Week 3 of Veg. Feedback and suggestions are welcome.
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since1991
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Especially something like Blumats. Ya never get runoff like a conventional top drip to waste. I would imagine that with those or those Easy Pot (or whatever they arw called) dealys...it would behoove a grower to keep a water wand/pump/& small tank always close by for a weekly or bi weekly manual flush to waste with mild pH balanced solution.
xtsho
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You're ec/ppm's are too high. You don't need to feed that strong. Otherwise looking better than your previous grows. Gotta love those blumats.
I never check runoff and I never flush. I just focus on what goes in. If you are going to flush do not flush with RO water. Run some half strength nutes until your desired amount of runoff.
Good luck.
I never check runoff and I never flush. I just focus on what goes in. If you are going to flush do not flush with RO water. Run some half strength nutes until your desired amount of runoff.
Good luck.
Dr. Who
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You might want to prepare to super crop those tall ones down to light limit height....
Pinch stem (between finger nails, gently) till it begins to collapse and easy like, bend them over to 90 deg. It may go farther and that's ok.....
How you can deal with those "too Tall" stems or branch's.
Pinch stem (between finger nails, gently) till it begins to collapse and easy like, bend them over to 90 deg. It may go farther and that's ok.....
How you can deal with those "too Tall" stems or branch's.
Daveindiego
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Got away from me really quick. I’m manipulating the branches down into the trellis.
Thanks.
Dr. Who
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Don't sweat it! You'll get it.....
Daveindiego
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Worked those stalks into the trellis, again, these plants got away from me with the stretch.
About the PPMs/EC.
I’m mixing up a gallon of nutrients using 5ml of CalMag, and about 14 ml of Base nutrient along with 1ml of Roots Excelurator, and with that I’m still getting 1100 ppm levels. And using RO water.
The recommendation is to use 20-25ml of Base nutrients, which as you can see I have already nearly halved. How much more can I reduce?
I usually mix 9 gallons a week, and got that 1050ppm level, so I’m cutting it with 2 more gallons of water to get down to the 750’s.
Here is how things are looking.
About the PPMs/EC.
I’m mixing up a gallon of nutrients using 5ml of CalMag, and about 14 ml of Base nutrient along with 1ml of Roots Excelurator, and with that I’m still getting 1100 ppm levels. And using RO water.
The recommendation is to use 20-25ml of Base nutrients, which as you can see I have already nearly halved. How much more can I reduce?
I usually mix 9 gallons a week, and got that 1050ppm level, so I’m cutting it with 2 more gallons of water to get down to the 750’s.
Here is how things are looking.
since1991
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I quit battling stretch with my short 7 ft michigan basement awhile ago. I keep 12 hours of lights off temps 5 degrees warmer at canopy than the temps when its 12 hours of lights on. The first 14 to 21 days of 12 - 12. Then once the stretch period is over and they start bud set its back to normal canopy temps lights on and off. None of my cultivars stretch very much at all using this old greenhouse veggie growers trick. The temperature differential. Works everytime. I use a bunch of double ended Gavita HPS fixtures. And I cant let any of my strains get over 30 inches not including the pot height (about a foot). DE Hps will burn my canopy if I dont keep it short as I can. If I ever move from my present spot...I will never rent a house that has any room or basement lower than 8 feet.
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Daveindiego
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This current grow is from seed that I had grown previously and the plant was about 33 inches at week 5 of flower.
Daveindiego
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Here is the results after the end of week 1 in flower.
since1991
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Plants from seed tend to get bigger than the clones of the same or similar cultivar in my experience. Harder to control height indoors with seed varieties. To get the best flowers you have to wait until a certain time to force them to flower. At least this is what ive found over the years. I tend to stick with cuttings almost always now a days. I like the consistency and knowing they will do the same thing everytime if i do my part. They can be manipulated controlled and forced to do what you want or need to do inside alot easier. Of course your throwing individual plant phenotype uniqueness out as well. So its a trade off really.
rolljoeroll
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What kind of watering system is that. I was looking for one and couldn't find any.
xtsho
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rolljoeroll
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thanks
Daveindiego
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I bought mine off of amazon.
Been using it for about 4 weeks, and everything seems to be thriving.
Daveindiego
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Just to follow things up.....
End of week 3, and this one has me confused. Things seem to be going great with the flower, but the big fan leaves are beginning their turn yellow and fall off routine on me.
I think my PPMs last week were way too high, so going into week 4 I dialed it back to 490ppms. 12 gallons of RO water with a total of 60ml of Base nutrient, 40ml of CalMag, and 12ml of flower enhancer.
Right now I’m going along thinking there is a problem, but when I look at the flower after week 3 I’m hesitant to do something different.
End of week 3, and this one has me confused. Things seem to be going great with the flower, but the big fan leaves are beginning their turn yellow and fall off routine on me.
I think my PPMs last week were way too high, so going into week 4 I dialed it back to 490ppms. 12 gallons of RO water with a total of 60ml of Base nutrient, 40ml of CalMag, and 12ml of flower enhancer.
Right now I’m going along thinking there is a problem, but when I look at the flower after week 3 I’m hesitant to do something different.
since1991
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Looks good to me. From yer photos. Thing with the water/feeds is to keep everything very consistent.Especially pH. Keep it 5.8 to 6.2 for coco coir or rockwool and on the high side of that for peat based mixes. Amd I noticed your using Blumats. You don't really get runoff with those unlesz you do it manually or with a water wand every week or so. What I would do with that setup is keep your EC total (of base nutrient) at 1.2 to 1.4 (600 to 700 ppm). But you look ok from the photos you posted. Just keep the pH and EC consistent in the tank that the Blumats come from. Check it often. Even in non recovery tanks your tap water (if yiur using tap water) hardness buffer can raise your pH from what you initially set your target at. Just by it setting and over time as the level goes down. So check it and you might see that you have to add small amounts of pH down to keep it in the 6.0 range sweet spot. Again..consistency is key here.
Daveindiego
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Bro, thank you very much.
I check my PPMs and pH daily from my reservoir. My PPMs stay constant, but I find that the pH does have a tendency to rise on me, so I use pH Down to get it into the 5.9 to 6.0 range.
Last week I had my PPMs too high, this week I’m at 450.
Regarding these fan leaf issues, does anyone think it’s a CalMag issue? As in too much?