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redsky97

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hello,im new to growing for my first year i am growing mighty might (outdoor) and i need some info on the plant and i have no clue what to use for fert or soil? .any advice would be much apreasheated
 

Wikidbchofthewst

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hello,im new to growing for my first year i am growing mighty might (outdoor) and i need some info on the plant and i have no clue what to use for fert or soil? .any advice would be much apreasheated
Click the GrowFAQ. Under "Grow Methods and Mediums" there's a section called "Growing outdoors" You should check there. It has stuff like this:

How do I prepare my outdoor plot?



Contributed by: Leaf

A lot of the times I turn the existing soil without adding much to it, and have an excellent crop, but some sites need soil improvements. This FAQ will outline how to prepare and enrich your outdoor site.

It is best to prepare your area(s) in the fall for planting the following spring. Doing this will allow the soil additives to break down, releasing their nutrients into the soil. Simply turn the top layer of your previously prepared plots before planting at the beginning of the season. If you cannot prep your locations ahead of time, prepare them as soon as possible.

Clearing the area:
The fall is the best time to clean an area of brush and fallen trees/branches. I personally wouldn't fall a tree in the middle of nowhere.
The size of plot depends on how many plants you have. Planting in natural clumps or singularly is also dependant on preference.

The expected yield varies greatly, depending on conditions, strain and TLC.

How do I prepare the site?
I unfold a small tarp on the ground at the spot that I want to amend. Then I dig a 2' x 2' (minimum) hole, placing all the material I remove onto the tarp. I keep digging down until I reach the clay layer. I will remove the clay separately, in a 5 gallon bucket, and move it into a secluded location near by (Try to fill a natural depression with the clay, then cover with leaves and twigs).

I usually dig the hole to a depth of about 2.5 – 3’ feet; little if any material needs to be removed from the hole once I have removed the clay. Once completed, I loosen and break up the clay layer to a loose consistency so the roots can penetrate deeper.

I mix the soil layers on the tarp together, breaking up large chunks with my shovel. I then return about one third of the soil from the tarp back into the hole. Then the remaining soil is mixing in with some soil conditioners, depending on how fertile the original soil is and what I feel the soil needs.

Once I have added all the ingredients I feel the particular area requires, I then blend this material on the tarp and fill the hole with the mix. Loosely compact the mix by patting it down with a shovel, stepping on it, etc. A slight depression usually remains, naturally trapping water when it rains or when watering/feeding.

Soil conditioners: (A list of some of the components I add).

Perlite and vermiculite (sometimes I use Sunshine Mix #1 or #4 instead, if I feel the original dirt it is lacking in rich topsoil)
dolomite or hydrated lime
green sand
wood ash
blood meal / bone meal
glacial rock dust
worm castings
compost
pre-composted manure (chicken, rabbit, cow, bat guano, seabird, etc)
fish (Dice the entire fish into 2” cubes so it will decompose at a quicker rate)

I feel the lime and compost are important ingredients because they react together, rapidly breaking down the nutrients to an available form to the roots, as well as creating heat while decomposing.

Blood meal and bone meal are excellent additions; ensure that you also use lime to mask the smell from bears and other animals.

Perlite and vermiculite plots stand out in the wilderness, especially if you’ve prepared your spot(s) the previous fall. Make sure you have 3”+ inches of soil covering these little white pebbles. Watering tends to make these little white buggers float and settle to the top, so make sure they are buried good.

An alternative to Perlite, vermiculite, or Sunshine Mix soils is coco-fibers. These fibers are shredded coco husks, and are excellent for providing aeration and water absorption. These fibers also seem to promote vigorous root growth, as the roots shoot along the fibers as opposed to grinding through dirt. Coco fibers are brown, so the plots look natural.

Dry/remote area tips:
Polymer crystals can be added to the mixture; they are great for absorbing and slowly releasing water. I recommend pre-expanding the crystals overnight in a bucket of water before using them at your site. They work great in grow bags too.

Another tip is to line the outside edges and bottom of your hole with plastic. This will trap all the moisture inside your hole. Just ensure to perforate the plastic at the bottom of the hole, because your plants will drown if the roots are left in water.

