Weed, a value retaining asset?!

Hello my fellow green thumbs

In an ever increasing world of risk and currency bailouts and defaults. I had an interesting idea.

For the next few years, the country im in will be in financial trouble and may even well bankrupt.

Lots are moving thier money out but all currencies are at a risk at the moment.
So i was thinking of hedging my bets in weed. Instead of selling it in the present. I was thinking about storing it long term, maybe 3-4 years.

I was thinking drying, curing, over drying, then vaccumming and sealing with a preservative gas, then storing in the ground somewhere.

It would retain its value through any economic woes as people will always want the stuff, and regardless of what happens to any currency, when the new one takes over, it'll be roughly the same value in the future.

What do people think? Any suggestions or ideas?

Weed and even hash don't keep very long, even when dehydrted and sealed under oxygen-free gas. The cannabinoids degrade. I suspect residual enzyme activity in the cellular debris in trichomes is in play.
Deep-freezing would help in this case ...
or preparation of a solvent extract. After a quick carbon filtration of a hydrocarbon extract, it'll keep for YEARS at room temp. I speak from experience. cn

That's not a bad idea in theory...what happens when people are to broke to buy anything tho? it'll be worth...bullets?

PeyoteReligion said:

That's not a bad idea in theory...what happens when people are to broke to buy anything tho? it'll be worth...bullets?

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If people can afford food and transport and rent, they always can afford entertainment/weed. A weeks supply or a movie+sweets for 2. A recession or financial hard times never decrease weed use.

cannabineer said:

Weed and even hash don't keep very long, even when dehydrted and sealed under oxygen-free gas. The cannabinoids degrade. I suspect residual enzyme activity in the cellular debris in trichomes is in play.
Deep-freezing would help in this case ...
or preparation of a solvent extract. After a quick carbon filtration of a hydrocarbon extract, it'll keep for YEARS at room temp. I speak from experience. cn

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Hmm.. I was hoping that vaccuming packing and sealing with a preservative gas would keep the weed usable for a few years. 3-4 hopefully.

"After a quick carbon filtration of a hydrocarbon extract,"
Do this mean (forgive my ignorance) turn the weed into oil extract for consumption?

theTinker said:

Hmm.. I was hoping that vaccuming packing and sealing with a preservative gas would keep the weed usable for a few years. 3-4 hopefully.

"After a quick carbon filtration of a hydrocarbon extract,"
Do this mean (forgive my ignorance) turn the weed into oil extract for consumption?

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Or investment. Compact durable storage form. Imagine coins of it like chocolate money ... cn

cannabineer said:

Or investment. Compact durable storage form. Imagine coins of it like chocolate money ... cn

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hmmm so process the weed into another form for storage and resale later.
What would be the best process method in your experience? When you say you stored it for years, do you mean you stored weed oil extract?

theTinker said:

hmmm so process the weed into another form for storage and resale later.
What would be the best process method in your experience? When you say you stored it for years, do you mean you stored weed oil extract?

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I did both ... I stored some Cindy 99 (original Bros Grimm) under argon in the freezer for 10 years ... it was still good but at maybe 1/2 potency.
I also stored some refined Cindy extract at essentially room temp for that duration ... it was almost as good as new.
My preferred extractants are hydrocarbons like butane or hexanes. cn

cannabineer said:

I did both ... I stored some Cindy 99 (original Bros Grimm) under argon in the freezer for 10 years ... it was still good but at maybe 1/2 potency.
I also stored some refined Cindy extract at essentially room temp for that duration ... it was almost as good as new.
My preferred extractants are hydrocarbons like butane or hexanes. cn

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Thanks for all that. Ill definitely look into it.
Ill check with current customers about what they think of purchasing extract and see if its a valued item that can be sold in future. thanks

I gotta say, between the two of you it makes perfect sense. I'd certainly be willing to trade a few of my meal-line tickets for a good high in a time of crisis.

theTinker said:

Hello my fellow green thumbs

In an ever increasing world of risk and currency bailouts and defaults. I had an interesting idea.

For the next few years, the country im in will be in financial trouble and may even well bankrupt.

Lots are moving thier money out but all currencies are at a risk at the moment.
So i was thinking of hedging my bets in weed. Instead of selling it in the present. I was thinking about storing it long term, maybe 3-4 years.

I was thinking drying, curing, over drying, then vaccumming and sealing with a preservative gas, then storing in the ground somewhere.

