother's ancient cup of water cloning method. she also said to do it during new/waxing moon phase ...
 

vtmaster

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yes wise guru grandmother's ancient cup of water cloning method. she also said to do it during new/waxing moon phase ...
hey well...she did not teach me but when i was young i use to see her doing that with tulsi plants....n when i googld it , it convinced me of doing dis method .......any ways dis is my 3rd grow n now i realiz its actually very easy to grow pot ..infact its been month now n i had germinated seed n after 2 sets of leaves , i uprooted it n dippd it in water n since then kept it lik that ...added a ball or two of DAP and baanana peel water n that baby is still alive n infact grown little ....lets c hw long it cn survive ..its amazing to see cannabis just surviving its roots dipped in just water
 

Chester da Horse

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hey well...she did not teach me but when i was young i use to see her doing that with tulsi plants....n when i googld it , it convinced me of doing dis method .......any ways dis is my 3rd grow n now i realiz its actually very easy to grow pot ..infact its been month now n i had germinated seed n after 2 sets of leaves , i uprooted it n dippd it in water n since then kept it lik that ...added a ball or two of DAP and baanana peel water n that baby is still alive n infact grown little ....lets c hw long it cn survive ..its amazing to see cannabis just surviving its roots dipped in just water
kaya wants to give us ganja and love and peace.
stupid mankind just refuses to love her back.

good luck with your clones, mine are a week old and only just holding on to life - i took them from a flowering plant to try this 'monster cropping' technique.

i want to grow tulsi, but don't know where to get a seed around here, down under...
does it keep the pests away from your garden as well as help the vastrushastra?
 
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