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Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
one more on FLIR... if you're insanely curious as to what your place looks like on FLIR, you can rent FLIR cameras. Check Google or the phone book for scientific measurement equipment rentals in your area. It'll cost you about $200-300 for a day's use, but if it makes you sleep better, go for it.
 

dirtysteve

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Sorry for the confusion Al. The grow is in the house not the attic. just using the attic to vent into/through. I am going to pump carbon filtered air through a roof vent. The only thing I was going to dump in the attic was the heat from the cool tubes. This is my set up https://www.rollitup.org/introduce-yourself/173590-sup-foos.html
I am not using a 400W HPS for mothers, rather a 250W MH. Other than that it is pretty legit. No multiple strains until I get one dialed in. Thinking Cheese from AMS. Any way. Thats what I got.
 

10mm fan boy

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When I mix up a new batch of soup, I put the H202 in the water first and then wait 20 min. before I add anything else. Is this necessary?

If so, what about when I add new H202 every 3-4 days? Should I NOT be adding it full strength like I have been?

Can you please confirm if an air stone will introduce pathogens or anything bad into the water or not?

thanks
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GypsyBush

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Hi gypsy.. hey that first bud shot you just posted(3rd picture from the top) is that blueberry?
Sorry Bro... it's Bagseed... :eyesmoke:

And since I am shameless... everyone here knows that...lol...:hump:

I just want to say THANK YOU! to AL B. FUCT...

I have 2 months with an Aerogarden and 5 months doing Ebb Flow...

A grand total of 7 months + Al's teachings = what you see here...

This is a more current view of things... taken 2 days ago...

If I can do it, ANYONE can...:hump:

THANK YOU AL!!!

:joint::peace:

:leaf:So we'll start with the group shots:leaf:

























































... and we move on to the portraits...:hump:







































































































Ps. I promise to stop clogging the airways now..:lol: :joint::bigjoint:
 

iloveit

Well-Known Member
one more on FLIR... if you're insanely curious as to what your place looks like on FLIR, you can rent FLIR cameras. Check Google or the phone book for scientific measurement equipment rentals in your area. It'll cost you about $200-300 for a day's use, but if it makes you sleep better, go for it.
Ive been asking many people about FLIR but they didnt quite know what advice to give, you summed it up & about the FLIR camera rental why didnt I think of that?
Your words are always constructive iloveit!

Thanks again uncle Al :hug:


Im planning a grow op in a new house where Ill be blowing all the heat from the grow room & the cool tubes to another dormant room where itll be cooled with an air conditioner then extracted outdoors. Im just wondering if the air will be cooled fast enough before it sucked outdoors otherwise the itll be pointless. Do you have any methods or advice to achieve the aim?

Sorry if my explanations rusty...to busy getting high during those tuition lessons in English back in the day.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
hey Al.. what proxy do you use
I use a private, paid VPN with POPs in the US & UK. I'd never use a 'free' proxy. Many (if not most) of them are honeypots designed to harvest passwords, credit card numbers and any other private data they can get. There's no such thing as a free lunch- ever.

Yes, the sysop of a free proxy and that of a paid relay service both have equal access to whatever plaintext I run through them. However, the big difference between a free service and a pay-for-play VPN is that the paid service is legally beholden in the contract I have with them to not violate my privacy- and I can hang 'em from the legal lampposts if they do. The freebie outfits generally disclaim any liability in lieu of you being able to use their 'free' service.

Sorry for the confusion Al. The grow is in the house not the attic. just using the attic to vent into/through. I am going to pump carbon filtered air through a roof vent. The only thing I was going to dump in the attic was the heat from the cool tubes.
Oh, ok, I see! Yes, dumping waste air into a large intermediate airmass like an attic or crawlspace is a great way to go. This both drops the temp of the waste air and distributes it more or less evenly through several vents. This is a very good way to mask the IR sig of the exhaust air.

