What am I thinking? What should I do?

First off.... this is STRICTLY to refer to the forum rules... so forum rules and anything politically forum related I would like to address here, this has NOTHING to do with my post. I know I have a second thread going, take a moment to look... and the last thing Dirtsrfr said on that. Or more specifically the meme he posted. What that meme is inferring is what that entire thread turned into because of whatever reasons. I would like to try again... because I SWEAR TO YOU that I want your help. Even if you hate me, and dont want to hear what I have to say... I want your help. Please. You dont have to give it to me, just know that I want it. Its all I want. I am not trying to do any trick with the forum... gain popularity... or get posts and mark ups... nor am I trying to break the rules... I am JUST putting myself away from the other post. Additionally... I posted a lot of replies to this thread... that are blank. They have a purpose, I am not just being stupid. I SWEAR I do not have ulterior motives that differ from me just wanting you to give me your help. Also, this post is for posting things about what I am talking about. If you are responding to another persons post that is referring to what my post is about... or mentioning it in any way. Or ever turning into a bickering contest about whos opinions are correct. We want a debate that hopefully leads to greater understanding for me and you guys. Thanks.






I thought about this a lot last night… I broke down and cried at one point…. Begging my friend to tell me what was REALLY in his brain… begging him… and he told me one thing: “Well yeah, I felt paranoid when I first began smoking, of course I did everyone does.” This was the first time I have ever heard… someone who I know has said on many occasions that he started smoking outdoors… with other people… and had a good time with it right from the get go. Was it because he was embarrassed about it? Was it because he wanted to show off to his friend who hasn’t smoked much but isn’t having crazy times smoking pot for the first time? We will never know what he really thinks… but that’s fine. Because I cried not because I was right… at least not about the thing you think I’m so happy about being right about…. Kind of.
You do not see my perspective… and I have to go into grave detail to say my perspective… because people think about what I have to say with ulterior thoughts that they wont admit they have. Not all people… maybe not even lots of people… but people do. My opinion is that it is most people, but I could be wrong because I don’t know people’s thoughts even if they tell me them.
When I cried just then… I was crying because him admitting that… is helping to prove my thought that people lie to themselves, and he is a very nice guy that wouldn’t lie when it came down to it… yet he still does… except on this one occasion… when I stood before him… high as fuck… preaching to him about the things he has forgotten when he does shrooms or acid.

And you seeing what I wrote literally in me telling you about me crying… is you focus on the word crying or you focus on whatever it is you focus on…. And you either…. Think you know what im talking about… and say to yourself something like “Well yeah, he proved him wrong so he felt good to win his argument.” Or you think what you’re supposed to feel good because he won his argument - by reading the whole thing then making your choice on what to believe which. Or you read everything I said and you didn’t take it in for some other reason, your perspective, and didn’t accept it and then said your opinion on it, or you saw how I wrote and didn’t like something about it and started saying thinking wrong or you didn’t something else that I didn’t mention. Or you think that because your thought isn’t listed that I’m stupid and wrong. But that doesn’t make me wrong, that just makes me ignorant. Show me what I did wrong… but agree with what I said… because if you don’t do that then all other people… like anti marijuana people and of course any of the MANY types of people both stoners, master stoners, master shroom heads, people who have never tried drugs, people who have never tried drugs and think they are ok to do, and people who think they are master stoners but are only average and wont admit it due to their own ego that they do or dont know they have (most dont I would imagine?). ALL of you can benefit from reading this… or you can benefit me from reading this and responding. Or you can not benefit me from this situation because of one of the problems I have mentioned.. or am going to mention. And just because I didn't mention that reason, DOES NOT MEAN I'M WRONG or my information was invalid for whatever reason. You NOT taking the time to see my perspective WITHOUT your perspective involved is the ONLY outcome in which we BOTH dont learn for sure. You seeing my perspective and agreeing does not automatically mean you know everything about the situation aswell.



OR you see how crazy my post looks and try but cant get through it because you are you just don’t get my opinion OR you don’t understand and you don’t get my opinion and don’t get reading it because of you not getting my opinion/ you not understanding OR you think im stupid, feel you have read thoroughly (and you may have) and you disagree. OR its something entirely different.

All I know is… I can’t get my point across… and I have to give all the perspectives… to tell people to learn to see their own perspective and understand all perspectives matter… and to potentially help me in creating a way to see my own ideas… so I can tell other people in a better way so this confusing doesn’t happen. I am asking you guys to HELP me. Please help me. Help me get my point across by seeing things that I say from all angles and rereading them over and over till you get them. Make comments before... and after you reread multiple times... the more times you read... the more different you speak to me... sometimes. This rule is not 100 percent conclusive, I am not god, nor do I think I am super awesome, I am just trying to figure things out, so please tell me your real opinions about this.. and examples that I give you in the future and anywhere on this post.

I’ll tell you a story about how I came to the conclusion of something…. I don’t know if it is it… but it feels like what I’m trying to unlock from my brain.

