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GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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Shackleford.R said:
oh... :shock::shock::shock: i was talking OTC Hydrogen Peroxide like you use to clean a wound... haha.

more info!!
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I thought I did give you more info...:lol:

GypsyBush said:
You need to find at least 35% (food grade) h2o2..

over the counter 3% will do.. but it will cost you an arm and a leg...

In my res.. I would need about 30 bottles of 3% h2o2 every 3 or 4 days...
Find the right stuff...

Look up industrial chemical suppliers on your yellow pages... same people that sell chlorine and shit like that ... they have it...

I paid$110 for 15 gallons of 50%... it will last me for a loooong time...;-)
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GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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it's 5 am Shack... and I have to do percentage math now...?!?!

oh boy..

I hope I remember 3rd grade...:lol:

Stand by....:eyesmoke:
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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well Shack... a quick search right here on RIU gave me this address...

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/177655-using-hydrogen-peroxide-h2o2.html

plenty of pros and cons on using the 3% stuff....

and I can't figure out the math bro... I am still looking for Al B. Fuct's post on it... it spelled everything out...

But here's the info...

50% goes in a 1ml per liter...

35% goes in at 1.7 ml per liter....


Never Mind... here is the word from people that know WAAAAY more than I do...


POTROAST said:
potroast

makes its own sauce
Mr. Ganja



https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/133515-hydrogen-peroxide-h2o2.html


For the 3%, you need to use 17ml/liter, or about 1 liter for your 4 gallons. And you need to add that much every 3rd day.

Here's Al's take on it


HTH :mrgreen:
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Al B. Fuct said:
Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Mr. Ganja


https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/94811-al-b-faqt-8.html#post1132590

With 50% grade ('horticultural') H2O2, use 1ml/litre, every 3-4 days. Same dosage and reapplication rate in nutrient tanks.

If you can only get 35% 'food grade' (used for sterilising food processing equip), use 1.7ml/L.

If you're really stuck and can only get 3% 'pharmacy grade' H2O2, it's 17ml/L, which gets way out of hand when trying to dose large nute tanks. My 125L tanks would each need 2125ml of 3% every 3-4 days. When you consider that pharm grade is usually sold in 250ml bottles, that's 8.5 of them! I have 4 flowering tanks and one mother plant tank... I'd need about 36 250ml bottles of 3% every 3-4 days. You reckon the pharmacist will mind? :grin:

I buy 25L 'carboy' jugs of 50% grade from a chemical supply house, about $125, lasts months.
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Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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gypsy you always go above and beyond.. call yourself a copycat all you want..

you have been a great help and a tremendous resource.

when harvest time comes... as this is bagseed... i may just name it "Gypsy Bush"

thanks for being a help.. and i'm off to the store soon to pick up some H2O2!!

:peace:
Shack
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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long time no see right? well here's the story, ever since the nute burn she has had trouble recovering, she has maintained a fairly pitiful appearance.
starting today, i'm going with the GH feeding schedule and moving her to "Ripening" formula nutrient solution.
plan on giving her two weeks of ripening, then she is getting chopped.

i'll post a pic later today, let you know where she is at.

:peace:
Shack
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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Today Laura got her first taste of Ripen strength nutrient solution (according to the Gen Hydro feeding schedule) I also gave her a blast of H2O2 (3%). 250 mL for the 2 gallon res.

Next week she will receive the a fresh batch of the same solution recipe, and after that week CHOP CHOP!!!

So now i need advice for chopping.. take down the whole bush at the main stem, and the trim down to smaller branches and remove larger leaves, hang to dry for a few days, removing leaves as they dry.. after about a week manicure in the nug and then start the cure?? (all measurements of time are rough estimates) anything else i should consider? is that right or wrong??

:peace:
Shack

P.S. I can't wait to move to soil.. tired of moving the plant, cleaning the res, mixing the nutes, filling the res, moving the plant back.. blah blah blah.. soil is definitely the n00b way to start.. haha. oh well hydro has definitely been a learning experience!!
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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I can't imagine she is anywhere near ready...

Can I see a pic?

Oh... and when you chop... you trim and manicure it all the same day...

Then you dry.. then you cure...;-)
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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well gypsy.. you're right and you're wrong..

she is nowhere near ready, but she is haha.. she never really recovered and i'd love to give 4 weeks before chopping.
but i have a road trip coming up that can't be moved.
the hope is to chop, manicure, dry and cure along the road.

that and i'm ready for this grow to be over with, i've learned my hydro lesson, i'd much rather be in soil.

to be frank, I'Mdone with this grow, Laura could definitely enjoy another month of flower, but her time has come.

thank you for keeping it real Gypsy.

:peace:
Shack
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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BIG Update tomorrow!! Harvesting soon.

I'll let you know now! Trimmed a few branches off a week ago, and without a good cure it is still a VERY good smoke! Mellow high, almost narcotic. Leaves you relaxed but able to move. Taste is VERY exotic, definitely from a mexican strain (the seed is from swag moved through Houston, most definitely some Mexi-Brick) Another week of ripening and this will for sure be a good stone!