When I mix up a new batch of soup, I put the H202 in the water first and then wait 20 min. before I add anything else. Is this necessary?
No. H2O2 is highly miscible in water and will mix in very quickly.


Can you please confirm if an air stone will introduce pathogens or anything bad into the water or not?
Bacteria, virii, mould & fungus spores are absolutely everywhere on this planet. An awful lot more of them will simply drop out of the air and into your open topped tank than will ever get drawn through an air pump, though, merely by virtue of the difference in area between the air pump intake and the area of the surface of the water in the tank. If you're using H2O2, pathogens are not a problem anyway, no matter what way they get into the tank.


I just want to say THANK YOU! to AL B. FUCT...
You're welcome! :D

Ive been asking many people about FLIR but they didnt quite know what advice to give, you summed it up & about the FLIR camera rental why didnt I think of that?
Your words are always constructive iloveit!

Thanks again uncle Al

We aim to please. ;)


Im planning a grow op in a new house where Ill be blowing all the heat from the grow room & the cool tubes to another dormant room where itll be cooled with an air conditioner then extracted outdoors. Im just wondering if the air will be cooled fast enough before it sucked outdoors otherwise the itll be pointless. Do you have any methods or advice to achieve the aim?
Let me see if I have you right... duct out of op, into a room with a window aircon unit, then have a window open to allow the pressure from the op's main blower to escape outdoors, right? If you don't leave a window open in that room, the air ducted to the room's got nowhere to go and airflow from the op will slow or stop. Where there's a goesin, there's got to be a goesout- or it goesnowhere. I'd rather see you dump waste air into an attic as dirtysteve plans. The intermediate attic airmass, simply by virtue of being big and poorly insulated from atmospheric, will spread out the heat from the op and drop its temperature. The numerous attic vents will then distribute the cooled air out to the atmosphere, making it a lot harder to discern as a grow op exhaust. Venting into the attic will also muffle the exhaust fan noise quite a lot.
 

MediMary

Well-Known Member
do you have a recommended company to use for proxy.. (sorry im not to computer savy) I havnt posted any of my grows before, but this next go around I will once I figure this out..
thanks again al, for everything you have done for RIU...
big hug
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
None particularly; I can't really tell you who I am using, either. Just find a VPN service that doesn't cost much (under $100/yr) and lets you move as much data as you need to without excess data fees.
 

SOG

Well-Known Member
Pinging rollitup.org [67.220.198.70] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 67.220.198.70: bytes=32 time=176ms TTL=53
Reply from 67.220.198.70: bytes=32 time=176ms TTL=53
Reply from 67.220.198.70: bytes=32 time=176ms TTL=53
Reply from 67.220.198.70: bytes=32 time=177ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 67.220.198.70:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 176ms, Maximum = 177ms, Average = 176ms
your prob getting these network timeouts due to your VPN tunneling (clients are usually very sensetive)
i suggest you increase your TTL to 255, make sure your MTU is set properly
you can also activate MTU discovery and or black hole detection

:joint::peace:
 

DeweyKox

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Dam, I just ping the same ip and get good result. On wifi too. But my probelm is my DNS issues with the new firmware in my router, should have never fucked with it! :(
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
your prob getting these network timeouts due to your VPN tunneling
I'd agree with you if other RIU users weren't also having problems, independent of ping times. I can disable routing through VPN and still have problems accessing RIU. It's not network connectivity- it looks more like the server running RIU can't cope with the number of access reqs.
 

iloveit

Well-Known Member
I use a private, paid VPN with POPs in the US & UK. I'd never use a 'free' proxy. Many (if not most) of them are honeypots designed to harvest passwords, credit card numbers and any other private data they can get. There's no such thing as a free lunch- ever.

Yes, the sysop of a free proxy and that of a paid relay service both have equal access to whatever plaintext I run through them. However, the big difference between a free service and a pay-for-play VPN is that the paid service is legally beholden in the contract I have with them to not violate my privacy- and I can hang 'em from the legal lampposts if they do. The freebie outfits generally disclaim any liability in lieu of you being able to use their 'free' service.