I was having a heated argument with my girlfriend and she told me something and stormed out of the room with it. I had interrupted her a few times…. And I believe my interruptions led to her eventually becoming angry and saying what was really on her mind instead of her just thinking I’m a deranged person from the drugs I was doing (I was being a deranged person, but I wasn’t being deranged from the drugs [I had my shroom friend in the room who had done shrooms, and wasn’t high at the moment, I paid him $20 do give me his true thoughts and got very connected with him while he was not high {we had a moment, so I can tell for near certain he was telling the truth when he says I was making sense and the non-high person had to listen}])




“$20 do give me his true thoughts” I omitted this part because in the above paragraph. I am aware that SAYING I gave $20 to my friend makes it seem like I was influencing his decision… by paying him to answer my questions how I ask them, so I took it out so you wouldn't cast doubt just because you hear $20. Because in reality I gave him $20 to listen to a set of jokes… and when the punch line comes up… have him instantly break them down for us. That had nothing to do with where we went 4 hours AFTER that took place. If I had said “I gave my friend $20 and also got very connected with him” you would assume OR you would INFER OR you would not realize its effecting how you interpret it because you didn’t read the information because you either AGREED with it or you DISAGREED with it OR something else. But often times its one of these, and if I didn’t say this part you would disagree and REFUSE to believe what I am saying SIMPLY because I said the word ALL or because I said I gave my friend $20 to answer some questions then we had an experience together for quite a few hours after, instead of defining it perfectly as the events took place.... because I thought saying anything about that $20 would make you guys think about it.... so I don't let you by removing it from the paragraph. So if I don’t say things right, exactly the way every perspective wants to hear, someone will respond in a negative way. Smart…. Dumb… middle… upper middle… lower lower middle… whatever you are or you think you are. Its all negatively impacting my statements and others statements to make change difficult. You being any rate of intelligence does not mean you are exempt from what I'm saying. Especially on the topic of Marijauna. Or shrooms. Or any drug. Meaning you thinking it should be legal... and having the WRONG opinions... makes you wrong. Period. Change your opinions if you need to... and say only the truth.

I believe pot should be legal and open to everyone over a certain age, and I believe shrooms should be legal… in a very regulated setting. I believe that because it will help you see more of the perspectives of the world AND I believe if you do believe this you should TELL EVERYONE and not argue with people who are slightly wrong. OR if you ARE slightly wrong and you hear someone tell you you’re wrong… think about it from their perspective and reform your opinion based off what you learn. Don’t let pride get in the way… even subconsciously. The subconscious lets NUMBERS beat us. A LOT of people don’t want to try and change the world because they think its hopeless or because they think it wouldn’t matter if they did anything, or some other reason. I don’t know how many for sure, you’re right, but AGAIN that’s not my point… is it? And it just proved my point you disagreeing?

And I also believe that if you read these paragraphs… and you believe in the legalization of weed… you stop HALF WAY through the above paragraph CARING. Subconsciously. If you want to help prove it to me now… don’t read the post above again… and write in the box below… Or if you already went up by mistake, admit you did before this and how well you looked at it and for how long, and say what you remember of the paragraph and what you think of the final paragraph stated in its entirety.

*Do NOT read FURTHER make sure you respond before you go further. You MAY private message me instead of posting. All I am looking for is information based off your thoughts above. Read what it says and do what it says please.*





















Or if you are one of those people who subconsciously wants people to think you’re smarter… go up… read the post… and word it in great detail.
*Don’t go any further if this is true.*





























Or… if you’re smart… go up… read the post… and word it in slightly good detail to prove you’re smart because you know some of it, or whatever you decided was the right amount based off your ulterior motives.




*Don’t go any further f this is true*






Or just remember it well.

*Stop here and post.*







Or if you do not care what I have to say and read all the way down to this message. Or if you were not any of the things before… write the best paragraph you can about what I was talking about in the final paragraph when I was talking about the legalization of marijuana. You can do this in word pad then copy paste it if needed, just get me your thoughts BEFORE you go further into this thread.

I’ll tell you a story about how I came to the conclusion of something…. I don’t know if it is it… but it feels like what I’m trying to unlock from my brain.

I was having a heated argument with my girlfriend and she told me something and stormed out of the room with it. I had interrupted her a few times…. And I believe my interruptions led to her eventually becoming angry and saying what was really on her mind instead of her just thinking I’m a deranged person from the drugs I was doing (I was being a deranged person, but I wasn’t being deranged from the drugs [I had my shroom friend in the room who had done shrooms, and wasn’t high at the moment, I paid him $20 do give me his true thoughts and got very connected with him while he was not high {we had a moment, so I can tell for near certain he was telling the truth when he says I was making sense and the non-high person had to listen}


“$20 do give me his true thoughts” I omitted this part because I am aware that SAYING I gave $20 to my friend makes it seem like I was influencing his decision… but in reality I gave him $20 to listen to a set of jokes… and when the punch line comes up… have him instantly break them down for us. That had nothing to do with where we went 4 hours AFTER that took place. If I had said “I gave my friend $20 and also got very connected with him” you would assume OR you would INFER OR you would not realize its effecting how you interpret it because you didn’t read the information because you either AGREED with it or you DISAGREED with it OR something else. But often times its one of these, and if I didn’t say this part you would disagree and REFUSE to believe what I am saying SIMPLY because I said the word ALL instead of defining it perfectly. So if I don’t say things right, exactly the way every perspective wants to hear, someone will respond in a negative way. Smart…. Dumb… middle… upper middle… lower lower middle… whatever. Its all negatively impacting my statements and others statements to make change difficult. Especially on the topic of Marijauna. Or shrooms. Or any drug.
I believe pot should be legal and open to everyone over a certain age, and I believe shrooms should be legal… in a very regulated setting. I believe that because it will help you see more of the perspectives of the world AND I believe if you do believe this you should TELL EVERYONE and not argue with people who are slightly wrong. OR if you ARE slightly wrong and you hear someone tell you you’re wrong… think about it from their perspective and reform your opinion based off what you learn. Don’t let pride get in the way… even subconsciously. The subconscious lets NUMBERS beat us. A LOT of people don’t want to try and change the world because they think its hopeless or because they think it wouldn’t matter if they did anything, or some other reason. I don’t know how many for sure, you’re right, but AGAIN that’s not my point… is it? And it just proved my point you disagreeing?