It would retain its value through any economic woes as people will always want the stuff, and regardless of what happens to any currency, when the new one takes over, it'll be roughly the same value in the future.

What do people think? Any suggestions or ideas?

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I say YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
It is totally like "Gold" or "Silver" or like Oil will be


I plan on preserving and storing 10% of ALL my "big ticket" foreign purchases, for the future. When "Ashes, ashes. We all fall down"

nah it gets weaker too fast..... easier to buy precious metal like gold.. after you SELL the marked up weed ..

I'm going to do some more research on the preservation of weed over the coming week. Ill get back and update this topic.

If there was a way to preserve it even for 3 years at 80% potency, It would be a very valuable tool to have.

Ill be back!

Alright good news. It seems long term storage 2-5 years is easily possible. There is always the inherent risk of storing an organic compound and mould. However numerous threads on RollitUp seem to have plenty of examples. Infact,I see more examples of 2+ year storage than half of the crazy stuff I read about!

Fdd, and technomage users are the best for it so far, but a quick google of "rollitup weed long term storage" brings up many threads.

In summary it follows this process:
-Dry the weed and cure for 10-14days.
-Dry the weed until it is devoid of moisture. So maybe not as springy as it usually would be. But its important to remove the moisture from it.
-Be sure to wipe clean the mason jar with alcoholic wipes/solution before putting weed in.
-Jars should can be painted black to block light.
-Vaccume seal the Glass mason jars with weed inside.
-Dip jar top in wax or duct tape it help the seal protection.
-Bury the jars at least 4 foot down, basically to avoid freezing and thawing. It depends on your location.

A few ideas and practices can be used to help this vaccuming along.
-Dont use bags as they crush the weed. Use jars to maintain shape.
-A decent vaccum sealer with leave approx 2% oxygen in the jar(it seems to depend on the negative pressure the sealer creates versus the positive pressure at altitude at sea level to get this figure. Imagine it as 98% removal of gases.
By this logic, If you vaccum seal with dry ice in the jar, after the vaccum is done, the dry will melt into CO2, Revaccuming then will leave you with only 0.02% in the jar. You could repeat but probably not needed.
*This helpful logic was from another thread on this site.
-Some people will leave CO2 in the jar to stop the vaccum seal from ever breaking on the jar once lidded, This should work fine but id like to learn more if any common moulds can use CO2 for respiration.

note: There will be some curing happening in the jar, however it will be very slow comparing to regular curing so its a good idea to cure the buds a little before jarring them as most of the nitrogen breaks down in the first few weeks after chop.

Perhaps this technique is a great way to invest your money into a value retaining asset to survive hard times, economic woes, and currency collapses.

theTinker said:

I'm going to do some more research on the preservation of weed over the coming week. Ill get back and update this topic.

If there was a way to preserve it even for 3 years at 80% potency, It would be a very valuable tool to have.

Ill be back!

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Man there are ways to preserve it WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY past that.

Look into food grade preservatives

Hash can just be preserved and used as food

Finshaggy said:

Man there are ways to preserve it WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY past that.

Look into food grade preservatives

Hash can just be preserved and used as food

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That was my question, seems like hash would not degrade over time due the high density?.

Sunbiz1 said:

That was my question, seems like hash would not degrade over time due the high density?.

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I don't know anything about degrading due to density. But I'd say hash would last longer, yes. And you can probably find a safe additive to make it survive a nuclear holocaust.
Twinkie figured it out for cheap

Sunbiz1 said:

That was my question, seems like hash would not degrade over time due the high density?.

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Unfortunately hash does degrade ... it has stray enzymes from trichome cellular debris still in the matrix. I'm tellin ya ... solvent extracts. A dab of BHT and it'll be immortal, like dashboard Twinkies. ~grin~ cn

cannabineer said:

Unfortunately hash does degrade ... it has stray enzymes from trichome cellular debris still in the matrix. I'm tellin ya ... solvent extracts. A dab of BHT and it'll be immortal, like dashboard Twinkies. ~grin~ cn

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What is that? Is it safe to smoke/eat?

Finshaggy said:

What is that? Is it safe to smoke/eat?

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2,6-di-tert-butyl-p-cresol, or "butylated hydroxytoluene". It's one of our best and oldest food additives. In fact it could be claimed that it is a synthetic standin for vitamin E. Smokes well too. cn