Oh, ok, I see! Yes, dumping waste air into a large intermediate airmass like an attic or crawlspace is a great way to go. This both drops the temp of the waste air and distributes it more or less evenly through several vents. This is a very good way to mask the IR sig of the exhaust air.
Your probably thinking thats a little extreme, yep your right butt thats nothing check out my signature. Its easy to tell Im totally paranoid.



No. H2O2 is highly miscible in water and will mix in very quickly.




Bacteria, virii, mould & fungus spores are absolutely everywhere on this planet. An awful lot more of them will simply drop out of the air and into your open topped tank than will ever get drawn through an air pump, though, merely by virtue of the difference in area between the air pump intake and the area of the surface of the water in the tank. If you're using H2O2, pathogens are not a problem anyway, no matter what way they get into the tank.




You're welcome! :D




We aim to please. ;)




Let me see if I have you right... duct out of op, into a room with a window aircon unit, then have a window open to allow the pressure from the op's main blower to escape outdoors, right? If you don't leave a window open in that room, the air ducted to the room's got nowhere to go and airflow from the op will slow or stop. Where there's a goesin, there's got to be a goesout- or it goesnowhere. I'd rather see you dump waste air into an attic as dirtysteve plans. The intermediate attic airmass, simply by virtue of being big and poorly insulated from atmospheric, will spread out the heat from the op and drop its temperature. The numerous attic vents will then distribute the cooled air out to the atmosphere, making it a lot harder to discern as a grow op exhaust. Venting into the attic will also muffle the exhaust fan noise quite a lot.
Ah yes, is there any reason to cool the air in the attic to lower the temp of the air flowing outside to decrease heat signature?
 

ldnsharkkid

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Hey Al....

Dunno if you remember me but i started growing and posting on RIU back in september last year and asked you a few questions which u kindly responded to, and then just when i got to grips with things you left RIU but luckily all ur threads are still here otherwise i would have been doomed.

Ok at the time i had an XXL Budbox growin some Great White Shark, which i eventually pulled about 300g's off which wasnt bad for my 1st ever grow and it was some dank ass bud....

Now ive moved onto bigger and better things and i based my current setup on your 'get a harvest every 2 weeks' thread. The only difference is i stuck with budbox's instead of sealing off a room completely, and i think its worked out quite well. Ive got 2 trays up and runnin im about to stcik in the 3rd tray as i have 30 rooted clones......but i do have a few q's for you if you would be so kind as to lend me your opinion....

1) Have u never thought of using an aerocloner? My OP is exactly the same as yours in theory, 4 tables 2 weeks etc, except i use an aerocloner and i get perfect roots within 10 days. I only ask because i know you have to ater your rockwool everyday and im guessing it can be a pain, whereas the aerocloner simply chop them put them in the cloner and voila massive roots 10 days later.....??

2) Instead of using 2 x 1000w lights i have used 4 x 600w (only 3 up and runnin at mo over 3 tbls) in cooltubes but with the standard crappy cooltube reflector, do you think if i made some batwing reflector this would increase growth/yield?

3) Are u still using same nutes ie Canna Vega Flores and PK 13/14 and nothing else?

4) I have been waitin to find someone who grows mothers aswell as im havin problems keepin my mothers so short, my mothers at mo are burnin on the cooltube at times until i prune and i cant get it any higher, whats the trick? How long does a rooted clone take to mature enough to be able to donate cuttings?

I know i speak for a lot of people on RIU and other silent users aswell but you have provided a lot of people with inspiration to go hydro and learn what needs to be learnt in terms of ppm, ph, lighting, venting, etc etc......and i hope that you have been enjoying life since you left and that u are achieving everything you wanted to. I actually used your name in my grow jounal title, as it is solely based on your op and currently im about to get my 1st harvest in about a week. Unfortunately its not fully up and running for every 2 weeks but it will be soon, so the next harvest is 3 weeks after the 1st batch and then after that it should be every 2 weeks, but have a look in my journal in my sig and see what you think.