While I’m high… I try to interrupt people because I forget what I was going to say… possibly that makes people think that I think that I am better them them? Or it means nothing and I’m looking too far into it… or it means something and I didn’t find the answer. We won’t know because we don’t know what people I interrupt are really thinking because people lie for alterior motives. White lies? Hence…

Romantist on the outside… realist on the inside. You are the problem, if you aren’t, someone else is… everyone is the problem… and YOU are too. Don’t think you aren’t the problem because you see other people doing that problem… and when you forget that fact…. Remember it when you are blaming others… say something like “I believe too, but I think its pointless to fight because you wont listen.” T doesn’t matter if you’re wrong, it does matter though if they don’t change and they think the wrong things… because they keep talking amongst themselves… and learn nothing because you alienate them OR other reasons. But it does happen… all the time… I have to defend myself everytime it happens because you guys form these stupid little opinions based off information as you’re getting it. You need to paint the pict…. NOT while you’re painting it

People say you shouldn’t say anything before you think about it. That’s not true. You shouldn’t say anything before you’ve done research on it. Yourself. You. Not been told information. Looked for information. And when I say looked for information… you looked for information as if you didn’t have an opinion yet… and you were formulating your opinion right then…. But you weren’t. You form the opinion at the end without bias views because you researched all sides and THEN brought your opinion in.

1. The expression shouldn’t be:

Don’t start painting till you thought about it.
The expression should be:
Don’t start thinking until the painting is completely done.

1. And by painting art… we shouldn’t be painting our opinions before we do research… just as we shouldn’t paint our opinions WHILE we are doing research.

1. And especially not when we only hear the facts from just the people AGAINST drugs or people who don’t care or druggies who don’t want the world to hear them because they hide from the police…

Now I numbered the last 3 things. You guys think I’m crazy but really I think Its because I’m not explaining it enough. The number 1 option is an option. I am saying it to appeal to the people who don’t get my thought. Now if you get to 1 and you think… oh duh yeah I understand the “romanticist on the outside realist on the outside thing” then you wouldn’t care about it and you wouldn’t focus on it OR if you THINK you understand it then you would think the last thing I said didn’t make sense…. And if you think you understand it but you don’t… then this is you. If you move on to 3, you do understand 2 and you don’t care enough to do anything about anything… and if you do that then you move on to number 4 and you do something about it and you see it.

But guess who has the biggest percentage of the country? People against pot for the wrong reasons (whether it be you are against it or don’t advocate it, when you don’t advocate it you don’t convert, when you don’t convert you give a bad lesson to make them keep being bad) OR whether it be something else.

My underlying point is

YOU ARE ONE OF THESE THINGS. Whichever one you are just admit it to the world and do it. If you are in a situation where you’re forced… try to get out of it. I am quitting smoking and doing drugs and growing so I can spread my message. You don’t have to quit… you could just do a little from time to tme…. Or you could keep zigs and buy a dub at a time and just eat it if you get caught. My point is you COULD get away with it and you MIGHT make a difference. You are right, you probably wont, but if EVERYONE thinks like you or rather… if A LOT of people think like you, it lessens our chances of changing the laws.



AND the paradox for me… is if I try to convince you otherwise…. Whatever your view is…

Because theres more than jut the most likely option because you don’t know what they are truly thinking, and you also don’t know how your perspectives and personal experiences are influencing the situation. So the argument… is a paradox. They could be being tricked and made to answer the way the questioner wants to answer… then the information is invalid… and you don’t convince them to change because they aren’t dumb, you just made them look dumb. Or they are dumb… and the think they are smart… and you don’t convince them to change because they are dumb. Or they are smart and think they are smart so they don’t listen to your opinion completely after they start agreeing with you .. and you don’t get their opinion or they are smart and they don’t get your opinion for another reason other than starting to agree with you (don’t care, just mean, anti pot, for pot but think pot should be legal, for pot but don’t understand the ramblings of someone on drugs and some of it is wrong but you get some of the point, anti pot and think the ramblings of this is JUST because of the drugs and no one tells you about it because of whatever reason [against telling them because they think its pointless, or you don’t like them because their dumb because they don’t know what you know, or some other reason]or just a troll or you see this long list of “or’s” and think because you’ve never seen people do this… or because you think its me being high and stupid, or you just see this and don’t think about everything else I say and focus on this… or you do that and think about the rest but don’t respond about the rest. Either way you are not helping change peoples opinions from an ignorant perspective OR you are one of the VERY few who is right about everything and all of their perspective is filled in.

Which is it?

If you have not completely read… over and over this entire post… then I have interest in your posts before you read them more thoroughly… and before you read the comments and what people THINK about it as I think it would influence your opinions and what you say in your post… if you read the comments.

If you didn’t get down to this point before reading comments that is fine, that just means you’re one of the things that is slowing down the advancement of marijuana (and yes also shrooms, but marijuana by itself too) and that you should COMMENT below saying which one you think you might be. OR you are just something else I left out. But don’t feel like you need to say this last one… just because it’s the one that will make you seem best… as far as the context of this forum…. Only say it if its true so I know what your comments are after. And of course… I will never be able to know what you’re truly thinking… and that’s the entire purpose of this thread + a little more. Thank you.