:peace:
Shack
 
howak47

howak47

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Shackleford.R said:
BIG Update tomorrow!! Harvesting soon.

I'll let you know now! Trimmed a few branches off a week ago, and without a good cure it is still a VERY good smoke! Mellow high, almost narcotic. Leaves you relaxed but able to move. Taste is VERY exotic, definitely from a mexican strain (the seed is from swag moved through Houston, most definitely some Mexi-Brick) Another week of ripening and this will for sure be a good stone!

:peace:
Shack
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sounds good man cant wait for the update!!!!:bigjoint:
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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As promised an update!! Ripening is going VERY well, the girls are starting to bulk up nicely!

Have them at 1200 ppm, with floralicious bloom, floranectar, and liquid koolbloom.
Also H2O2 at a rate of 250 mL/gal (i'm using over the counter pharmacy H2O2)

She seems the happiest she has been through the whole flowering process. Haven't seen her this healthy since the early days of veg!!
I'm a believer in NON-organic nutes and H2O2 for my hydro grows!!

So the gameplan at this point is to run the res with this strength for the rest of the week and topping off as needed (the root ball is too big to fill all at once with the 2 gallons of solution) After I've run the entire 2 gallons of solution, will be making a judgement call an added week of ripening or a one week straight pH water flush. Leaning towards the flush as the test trim from two weeks ago had the cerebral non-couch lock high that I am after!

Enjoy some bud pr0nz!!

:peace:
Shack
 

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GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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Deff. some buds starting to form...:clap::clap:

It's a shame you can;t let them go longer...

I bet you would have a surprisingly good yield if you just let them run their course...

I mean.. up to 25% of a buds mass comes in the last few weeks...

But.. gotta do what you gotta do...

Best of luck with your soil grow...:clap:

I feel soil is way too advanced for my knowledge...

Good Luck...:razz:
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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funny you should say that Gypsy, i feel hydro is too advanced for my knowledge. haha.

soil seems simple and easy to me, creates a nice buffer for nutrients and such.

also i plan to go pretty natural and simple. i think the issue/problems with soil come into play when you start concerning yourself with pH and ppm... i raise delicious tomatoes and just follow manufacturers instructions for fertilizing. (i.e. add this much to this much water) when you get TOO technical and concern yourself with other issues i feel is probably when things get thrown out of whack!

i'm certain my knowledge gained from this grow and understanding cannabis' needs will lend a helping hand to my first soil adventure!

:peace:
Shack
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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Shackleford.R said:
funny you should say that Gypsy, i feel hydro is too advanced for my knowledge. haha....
:peace:
Shack
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Well..

Hydro is by the numbers... you grow scientifically...

Follow the recipe .. get the cake...

...

Soil is like magik...

there is no science to follow... it's all "gut feeling"...

And so much more potential for deficiencies or toxic accumulations than hydro...

Then there's pests and disease... and it's dirty...

I just could not fathom going to soil...

I think "Gandalf the White" would be a good soil grower...

But I am no wizard...

My kung fu is not THAT strong....

I rather stick to something I can follow directions to and achieve good results...

But I do wish the best of luck.. and who knows....

You didn't do well with hydro... maybe you are one of the soil wizards...:razz:
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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Well not much to report, buds are still piling on.. seems the magic number for this strain is 5.9 pH and 1100 ppm. I was running full strength up until i decided to go to the "ripening" strength, so i was running 1400-1500 ppm, seems she prefers the lower ppm. Go figure?!

No time for pics right now, i'll do some tomorrow. My major complaint right now is the lack of crystal, to the naked eye should i be able to see any? All the photos I see buds always look FROSTED, and here she looks healthy but she doesnt have that shimmer i'm used to seeing in photo or in my sac from the dealer for that matter!! Thoughts?? My humidity might be too high, thus keeping her from wanting to develop the resins to protect herself.. thoughts RIU??? or do crystals come AFTER the buds bulk up??

:peace:
Shack

PS i just checked.. Temps = 90 Humidity = 35% (i'm also running DIY CO2 so i'm ok with the higher temps, from what i hear...)
 
howak47

howak47

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shackleford.r said:
as promised an update!! Ripening is going very well, the girls are starting to bulk up nicely!

Have them at 1200 ppm, with floralicious bloom, floranectar, and liquid koolbloom.
Also h2o2 at a rate of 250 ml/gal (i'm using over the counter pharmacy h2o2)

she seems the happiest she has been through the whole flowering process. Haven't seen her this healthy since the early days of veg!!
I'm a believer in non-organic nutes and h2o2 for my hydro grows!!

So the gameplan at this point is to run the res with this strength for the rest of the week and topping off as needed (the root ball is too big to fill all at once with the 2 gallons of solution) after i've run the entire 2 gallons of solution, will be making a judgement call an added week of ripening or a one week straight ph water flush. Leaning towards the flush as the test trim from two weeks ago had the cerebral non-couch lock high that i am after!

Enjoy some bud pr0nz!!

:peace:
Shack
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damn man those are sum monsters hahaha lookin good keep up the good work!!!i just did updates on both my threads!!!
 
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