Oh and lastly just another Q if im not bothering you too much....i havent cut bottom 1/3rd of any of my plants as ive been a bit afraid to, does it make a massive difference and or what effects does it have on the plant during the flowering period.....

Thanks again Al sorry for the long post its just i never thought id have the chance to pick ur brains again and now i see your back for a week, so i wanna gain as much knowledge as i can before ur gone again.......

Regardless of growing or forums etc i hope you are enjoying yourself on ur new adventure be safe and be lucky....

kiss-asskiss-asskiss-asskiss-ass:peace::peace::peace::peace:
 

SOG

Well-Known Member
I'd agree with you if other RIU users weren't also having problems, independent of ping times. I can disable routing through VPN and still have problems accessing RIU. It's not network connectivity- it looks more like the server running RIU can't cope with the number of access reqs.
you are correct Al. the server cannot handle with the traffic
and so it Spools and FIFO the clients sessions, with long latencies
it is your VPN client that cuts off the waiting period
i rarely get timed out, not to say the site inst slow at time
the server maintains the sessions 90% of the time

you can check on any site up time and status here

:joint::peace:
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
it is your VPN client that cuts off the waiting period
Once more with feeling: the problem occurs for either WITH or WITHOUT piping through my VPN. Other users who are not using VPN are having the problem. It's RIU's server, NOT network connectivity probs.

Al, you have the patience of Job.
Not true! I'm impatient with all Jobs, notably Steve. :lol:

Ah yes, is there any reason to cool the air in the attic to lower the temp of the air flowing outside to decrease heat signature?
Depends upon how much heat you're dumping. If you've got 10kW of lighting, it might be worth doing. Also, if you're running that much light, you're commercial enough to have an awful lot to lose- and also to be able to afford the heroics. If you have a couple kW of lighting, no, it's probably not worth doing.

pssst- you quoted a lot more text than you wrote. Pls consider if it's necessary to quote that much, or at all.

1) Have u never thought of using an aerocloner?
I've never had good luck with them. If you do, cool.

do you think if i made some batwing reflector this would increase growth/yield?
A larger reflector will direct light presently illuminating your walls onto your plants. how much difference will that make? Hard to tell, really. More light is gooder in all cases, though.

3) Are u still using same nutes ie Canna Vega Flores and PK 13/14 and nothing else?
yep
4) I have been waitin to find someone who grows mothers aswell as im havin problems keepin my mothers so short, my mothers at mo are burnin on the cooltube at times until i prune and i cant get it any higher, whats the trick?
When you're pruning up the mums after doing a batch of cuttings, be ruthless. Don't allow the mums to get tall. You can take off almost all the foliage (bar a few leaves) on the mum and it will still rebound enough togive you plenty of cuts in 2 weeks.

How long does a rooted clone take to mature enough to be able to donate cuttings?
Depending on the vigor of the new mum, around 2-4 weeks post putting it under some serious light.

Oh and lastly just another Q if im not bothering you too much....i havent cut bottom 1/3rd of any of my plants as ive been a bit afraid to, does it make a massive difference and or what effects does it have on the plant during the flowering period.....
Removing the branching on the lower 1/3 of the flowering plants definitely makes a huge difference. You waste a lot less time manicuring silly little popcorn buds from the lowers which yield very poorly compared to those higher up the stem, but which still take as much time to manicure as the uppers. Proper pruning of lower branching removes obstruction to airflow around the plants, reducing the possibility of powdery mildew and other probs. It also allows you to get more stalks in the strongest part of the light pattern. I agree that it's hard to establish the habit of removing the lower branches, but you're not giving away much yield in exchange for better avg bud size and less time spent mucking about manicuring popcorn.

BTW, have I ever told you how much I hate this smiley?

Just so you know, I hate it a LOT.
 
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