The site has been prepared! Now pack up everything and leave without making a trace. How much site prep and what conditioners to add depends on how remote your area is, how much enrichment is needed, and whether or not you are willing to pack all these ingredients to the area(s).
 

KillaCronic42o

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Hey there i am a new member of this site and from what i see this site looks very cool. however i have no clue how to post and i've been looking for an hour now on how to go about putting up a new post. i have a small closet 1.5 feet by 1.5 feet and about 2.5 feet tall. i am growing 2 plants in POTting soil in containers about 2 by 2 by 3 inches high. i am using a so called flouressecent plant light 65 watts and watering twice a day the light is 2 feet above the plants because it is a hot light and evapoarated the water before the plants could get started the first time...this is my second attempt....but now i have a problem i think..my plants stems don't seem to stop growing while my leaves remain tiny...any help would be greatly appreciated. also i have just hooked up a fan 20 minutes ago not sure if my stems are weak or not but one is 3 inches straight up looking nice while the other is like 6 inches and swerveing off to the side going away from the light...there is discoloration of the leaves and i'm not sure if this one is going to make it. thanks


-KillaCronic42o
 

Wikidbchofthewst

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Hey there i am a new member of this site and from what i see this site looks very cool. however i have no clue how to post and i've been looking for an hour now on how to go about putting up a new post. i have a small closet 1.5 feet by 1.5 feet and about 2.5 feet tall. i am growing 2 plants in POTting soil in containers about 2 by 2 by 3 inches high. i am using a so called flouressecent plant light 65 watts and watering twice a day the light is 2 feet above the plants because it is a hot light and evapoarated the water before the plants could get started the first time...this is my second attempt....but now i have a problem i think..my plants stems don't seem to stop growing while my leaves remain tiny...any help would be greatly appreciated. also i have just hooked up a fan 20 minutes ago not sure if my stems are weak or not but one is 3 inches straight up looking nice while the other is like 6 inches and swerveing off to the side going away from the light...there is discoloration of the leaves and i'm not sure if this one is going to make it. thanks


-KillaCronic42o
How to post a thread: Go into the forum that is appropriate to what you want to post, and then in the upper left hand corner, on the same level as the "Page 1 of 94081234" click "new thread"

As for your grow...your light is supposed to be closer to your plant, like as close as 3 or 4 inches away, if it can be done without burning the plant.

Do you have a fan? You said that your light gets too hot, a fan would help keep it cooler, plus it would strengthen your stems. Because you know, out doors plants grow stronger by resisting the force of the wind...

EDIT:
Oh yeah, and in general, I gotta recommend you check out the GrowFAQ, make it your gameplan. Learn it, live it, love it! (lmao, sorry, couldn't stop myself)
 

BLAZEDALWAYZ420

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HEY EVERYBODY WHAT'S GOOD MY NAMES ANGEL JUST WANTED TO SAY HiGH AND IF I NEED ANY HELP I'LL MAKE SURE TO POST.THiS IS MY THIRD TIME TRYING TO GROW A PLANT FULLY FROM SEEDLING TO BUDS LAST TWO TIMES DID'NT DEDICATE ENUFF TiME AND THEY DIED THIS TiME I HOPE THiNGS GO GOOD WiSH ME LUCK.
 

bkstylz

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I am bkstylz and I am a new enthusiastic grower. I've already posted a couple of times but I realized I should make the proper introduction. For my first grow I am starting out with the 400w MH & HPS grow kit with tent from htgsupply High Tech Garden Supply

I have some trainwreck and white widow fems I got from a reliable seed bank. Can't wait to share with you all my growing experiences as I will share in yours.
 

tidywayne

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hey all im wayne im 27 from uk looking to start my first little project soon in the cupboard under the stairs just thought id say hey and ill be bombarding u all with many questions over the next few months as i am totally new to all this and havnt got a clue any way theres a little about me take care all and keep it tidy

wayne
 

redzIfi

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This is my HH rollin through,,, its been a good month now, but I think its lagging. what do you guys think? you guys thinks its healthy, or growing at a good pace? tell me whats up, ill appreciate it... just speak the truth
 