Here are a list of examples that are attempting to show you my view. They are just examples. Dont think into them literally, think into them as if I'm trying to explain something but physically can't.


Example:
My friend also brought up an RCXD went off in his black ops 2. If you know what an RCXD is and you know what it does… then this example can help show you my perspective because you have personal thoughts about it that benefit me.

He said… “You should have seen this, I used my RCXD and it went off right as I used it”
So I said “Wow, someone was right by you and you used your RCXD and it was triggered and killed you but not them?”
He said “No, I just pressed the button and it lagged, so I paniced and it went off and killed me.”
I said “Do you think you accidentally hit the button?”
He said “Yes”

Regardless of if his answer is true or not… he is either lying about his use of the RCXD and pretending he is better then he really is for whatever reason, or he accidentally hit the button.

Either way… I would not have gotten this far… had I not asked if he panicked, and just laughed that his RCXD hit an enemy player and that he used it right when it happened and then tell future people that I saw an RCXD explode on an enemy player just as you were using it… when it reality that did not happen… I just heard him incorrectly. (ruled out the option that a player could have been there by watching theater mode).
Now theres many reasons I could have no asked if he panicked… and if I chose any of those reasons…. I wouldn’t have figured out that he didn’t do what I thought he did… and my opinion would be changed all the way until someone else used an RCXD in a private game next to that player and made them explode.
Get my point?

This is my post. If you have read the rest of the stuff…. Participated in the post… and are in my favor (no matter what category you fall into, tell me what you think, even if you are in my favor for the wrong reasons)… or are against my favor (tell me what your reasons are… and why you are against my opinions). I wrote this BEFORE I wrote the thing you guys just wrote… so I could get you in the attitude to read this. Because this doesn’t have long trails of no thought in it… to set you up to have no perspective and look at all the perspectives except your own, because your own is based off half truths. And I think that’s why I am so confused… I could be wrong. All I know is I need more perspectives to understand perspective… that just makes good logic lol. Here is what happened after I wrote that crazy post the other night and everyone called me looney I paper you’re about to read…. Then… before posting it… while in word pad… I wrote the above paper to make you have the perspective (no perspective) before you read this. And I’m saying this… because potentially if you didn’t hear what I just sad you could have thought I was just acting crazy… or I was just stupid… or wrong… or whatever… it would influence how you read the next line and I am omitting it from your perspective. Why is a concept that is only done in court rooms so hard to explain and point out everytime you’re trying to do it. The jury needs to be told to omit that information, they cant just forget it…. They just agree they were told to do it. Not all the time, some try to see the perspective from all angles… and some lie and say they do… and some say they do… but have other problems and argue that my point isn’t right instead of arguing that my point is right and they differ from what I think which makes people think I’m wrong who aren’t as enlightened as you.

No more strings of thought, heres the story:





I thought about this a lot last night… I broke down and cried at one point…. Begging my friend to tell me what was REALLY in his brain… begging him… and he told me one thing: “Well yeah, I felt paranoid when I first began smoking, of course I did everyone does.” This was the first time I have ever heard… someone who I know has said on many occasions that he started smoking outdoors… with other people… and had a good time with it right from the get go. Was it because he was embarrassed about it? Was it because he wanted to show off to his friend who hasn’t smoked much but isn’t having crazy times smoking pot for the first time? We will never know what he really thinks… but that’s fine. Because I cried not because I was right… at least not about the thing you think I’m so happy about being right about…. Kind of.
You do not see my perspective… and I have to go into grave detail to say my perspective… because people think about what I have to say with ulterior thoughts that they wont admit they have. Not all people… maybe not even lots of people… but people do. My opinion is that it is most people, but I could be wrong because I don’t know people’s thoughts even if they tell me them.
When I cried just then… I was crying because him admitting that… is helping to prove my thought that people lie to themselves, and he is a very nice guy that wouldn’t lie when it came down to it… yet he still does… except on this one occasion… when I stood before him… high as fuck… preaching to him about the things he has forgotten when he does shrooms or acid.

And you seeing what I wrote literally in the paragraph of me telling I broke down and cried, and told my friend who was in my mind… is you focus on the word crying or you focus on whatever it is you focus on…. And you either…. Think you know what im talking about… and say to yourself something like “Well yeah, he proved him wrong so he felt good to win his argument.” Or you think what you’re supposed to by reading the whole thing then making your choice on what to believe which. Or you read everything I said and you didn’t take it in for some other reason, your perspective, and didn’t accept it and then said your opinion on it, or you saw how I wrote and didn’t like something about it and started saying thinking wrong or you didn’t something else that I didn’t mention. Or you think that because your thought isn’t listed that I’m stupid and wrong. But that doesn’t make me wrong, that just makes me ignorant. Show me what I did wrong… but agree with what I said… because if you don’t all other people… like anti marijuana people… or any of the MANY types of people both stoners, master stoners, master shroom heads, people who have never tried drugs, people who have never tried drugs and think they are ok to do, ALL of you can benefit from reading this… or you can benefit me from reading this and responding. Just you not taking the time to see my perspective WITHOUT your perspective involved. You seeing my perspective and agreeing does not automatically mean you know everything about the situation



OR you see how crazy my post looks and try but cant get through it because you are dumb OR you just don’t get my opinion OR you don’t understand, you don’t get my opinion and don’t get reading it because of it OR you think im stupid, feel you have read thoroughly (and you may have) and you disagree.

