Wet floors?

zem

Well-Known Member
So all you guys talking about this runoff table, any threads on a DIY guide. Im in the same situation, to the point i dont water sometims because i know it takes at least an hour.
pretty simple, all you would need is a vineyl sheet and a drain on a flat board above ground with a closed jug under to catch from the drain pipe. i have a whole tote for flood/drain(hydro) in my sig below but in a soil setup you only need a flat sheet not even a whole tote like mine...
 

SCCA

Active Member
the corrugated drain table is a simple solution but can be a bit messy. you can use large cat litter pans plumbed together as drain trays. use tubing to connect them then you can unroll a length and run it outside when you water or drain it into a bucket or bathtub.
 

Murfy

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if the closet is on the first floor and you can access the plumbing you could install a mop sick.
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Wolverine97

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weedslv, Hi,
U would never empty them, since it just to catch the run off. I mean, at the most one cup?? It will be passively wicked up in a very short time.
You want residuals to flush out with the runoff though, which can't happen if you let the plant soak it back up. Microbes in the soil produce waste just like all other organisms, and there's always some level of salt residues.
 

JLStiffy

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Hi, what residuals are u talking about? The feed that u just placed into the medium via your nuts? Or are you talking about the build up of salts? U dont get salt build up, or at least very little if you cut back the feed regime from the manufactures.
Also, we are talking about little run off! And if its alot than you are not watering right. Just that simple. Your plants will be drawing on the low levels of soil moister, no good. Got to have some weight in your medium! That is true for several reasons, but more importantly, u never give your plants frets if you medium is dry. Their is no argument against the 'abc' of growing! I mean, we are not talking about MG people, thats a different story- ITS an outside formula!!
In all fairness, their is no fear of salt build up if you follow a feed feed water and cut back the nuts a bit. And if u flush everything right now, how do u give you plants the chance to uptake nut's via the soils net work system? Instead they are just getting the love they need by the hydroponic frets made instant avail.
About the organizes producing waste and drying off, thats great!! The soil cycle is short too!! When microbs do die they store plant avaible macro/mic in their cell walls! Thats there primary way to feed the plant AND by the by-product they produce. Mycocrizz is also very important too, but dont worry if u think they produce any by produces. They dont, they just try and overgrow everything :) Either way, any reader who wants to intake my response, u can get to technical in growing.. They make saucers for a reason! I would not advise using them if u have about 500ML of runn off sitting in them.
Little bit of salt is always good :) just not good for your microbes, so u have to really discount them as active when u use synthetic nuts. What happens is that the microbes get dehydrated ASAP. Much like salt on a leach. Very close to the same response! Their is very good info here that makes everything very simple and it all boils down to- use the soucres if u have a run off problem!!!!
 

Wolverine97

Well-Known Member
Hi, what residuals are u talking about? The feed that u just placed into the medium via your nuts? Or are you talking about the build up of salts? U dont get salt build up, or at least very little if you cut back the feed regime from the manufactures.
Also, we are talking about little run off! And if its alot than you are not watering right. Just that simple. Your plants will be drawing on the low levels of soil moister, no good. Got to have some weight in your medium! That is true for several reasons, but more importantly, u never give your plants frets if you medium is dry. Their is no argument against the 'abc' of growing! I mean, we are not talking about MG people, thats a different story- ITS an outside formula!!
In all fairness, their is no fear of salt build up if you follow a feed feed water and cut back the nuts a bit. And if u flush everything right now, how do u give you plants the chance to uptake nut's via the soils net work system? Instead they are just getting the love they need by the hydroponic frets made instant avail.
About the organizes producing waste and drying off, thats great!! The soil cycle is short too!! When microbs do die they store plant avaible macro/mic in their cell walls! Thats there primary way to feed the plant AND by the by-product they produce. Mycocrizz is also very important too, but dont worry if u think they produce any by produces. They dont, they just try and overgrow everything :) Either way, any reader who wants to intake my response, u can get to technical in growing.. They make saucers for a reason! I would not advise using them if u have about 500ML of runn off sitting in them.
Little bit of salt is always good :) just not good for your microbes, so u have to really discount them as active when u use synthetic nuts. What happens is that the microbes get dehydrated ASAP. Much like salt on a leach. Very close to the same response! Their is very good info here that makes everything very simple and it all boils down to- use the soucres if u have a run off problem!!!!
Do what makes you happy.
 

HuffPuppy

Member
Hopefully this isn't considered a hijack but I have a related issue. My future grow room has concrete floors below grade and I get sepage during heavy rain/thaws. Not a lot of water but if not mopped up it collects on one side of the room about 1" deep. I know its coming from only one wall where the foundation meets. Would that epoxy basement sealant help? Otherwise I was thinking about securing a pressure treated 2x4 about 4" from the leaky wall using a bunch of silicone sealant/adhesive. Basically creating a 4 inch by 12 foot channel between the wall and 2x4 that could be sucked out with a small pump. Or am I fighting a losing battle?
 

Wolverine97

Well-Known Member
Hopefully this isn't considered a hijack but I have a related issue. My future grow room has concrete floors below grade and I get sepage during heavy rain/thaws. Not a lot of water but if not mopped up it collects on one side of the room about 1" deep. I know its coming from only one wall where the foundation meets. Would that epoxy basement sealant help? Otherwise I was thinking about securing a pressure treated 2x4 about 4" from the leaky wall using a bunch of silicone sealant/adhesive. Basically creating a 4 inch by 12 foot channel between the wall and 2x4 that could be sucked out with a small pump. Or am I fighting a losing battle?
Sealcoating it will help somewhat, maybe a lot depending on just how the water is getting through. The channel idea could work together with a condensate pump made for a dehumidifier if you totally boxed it in at the end, then the pump kicks on once water reaches 1/4" or so.
 

HuffPuppy

Member
I have about 3 gallons of Zinsser mold and mildew waterproofing paint that I was going to put on the walls and floor anyway. Slop in on really thick in 2 or 3 heavy coats. Its rated for 10lbs of hydrostatic pressure which might be enough alone. I figure I'd put that on after I seal with the epoxy and see what happens. Use the channel as a last resort if I still have problems. If I do have seepage, should I be worried about anything funky riding in with it? It's just ground/rainwater seepage but it is going through dirt to get into the room.
 

endogarden

New Member
Wet/Dry Shop Vac with built in pump for under $100 is the way to go for me, lets me clean the grow room and remove any liquid I need to from the veg or flower rooms. Emptying rezs is a breeze, just suck it dry, fill up a little water, shake that shit around, suck it dry again, refill for 0ppm increase over your water supply's normal ppm.
 
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