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strictly

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here's the deal, threw some seeds in the back yard, it rained, now i'm a grower.
but they can not stay out there.
sooo; inside is the only choice but i'm pretty strapped for cash, unemployed.
what is a good cheap light?
will miracle grow potting soil work?
i read a grow manual online but it can't as complicated as it sounds; afterall the sprouts came up with no help at all.
dirt, light, what else is the very least i can do?
 

captnplanet

Active Member
Hi everybudy I am here! this shit is the awsomest web site .I am glad to be a member.
this is my new grow and I have a few questions . If your soil PH is 6.8 should the water PH be 4.0?? the higher the soil the lower the water PH right?And can you use a pool PH kit?I am having a hard time finding Ph equipment( ACE really is not the place )for grow supplies I have my babies in styrofoam cups they are all in differant stages I am going to transplant them When there third set of nodes are completely devloped .My soil is scotts organic if that helps .O my lights are floro t12 a cool and warm 40 watters .there are two now. plan to addsix more tubes once i put them in there little hide away to grow and flower .I am going to flower with aquarrium lights (wide spectrum)floros 40 watters
So am I on the right trak?Seemorebuds is my litieture and very informitive Except for the PH scale only reads to6.1 and my soil is at 6.8 .What is the best brand for ph equipment?

thanks
The Captn
 

VictorVIcious

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Hi. This is my first time growing and Ive managed to get rid of all the males and left with 2 rather healthy females, approximately 400mm high each and are about 5 months old. Please can someone help me to distinguish when the right time to harvest would be... and what I should be doing to achieve a good healthy grow for my Bubblelicious. Much appreciated. Ive attached some pics.
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Now, start a journal. Click on Grow Journals in the subject spot for any post, it will take you to that forum and the button on the top left will say like new thread or something like that. Remember to include pictures and share you plan as you get ideas of how you may want to proceed. VV:blsmoke:
SOrry I missed you in earlier responses. The plants look healthy, a little sparse, probably not much lighting. I would not be in a hurry with them right now. Please start a journal and send me a link. VV:blsmoke:
 

jimmyspaz

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Welcome to RIU. Start by reading FAQ's at top of page, and check grow journals, do a search for info,often your questions have already been anwered somewhere on the forum.If you can't find an answer post your questions. We will try to help. We are all here to share our knowledge, and have fun growing. Good luck to all!!:peace::leaf::leaf::peace:
 

Wikidbchofthewst

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here's the deal, threw some seeds in the back yard, it rained, now i'm a grower.
but they can not stay out there.
sooo; inside is the only choice but i'm pretty strapped for cash, unemployed.
what is a good cheap light?
will miracle grow potting soil work?
i read a grow manual online but it can't as complicated as it sounds; afterall the sprouts came up with no help at all.
dirt, light, what else is the very least i can do?
How to grow marijuana - See More Buds - video DVD reviews

I suggest you get that book. He shows you how to grow in the least expensive way possible. He uses CFL's which aren't expensive at all, and he uses Miracle Gro potting soil. It's an awesome book, it's like a daily grow journal where he tells you exactly what he does and pics every day.
 

strictly

Active Member
okay, new question.
if one bulb gives off 1000 lumens does that mean two give off 2000?
or do you need different types of lights?
 

Wikidbchofthewst

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okay, new question.
if one bulb gives off 1000 lumens does that mean two give off 2000?
or do you need different types of lights?
I don't understand, are you asking me if 1000+1000=2000? What different types of lights do you mean?

In SeeMoreBuds' book, he says to start with at least 6 42 watt CFL's.

And THIS is from the GrowFAQ

What are compact fluorescents and how can I use them for growing?


What are compact fluorescents and how can I use them for growing?




What are compact fluorescents and how can I use them for growing?

Contributed by: Burramys Parvus
Thanks to: 11leafedleaf
Submitted: 03-25-2003
Images archived

BASIC INFORMATION
Compact fluorescents are close relatives of the 4ft tube fluorescents, commonly used in shops and schools for their white, soft light that does not cast any defined shadows. These lights are long tubes, usually 4ft long, filled with a gas that releases a photon of light when excited by electricity. The electricity is passed through the tube from the metal sections at either end, thus exciting the gas within and releasing photons of light. These lights must have a 'starter' which gets the light going initially, unlike incandescent which can just be turned on and off without one. Regular fluorescents usually emit 18w of light per tube, and cannot be plugged straight into a wall socket.