All I know is… I can’t get my point across… and I have to give all the perspectives… to tell people to learn to see their own perspective and understand all perspectives matter… and to potentially help me in creating a way to see my own ideas… so I can tell other people in a better way so this confusing jumble of posts, doesn’t happen. I am asking you guys to HELP me. Please help me. If I say whats on my mind... people dont believe me... if I go into detail to prove my points... people dont listen because they dont believe me because it sounds crazy. I KNOW IT DOES!




Did not know I only had 72 hours to edit posts, so I'm just going to put this all out at the same time.





This is my mega example…. This is what I have been leading to.. hopefully to show you my opinion. I wrote ALL of these posts ALL at once… I had 8 page of nonsense… then from midnight to 4:43 I finish up this post. I posted some of the post and then kept writing until I was done. So realize this. I am NOT SAYING this to sound smart. I’m saying this to prove the point that I did not let any of your comments change anything I said. I said it BEFORE you guys commented and was prepared in advance for your rebuttals. Maybe not perfectly… but that was why I showed you the gibberish.. and a little less gibberish as I go…. Because if I just show you my thoughts… no one but a few gets it. Does that mean those few people are smarter than everyone? No. If you read my entire post you would know there are more options than that…. So check out this example.

This example is about rollitup.org so you guys can relate and make it more interesting to read and therefore easier to understand.
If you post a thread on this forum… and you don’t have it automatically signing in for you… you could find yourself logging out during a very long write up… and sign out after you discuss it for a while… and think about it… then.. go back… do all the fixer upers… make all the “aswell”’s in your thread into “as well”’s or whatever it is you do wrong often, that’s what I do wrong a lot. Then get through it… and try to post and it tells you you signed out. So you put your information in… sign in… click on the button that says “click here if you would like to get to the page” and then click there… and once it signs in all you’re info is gone… and it doesn’t post your thread and if you didn’t copy paste your info it is all gone.
In my case… I copied the info… luckily because I have SEEN it happen… but have never told anyone I’ve seen it because I don’t care if other people lose their information enough to say it.

If you know this happens then I don’t need to explain and you know… but if you don’t know this happens then I need to explain and you know AND if you THINK you know what it happens in all its detail then you might not listen entirely to what I have to say and lose out on the important parts… or not think that the important parts are important. Like for example, you might not know that me saying all these “mights” and side points on top of a main point… and you agree with my main point… but because I’m trying to show myself to all perspectives… you aren’t seeing my true perspective… because I cant just outright say to you what I’m feeling… because you put your opinion which may or may not be incorrect first before you read what I and everyone else has to say EVEN if you think you don’t you STILL DO and that keeps all the people that you THINK you are more intelligent then never able to learn.


Now… if you don’t feel that way… you may not understand what I said completely in the example above… so let me explain further what happened in the example with the forum post and you grasping what the example was will help you understand the underlying concept.
When you post on this forum, and you aren’t set to automatically sign in, you can be making a post and when you wait for a little too long (the point where it automatically signs you out for inactivity) you hit post, because it signed you out you were signed out… but not till you left the screen did you know it happened so you could see all your info… and thought it was safe. Then you see on the next page you go “click here if you don’t come to your page in 60 seconds” or whatever it literally says instead of just waiting and when you click there… you sign in… and everything you wrote disappears. But if you wait… and don’t ever click that button… you will either not realize it completely… or youll hit the button one time and have your text copied and pasted and youll NEVER say anything to anyone about it and NO ONE will know.
If anyone here saw the post I made BEFORE I made my main post… that said test…. And you formed an opinion about me based off seeing that test post such as “Hes just trying to get votes for most talkative” or WHATEVER opinion you formulated even one in my favor… you formulated an opinion based off not ALL the information. You should have found what my perspective was BEFORE making your opinion. And people do that to people AND things they believe in. And some (if not most, and if not all) do this kind of thing to things like POLITICS and GAY MARRIAGE (some people think gay marriage isn’t politics, guess what… it is, its not your religion and has nothing to do with it. It is about a persons right… in a country where we have SEPARATION of church and state… and your opinions that you are judging GAYS on is about religion…. Deep down it really is, and if its not… then its something else I pointed out somewhere in this thread). Now I am NOT saying gay marriage should be legal or illegal... And if you brought your opinion about gay marriage or politics into this... then you ARENT READING WHAT I'M SAYING.

So its:

You are letting religion (either deep down or right in the open and not realizing it) effect how you vote for a law that is supposed to have NO RELIGION in it. That’s what our constitution says and just because I cant jump into your mind and prove what I am saying DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD HIDE IT BECAUSE YOU THINK IT MAKES YOU A BAD CHRISTIAN TO ADMIT YOU CAN LET ANOTHER HUMAN DECIDE WHO TO MARRY. That’s right… I just said LET as in ALLOW. Think about that. Now if you are against gay marriage for a different reason… I bet you agree with my opinion that there are SOME people who do this religion thing to vote… and you agree that’s wrong… just like I bet there are some with a perspective that the religion thing in voting has nothing to do with it. But I bet you all agree religion shouldn’t be part of our laws. That’s because you’re not asking yourself the question of what are the other perspectives… and if you are… you’re not answering those questions honestly… and of course… how I end everything MERELY because I can’t prove what I’m saying…. You could also just be against what I’m saying. But you could also be thinking blue purple pink giraffe…. I just cant prove what you’re thinking so I say that… because people argue all day long about me telling they are doing something.