Compact fluorescents, on the other hand, are made for use in regular light sockets, and can easily be installed by anyone with basic handyman skills. Compact fluorescents are usually around 8inches long (not including the ballast, which usually adds about 3 inches to the total length) and emit minimal amounts of heat from the globe itself. Most of the heat emitted from a compact fluorescent comes from the ballast. These lights are usually between 8w and 27w, although some variation may occur between brands and uses.

The main reason people choose CF's over regular fluoro's is their compact ability! They are very 'movable' and can be positioned almost everywhere. They put out MUCH more light than their bigger cousins, while using only a fraction of the space.

Some of the many varieties of compact fluorescents.









Image contributed by: Locutus


NON-CULTIVATION USE OF COMPACT FLUORESCENTS

If you're running a large grow setup, and you're concerned about the spike in electricity, replace your regular light bulbs with compact fluoro’s around the house! They give off the same light, using only a fraction of the electricity. If you're running a HID light, and the electricity increase could kill you financially, or you're just worried about LEO, it might be a good idea to replace incandescent with compact fluoro’s. As an example, a 100w incandescent uses most of its energy giving off heat. If you replace all these 100w incandescent bulbs with ~20w energy saving compact fluoro's, you can dramatically reduce your energy bill, and help the environment at the same time. In fact, I recommend changing all your lights to CF's regardless of your growing situation, as they will save you $$ in the long-term, and save the environment.

The advantage with these lights is that the conversion from incandescent isn't complicated! Simply un-screw the old bulb, and screw in a compact fluoro! Done! You're on your way to energy saving paradise!


THE USE OF FLUORO'S FOR GROWING CANNABIS

Every grower has, or still uses these lights. Although they don’t even come close to the results from a HID light, they do however provide a cheap alternative for a newbie 'dabbling' in the fine art of growing. Instead of spending hundreds of dollars on an HID light, a newbie can purchase a compact fluorescent for a few bucks, and still have money for a coffee on the way home.

These lights are also excellent for starting seedlings and clones, as their cool light will not dry out the soil as fast as an HID. They have a low intensity, and are gentle on newly germinated seedlings, and are great for clones as they wont dry them out or give them too much of an early blast.

Compact fluoro's are also great for stealth grows, as they can be kept about 1 inch from the plants, and do not require extensive heat ventilation due to their warm operating temperature.


WHERE CAN I PURCHASE THESE LIGHTS?

Most lighting stores will sell them, but watch out, prices are very different depending on what type of shop you get them at! As lighting shops only sell lighting equipment, their prices can either be high or low, it really depends on the type of lighting shop it is. A designer lighting shop may end up being much more expensive, as they tend to be more directed towards the upper-class designer type customer, which extra $$ to spend. Hardware’s sell them, but their variety of lights is usually limited. Electricians, and assorted electrical shops will sell them, and this is most likely where you will get the best range and the best prices. My advice to you is, shop around! You wont regret it when you can save around 30% per light.


WHICH TYPE OF COMPACT FLUORESCENT LIGHT TO CHOOSE

For anyone growing cannabis, it is pointless to buy a weak light. Given the option of 8w, 15w and 27w, you would be stupid not to buy the 27watt, as they are more or less the same price. Compare the lumen output of each of the bulbs, different 27w bulbs may have different lumen outputs (depending on the manufacturer) and as with everything, the more lumens the better. You will also be given 2 options, the screw method of fitting, or the bayonet method (push and turn). My preference is the bayonet fitting. Make sure that you choose the right one for your socket! Also, do not choose a regular compact fluoro. Pick the one with the energy saving feature (will be explained why later on in the document). Now, for vegetative growth you should choose the 'cool white' light. This is also acceptable for flowering, but a 'warm white' light will be better as it is stronger in the red end of the light spectrum which is more suitable for flowering.


INSTALLING YOUR COMPACT FLUORESCENT

Now, this is extremely easy. As these bulbs fit normal light fixtures, you can just dismantle and old lamp to get the cord, plug and bulb fixture. This is ready made, as all you have to do is plug the cord into a wall outlet and screw in a bulb (with the power turned off, of course). This requires no electrical knowledge at all, and is the easiest way to get a cord suitable for a compact fluoro. The cord is simply removed from the lamp, and you are ready. If you feel you are not up to this task, or you do not have an old lamp ready to be destroyed, you can easily make one of these cords with basic electrical knowledge. Hardware’s and electricians will sell you the cable (you'll need at least 1 meter) and the fittings for the wall socket and the light. Just tell them you're making a lamp for pottery and need a few cables to make up yourself. The parts are cheap, and you can save $$$ this way. If you have any queries, the electrical store will know exactly what type of cables you need etc, and will be more than happy to give you instructions on how to put it all together.

Please note that this is a guide for regular compact fluoro's. There are some outdoor varieties (which are rare) that need to be fitted specially. This FAQ is written for the regular compact fluoro’s, the ones that are most accessible to the general population. Other varieties of compact fluoro's are hard to find, but may or may not be better for growing. As I have little experience with these rare lights, I cannot comment on them. The reason I haven't seen them before, is because they are almost non-existent where I live.


HOW DO I MAKE A SIMPLE REFLECTOR FOR YOUR COMPACT FLUORESCENT?

To build this reflector you will need a regular soda can, any brand will do, which you will need to rinse thoroughly until no residue is left inside. You will also need a good pair or scissor and a robust kitchen knife to cut the metal accordingly. An alternate method to remove the lid, would be to use a can opener. The lip of the lid can be used, and it will cut it cleanly. These tools should be chosen carefully as they will determine over failure or success of this construction. A lack of caution and a sharp metal edge can be fatal to your fingertips so think twice if your tools are capable of doing the job.



How and where to cut:
Firstly, draw a plan of your cutting path on the outside of the can using a permanent marker or a wax crayon. This will aid you to get a better overview of you plan and to avoid silly mistakes on the way.

Cutting the top part of the can out needs to be done first, adjusting the opening according to the size of your bulb. You do not have to cut it exactly to shape as glue (super or high-temp hot glue) can be used to stick the reflector to the bulb ballast later on. A can opener is the preffered tool for this job. The reflector is purposely not covering the ballast to ensure good aeration and to avoid damage to the ballast components, resulting in a short circuit.

Next, you will need to cut the main part of your soda can in half using your scissors. A hole may need to be drilled first using your kitchen knife to get a good starting point for the scissors.

The inside of the can is coated with a thin plastic layer that should not cause any trouble cutting through the sheet metal. The bottom side of the can does not have to remain in place but leaving it will add stability to the reflector and enhance the reflectivity. An extra hole can be cut into the bottom as well to improve ventilation along the bulb or to connect a 50mm pc-fan to the end.

Lastly, two more cuts have to be made into the sides of the semi-circle reflector to ensure that the sides do not reflect the light back to its origin but rather focus it to where it is needed. The reflector can now be bent according to your light requirements thus making it possible to focus it directly on your plants. If your reflector does not quite fit the bulb yet you can now use glue to stick it to the ballast.


HOW DO I MODIFY MY COMPACT FLUORESCENT?

The main advantages of modifying your compact fluorescent are:
· Reduced length of compact fluorescent
· Reduced heat build up (increased air-flow)
· No need for pre-made light sockets, saving you money

There is an even cheaper and more compact solution than to spend the extra cash on unnecessary light sockets and to end up with less usable space due to clumsy fixtures. All these problems can be avoided easily if one knows how to skips wiring a bulb socket and instead going straight to wiring the bulb itself. This requires some adjustments and modifications of the bulb casing but it can be done by simply following the steps provided.

For this example I will use a 23W Phillips fluoro bulb which is ideally used in confined spaces due to its compact size. The following pictures will illustrate the process of re-wiring this bulb and modifying it to meet the requirements of compact size and low cost.

This is the bulb I was referring to (23W, 1500 lumen)
Notice the upside-down “U” shaped tubes. These will require less airflow to cool the bulb as the air can move freely in between the tubes unlike those of conventional stick-like coils.