And also the reason I make these long posts… is because people end up sitting their arguing about religion having nothing to do with the state… or religion having nothing to do with the reason why they are against gay marriage…. And they DON’T SEE MY POINT.




Because god DAMN IT this fucking ROCK is a seed. Don’t fucking tell me it’s a rock. Imagine its more than that. (that is from the movie Antz, if you don’t remember it, or you haven’t seen it that’s fine, it doesn’t mean anything except you haven’t seen antz)

You are misinterpreting what I have to say… because you refuse to think that the only way physically possible to change your mind… or the only way I can make myself… to explain this to you… is to use all this very confusing wording that you don’t like so you don’t look into it. Too long, too annoying or whatever.


These are what I believe to be all the potential answers for what I’m thinking about. Now that we have gotten to the ONLY thing I care about in this entire document… tell me…

Which of these potential sounds right? What are your opinions? What do you think is the most accurate of all the possible options including yours and everyone else’s. That is ALL I am asking. NOTHING else that you think matters… matters. The only thing that matters in my head…. Is what I just asked you. And I spent all this time… setting up the line…. Just so I could get the REAL answer from your head. And if you were high… you would INSTANTLY GET THAT and tell me what I want to hear… the FUCKING truth… and if its already the truth youll still tell me (if you are that type of guy that is effected by pot and allows the REAL him to escape when he is smoking, or you may not experience this, this is fine too) but the smoke.
So what I’m saying is… pot is not a problem for some people that smoke it… but it is a problem for others that smoke it… and we probably haven’t done enough research about it to find out…. But from what It seems I am accurate. So any opinion you have… is fucking wrong. Or I’m wrong and am wanting to do research about it like ACTUALLY STUDY HUMANS DOING POT AND SHROOMS and documenting it from YOUR perspective. Explain YOUR perspective. Your REAL perspective, be honest and don’t lie to sound cool and don’t put forth information based off misineterpretation… and don’t just assume you aren’t misinformed… whether it be because you’re 76 and know everything about pot and shrooms… or because you’re 22 and you’re hot shot and know everything there is about pot and shrooms or if you just IN GENERAL think you know things about pot. I would like to do some indepth… research… without using my perspective… and trying to just see theirs… to study information about the drugs and come up with the correct answers for the entire world. I cant do it alone, everyone in the world needs to and we all need to keep doing it… because we are pretty damn sure pot and shrooms aren’t bad for us, and wont hurt us… but not enough studying has been done on all the facts… because people MUCH smarter than me refuse to see others perspectives and don’t listen to them because they are more dumb than they are.
AND because of the misinformation that is out there… leading other people astray too. I heard a comment the other day… I think on this forum… “If you don’t try to make lessons, you are just going to end up being the bad example”. When the A-typical stoner sees that they think “Hah, stupid people trying to push happiness and joy when they just need to smoke weed and relax.” And that’s the problem. Not that the stupid people don’t know they need to smoke weed and relax… they need to smoke weed to UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT OF VIEW!

And that’s why I believe perception is the only information worth knowing.
Because stoners are lost in their perception, just as regular people are lost in their perception. And you get lost in your perception… any time you lie to yourself OR other people… about ANYTHING no matter how small. Depending on its size… it may turn out to matter a small amount… but its VASTLY exponential and can quickly become a giant wave telling you what to DO, SAY, THINK, and ARGUE!

That Is my point. And my question is … is it accurate… and what can I do to say to other people so I don’t have to go into such a long crazy confused method.

And … if you think you can convince other people…. Do it… then tell me about it…. Or better yet show me on another forum. One that isn’t related to pot… but can be related to our topic… just pick one that other people wont guess. Go there… and try to convince people of this opinion. See if you can without mentioning drugs.

I bet you cant. And if you do try to convince someone without talking about drugs… its impossible. But magically when you get on a pot forum… and I say some crazy shit… that you’ve never seen before… and you follow along until you get to the end… you believe me, maybe not everyone, but I did change minds… and I bet you cant. And if you can… tell me HOW. That’s why I am here. Tell me HOW to inform stoners of my view… in a quick way…that they will sit and PONDER with the correct opinion. Specifically stoners right now. If possible just talk about how to inform stoners of my view (if you agree with this, you may also talk about how I am wrong if you believe I am wrong, all I ask is that you point out that you disagree with my opinion and WHY you disagree with it BEFORE you tell me what your opinion is, and be truthful with me… and by being truthful with me… you should be being truthful with yourself).

And realize that I wrote all of this BEFORE I read your comments. Whatever they are… no matter how OBVIOUS it seems that I wrote this responding to a comment… I did not. I wrote the other things first… to make you respond how you are now. But also realize we already had this conversation in another thread…. So you already have preformed opinions, which is fine.

Does this mean that all information and thoughts are invalid due to the inability to tell for sure if they are truth or not? Or maybe deeper still… if I was right… does that mean that all information and thoughts are WRONG because they are based off OPINIONS at some level… and the only information you can get that is accurate is DOING T YOURSELF? If so… then people shouldn’t be allowed to judge drugs before doing them to the extent that we have. And we can never have that option… we can never bring back the kid who said “Hmm, I like this high, It feels good, I’m going to keep going” or the guy who said “Man, this is scary, I’m so paranoid, why cant I have a good time, everyone else is doing it and they can handle their shit… I’ll just not say anything and I’ll handle my shit and be tough”If so… doesn’t that make life not worth living? Don’t you want to stop it from being that way? Don’t you want to change it? If not… tell me how I’m wrong and tell me your thoughts BEFORE you tell me how I’m wrong. Tell me what you believe in… about the subject… then tell me how I’m wrong.