First, get a good pair of bending or clamping tongs and squeeze them tightly to the round connector plate of your CP fluoro and gently twist it off.

Never twist it off in a COMPLETE circular motion as the wires inside are still attached to the receptor plates and can sometimes break/rip if you apply too much pressure by twisting. Pulling is better than twisting. You will end up with two different wires sticking out the end. In this case, I cut the remaining plastic bit off in order to reduce the overall length of the bulb.

You will need to open the bulb ballast in order to make 2 separate holes in the plastic casing of the bulb for the two wires. This isn't hard at all, you simply need to drive a screwdriver in between the upper and the lower part of the casing and gently push them apart. There will be no glue required to stick them back together as the bulb has a push-slide-lock mechanism that simply snaps them back together. When you open the bulb, you should something similar to this even though not all ballasts are the same, depending on the manufacturer.



Now you need to drill two holes at the appropriate height for the two wires to be pulled through. Since its plastic that isn't all that hard either and can even be done with a pair of scissors.









After that, its just about putting the pieces back together and making sure the wires come through their designated hole. You can use hot glue to hold those wires in place but this is not recommended as the heat in that area of the bulb casing is very intense. Use only High-Temp glue!






If you are short of space or simply want a rigid construction, you can cut the bottom plastic part of the bulb of and use a bigger piece to distribute the weight more evenly. I used med-high temperature translucent hot glue to fit a piece of a 2” black PVC pipe onto the end of the bulb thus completely eliminating the need for a socket. This is just an optional step, as the bulb will hold without the extra support by simply gluing the sawed-off end to the predestined wall.

(ATTENTION: DO NOT USE the regular LOW TEMP Hot glue as it will melt at temperatures above 130 degrees Celsius which the bulb is capable of generating. ONLY, when gluing something DIRECTLY to the bulb casing, USE THE MEDIUM-HIGH temp. Hot glue, which will withstand significantly higher temperatures.)

Voila the final product of which you can wire as many in series or parallel as you desire. You can place these bulbs literally anywhere due their compact size and the low heat production, keeping in mind that the bare minimum between leaf tips and bulb should be 1cm (2/5 of an inch). Anything closer will result in prompt or delayed leaf burn.




This is just an example of how well suited these bulbs are for small spaces such as stealth boxes and small cloning chambers. It also illustrates the importance of ventilation as the smaller the box, the stronger the ventilation has to be to exchange the hot air buildup sufficiently.


This method is ideal for those who wish to wire a number of bulbs without spending even more money on bulb sockets. These might seem cheap when compared to the pricing of the bulb, but in the log run it is better to save a few bucks here and instead invest them in another area of growing or even another bulb. There is no need to have a possibility of replacement as the average lifetime guarantee on these bulbs lie between 10000 and 15000 hours, which means nearly two years of continuous use.

Wiring in CF's parallel:(Image by tipzijuana)




HOW MUCH LIGHT DO I NEED TO VEG CANNABIS PROPERLY?

It all depends on what light you are using, if it’s HID, standard fluoro or compact fluoro (I assume you're not using halogens!). For HID (HPS or MH) lighting, use roughly 30w per square foot, and for flowering use around 60w per square foot. This is merely a guide, your plant, light height; reflective surfaces etc make a huge difference on these numbers. For a small plant, below 1ft tall, I’d say you would need at least 25w of fluorescent light. I find that it isn't at all practical to use tube fluoro’s for the vegetative stage past 6 inches, as only the top of the plant is receiving enough light to carry out photosynthesis properly.

Using an energy saving compact fluoro will help 'push' the light to the base of the plant, assisting photosynthesis. If the plant indicates it needs more light by growing slowly, and with small leaf petioles, you may need more light. Go with the basic rule of keeping the fluoro’s very close, and using roughly 20-30w per square foot for strong vegetative growth. If you can afford to over-light your grow room, why not? You wont regret it when your plant is bushy and healthy. If you feel that you need to only purchase a minimum amount of lights, you probably shouldn’t be growing.

Growing takes effort and money, and if you can't support a plants needs you might as well just forget growing until you can afford a proper setup. Skimping on lights is the biggest mistake a grower can make, because photosynthesis is so important to for a health plant.


THE TRUTH ABOUT WATT RATINGS

When purchasing a compact fluorescent, you will notice that nearly all of them have a larger number on the box, than what it actually is. This number is the lights comparison to the brightness of a standard incandescent globe. Do not be fooled, this does not mean that the light is 100w! It is most likely around 18w.

Now, here is where the myth behind these lights is uncovered. Most people will say that you should totally discard the brightness rating. This is wrong! The brighter a light is, the more penetration it has. With a usual, run-of-the-mill compact fluorescent (say, 15w) it emits only 15w of light with poor penetration. An energy saving compact fluorescent with 15w of light, which is rated to 100w of light, will only emit 15w of light. The difference between the two is, the energy saving light has a much stronger light penetration of the normal one, while still only emitting 15w of light.

This is beneficial to growers because with a larger plant, a normal 15w compact fluoro will sufficiently light one part of the plant, and by the time the light has reached the other side of the plant, so much of the light has been lost that it is barely worth having. With the energy saving compact fluorescents, the light will travel to the other side of the plant, and still have enough intensity for reasonable results.


HANGING YOUR LIGHTS OVER YOUR PLANTS

Keep these lights under a reflector all of the time to concentrate the light onto the plant. Hang them horizontally, as most of the light is given off by the middle of the tubes. Keep them close to the plants. As a general rule of thumb, 1 inch away from the top of the plant is perfect. Any more, and you're wasting your time, and less and you risk burning your plant (although these lights are very cool, it is possible to burn your plant if it touches the light or ballast for an extended period of time). If you're given the option, go for a few compact fluoro’s positioned around the plant, as opposed to 1 strong light at the top. Positioning lights around the plant help stop vertical stretching, and encourage the plant to bush out.


WHY IS A HID "BETTER" THAN A COMPACT FLUORESCENT?

HID lighting is generally accepted as a better light for growing cannabis for a few reasons...
· It has much better light penetration
· It is much more powerful (higher lumen output)
· It is stronger in light spectrums suited for growing plants

What can we do to combat these problems to make the most out of our fluoro’s?

· Use a good reflector. Desk lamp reflectors are perfect, along with coke cans (cut in half from top to bottom).
· Purchase lights with high energy saving capabilities (e.g. high watt ratings)to increase light penetration
· Purchase lights with suitable spectrum strengths for each phase of growing (eg warm white, cool white etc.)
· Keep the lights close to maximize intensity

NOTES:

· For good results, these lights must be used with a good quality reflector. They give of 360 degrees of light (in a 2D cross-section) but you will only really need 90 degrees of light (maximum). Building a reflector will help concentrate all the light to the area needed, instead of wasting it lighting up the ceiling of your grow room!

· Although you can successfully grow and flower a cannabis plant under a fluorescent, your results will be poor and you will most likely be disappointed. Use these lights only for seedlings and clones, and perhaps the vegetative stage of the cycle. A HID light is recommended for flowering.​
 

EmtMdwestPipes

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After 10 yrs of telling myself I'm not addicted to weed..ahem....I have now decided to take that giant leap into growing. Because of my profession I rely on a little 'nip' here and there to ease that days troubles, much like my father and grandfather sitting down with a glass of scotch/irish whiskey.

Living in the midwest has left me with unreliable sources and questionable quality. I'm looking to only have 1 or 2 plants at a time because of space/odor restrictions (I live in a closely built neighborhood) and possible visits from the in-laws. It seems like I'm going to need to have a checklist to make sure everything is accounted for (and judging by the 'you know your a stoner' list, it should ALL be written down). My wife has a great 'greenthumb' and said that she'll help just to stop my bitching when things go dry....great motivation.

I'm just trying to be efficient and don't need to over do it. I would just like to have something around for myself and be able to give some to friends traveling through to brighten their day.

This site is the bee's knees! I hope I can post some pics in the next few weeks!

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snipsnip

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my plants are about 12" tall and i pruned the fan leafs and left the other small ones that grow above them . i left the top fan leafs at the very top did i screw up?
 

snipsnip

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i pruned my plant cut off all the fan leafs but the very top i left smaller leafs the grow just above the main fan leafs.did i screw up
 
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