Does this mean that all the thoughts you think… are not the thoughts you really think… because you’re focusing on trying to disprove my thought… instead of proving your own? If so then I described you a long time ago and you are just realizing now that I just proved your subconscious influences how you act, or it proves that you didn’t have a subconscious and you were just fighting for me to lose.. both ways you lose… but still there could be ANOTHER way you’re thinking that I don’t know… and if there is another way… what is it?

Check this conversation out… that happened on the forum… moments after I posted my post… literally 4 minutes… physically not in enough time for him to read what I had to say… he doesn’t know what I’m talking about. So check out how his conversation flows…. Based off the perception of each person you see and how it effects in a tidal wave effect by what Canna Sylvan says and his inability to accept any information that DISAGREES WITH HIS OPINION. SO HE DOESN’T CHANGE! How many of you act just like this guy? Don’t read the information, than laugh at their opinions BECAUSE YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND not because you UNDERSTAND. You cant be AGAINST my opinion if you don’t fucking KNOW IT!

Also understand I am not being rude, I am not trying to insult Canna Sylvan, or anyone else… I’m trying to show you your faults. And it shouldn’t be wrong to show people their faults… if you don’t THEY DON’T CHANGE and that’s my GOD DAMN FUCKING POINT.

Canna Sylvan said:

If, "you like anime." If, "people telling you to shut up is a daily occurance and at times you even tell yourself to shut up." We can all voice our opinion on the DSM and tell it to fuck off! We are way different as Aspies than we are the same as classical autism or an NT. But pretty much all Aspies are more similar to any NT.

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You all can see that what he is saying is an opinion! But ONLY because you’re on the outside. If you were in that situation you would feel the same as him because LOOK AT HIS PERSPECTIVE!!!

Canna Sylvan said:

If, "you like anime." If, "people telling you to shut up is a daily occurance and at times you even tell yourself to shut up." We can all voice our opinion on the DSM and tell it to fuck off! We are way different as Aspies than we are the same as classical autism or an NT. But pretty much all Aspies are more similar to any NT.

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I think people who are against what we believe in, and what I believe in, how dare he speak what he is saying.

We all know he is talking from that perspective… not because I’m right. And that’s another problem, you aren’t looking at the right perspective about me too. You need to trust me, and not infer that I’m wrong based off something you THINK I am thinking.
Canna Sylvan is wrong because hes talking about me being a dumbass and he didn’t READ MY POST! He is making opinions about me… without hearing what I have to say.

hempyninja309 said:

ass burger with cheese.

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Hempy saying this he could be saying a few things:
“I just don’t care and want to put this up here.”
“I care, but don’t want to admit I care for whatever reason, and will put this up here but not admit to the first option”
“I agree with what canna sylvan is saying”
“I agree with what canna sylvan is saying about Sustain being a retard”
“I disagree with what sustain is saying, but for my own reasons, I support you”
“Another option because I cant prove what you’re thinking.”
Now… here is where personal experience comes in… doing this… being hated… and figuring out how people think. What question is it… that you need to ask yourself… that will answer your questions? And the question for this particular instance… is what do you think Canna Sylva would say is the reason? If I never asked this question… what does he think in his head most likely? That the information he is getting here is accurate… because he wants to hear that. But really… it could be any number of reasons what the reason behind it was. And EVEN if he told us, he could be lying.

Autistic Austin said:

So very funny.

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Even if he hates Austin, he still probably thinks that Austin has the same opinions as him…. BUT HE DOESN’T HES A FUCKING TROLL! Or he does agree… but he is a troll, we will never know because we cant see into his mind. But I can tell you he agreed with me on my post, and agreed here and they have completely different thoughts, though he may not be understanding where this post is coming from… because its meant for me to NOT understand (but not really, its just by the time I post this, you guys will already believe that I don’t understand what is being said here because I haven’t responded because I was doing a method of telling people that I developed that might not even work, I’ve just realized that if I tell all this information first… people don’t believe me, and think that I all this is an elaborate excuse to not admitting that I am wrong…. Which again… if that was true…. My thought process is correct, based off simple logic that I am telling myself my own theory, and cant get it… because I cant accept it completely because subconsciously I didn’t accept it. But that is because I KNOW I’m not telling a lie. I am THINKING this. So therefore… its true. Understand? If I could prove to you… that I believe it…. I could prove it was true. And I do believe it. So I know for sure its true. Understand?


You guys give it a try with the rest of this conversation. Find faults in it, and use perspective to come up with research, and logic to make fact out of that research. If you can’t make fact, learn more before you create an opinion, and if you cant create an opinion, and you cant make logic… then your opinion doesn’t matter. You can make opinion and logic out of all of these…. And what they are thinking on the inside… and decide what to think afterwards.

roseypeach said:

sounds like my son. He just turned 22 and still (secretly) likes anime and I have threatened him with pepto for the mouth diarrhea more than a zillion times in his life LOL

thanks for clearing this up for me. I've read a lot about Aspergers and I was sure he exhibited the signs.

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Canna Sylvan said:

If several times a week you say, "What attitude, why do you keep asking that?" I don't have an attitude. You're the one who attacked me. Calm down, already.

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silasraven said:

dude the shit don't exist, its a fake disease created by people who dont want to go out and have friends. or people who are social. its something they came up with to get more money for giving people something new to have.........hey does your pits sweat when its hot, does it stink.... well then you may have swamp ass, swamp ass is a disease that is characterized by the sweating and smelling of your pits and or ass. if you or someone you know is experiencing swamp ass seek a psychiatrist for our new pill.

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Canna Sylvan said:

Silas, you realy need to shut up if you don't understand. Does your own voice in your head always feel louder than a rock concert? Flouresent lights and the wheel chair loading lift beep make you so dizzy you fall dowm? Will you read up on blu-ray player forums about other source direct players which are a minimum of $400 for at least 2 hours a day after already buying a source direct player. Normal touch feels fine but a feathery touch is like fire. You constantly feel a tingly sensation. People's faces look so different because they can move you get distracted and can't tell a smart ass smile, so you think they like you. Then they say, fuck off. Why? People who are strangers give you funny looks, you ask if they need something, you are treated like you don't exist. Someone would fake all that?

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Canna Sylvan said:

If, "you like anime." If, "people telling you to shut up is a daily occurance and at times you even tell yourself to shut up." We can all voice our opinion on the DSM and tell it to fuck off! We are way different as Aspies than we are the same as classical autism or an NT. But pretty much all Aspies are more similar to any NT.

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And just because you’ve never heard of anyone doing this… DOES NOT mean it’s the wrong way of doing things. Think about if my way of doing things is wrong. Try it. And see if it doesn’t come up with an answer for everything in the entire world. The answer that you don’t know is sometimes better to say you don’t know… then you do. Because if you look at your opinions… about a heated argument you get… youll find that using THIS method… you cant find answers to your “facts” in other peoples thoughts. You can only find them in yours, or who you got yours from before. That’s what makes a fact a fact. Its not actually a fact. Its an opinion. And guess what? You think it’s a fact. And that’s why we argue. Because your perception is fucked, OR a bunch of other options… IF YOU READ MY GIANT POST EXPLAINING IT. Its fucking complicated, I know you disagree right now, but theres so much more in my giant post, and if you read everything it says… and comprehend everything OR ASK ME WHAT I MEAN and have me reword it for you so you understand, instead of DISAGREEING with my opinions before looking at things from my perspective like I do for everyone else. Which is why I talk in confusing riddles that don’t make sense unless you read everything.

YOU ARE REFUSING TO ACCEPT THAT MY THOUGHT IS RIGHT, just because you don’t like HOW I’m wording it. I’ve proved that if I word it differently… word it by purposely trying to not make you guys leave and think im crazy EXCEPT at the beginning, just so youyou guys talk and say stuff and listen….







And then you might think its just about the forum and that’s how people are on the forum… but that’s not true people are like there in the real world too! And you are too! You just don’t realize it until some fucking crazy bastard tells you in this insane detail to the point that you no longer want to listen to what I say… unless you do … then you do other things. But the point is my opinion influences that, and you have to realize that… otherwise it is a paradox… and that’s why I’m confused about it.

BUT ITS NOT A PARADOX I JUST CANT PROVE TO YOU YOU’RE WRONG!

If you STILL think that I am just being arrogant for saying what I just said… then you aren’t listening to me…

Because you not agreeing… would agree that my thoughts are changing my mind based off my opinions. See how I’m using fact by NOT USING PERSPECTIVE in my diagnosis of the equation THEN finding what I believe based off that?

And again I wrote this at 7:01 AM, before any responses other than this were put in.

You sure you just smoking weed, bro?

Here we go again.

direwolf71 said:

Here we go again.

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Did I miss something while gone?

this dude is tripping balls.
im glad they didnt have any interwebs back when i was fucking my brains up.

Go to the psychiatrist. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.00.

ilikecheetoes said:

this dude is tripping balls.
im glad they didnt have any interwebs back when i was fucking my brains up.

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You do not know how many times I have dropped to my knees and thanked god I grew up in a time my reindeer games could not be collected in perpetuity.

uh just to let you know you can only edit your own posts for 72 hours after 72 hours your posts of And this is the last post reserved for more information.

will be like that forever

After analysing your posts as Sustain, I have strong suspicions this is your work Finshaggy.

inside my brain in the back of my mind sits an elderly man and a young boy this is who resides in my brain. At my present moment I am niether but I have been both. Hot fire passions consume my loins with a fever until release sometimes self induced. The smell of oregeno, basil and mint permeate my porch while a cool breeze blows a girls skirt that saunters up the hill. I am I.

I am reserving this space for a future comment.

This spot here, this spot right here, is reserved for another thought that I may have sometime in the future.

And in conclusion, I will be reserving this here comment for future thoughts about this subject. Thanks for listening. (in the future)

Man I'm still lost from the original post. .???????

beuffer420 said:

Man I'm still lost from the original post. .???????

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Yeah that was your mistake. Stay far away from walls of text on the 'net, even mine.
All you have to do is look at our own C++++ to see what can come of reading that shit. You start coding and then it's all over for you.

It looks as though you've gotten lost in your thoughts, which at times can be a good thing but trying to develop your psyche by means of another persons perspective is fraught with danger. I can see the reason/s why you ask such questions, seeking validation from others is a very human characteristic.

Cannabis and other drugs such as L.S.D, have the capacity to enlighten or open the mind to different perspectives {especially to one's inner voice} and some of the questions which come from that introspection become less lucid when one tries to verbalize or write them down.

Your "need" to have these and other questions answered are not new to us who partake, we have in time as I'm sure you...yourself will, come to the realization that the mind is a wonderfully exotic organ with a myriad of complexities in which certain drugs allow us to "perceive" the many possibilities in which life offers.

And a good thesaurus helps