What am I thinking? What should I do?

If your message at it's core isn't Love, I don't care to hear it. When you figure out what it is that you want to say you may be amazed at how simply it can be put if it is the right message. Subterfuge usually leads to an end that goes past the goal of the manipulations intention.

Actions go further than words, maybe you should actualize your message to show by example. There's not many things anyone could say that would make me alter my course of life at the moment. I have it pretty good compared to most, even if I'm not surrounded by the "finer things" in life.

kinetic said:

If your message at it's core isn't Love, I don't care to hear it. When you figure out what it is that you want to say you may be amazed at how simply it can be put if it is the right message. Subterfuge usually leads to an end that goes past the goal of the manipulations intention.

Actions go further than words, maybe you should actualize your message to show by example. There's not many things anyone could say that would make me alter my course of life at the moment. I have it pretty good compared to most, even if I'm not surrounded by the "finer things" in life.

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I suppose you could call it love? I believe in the peace love ideology... but I don't like the typical people who are involved in such subjects... and it makes people on the outside only see those people... and then they dont listen to your thoughts or my thoughts based off their incorrectly assumed thoughts.

kinetic said:

If your message at it's core isn't Love, I don't care to hear it. When you figure out what it is that you want to say you may be amazed at how simply it can be put if it is the right message. Subterfuge usually leads to an end that goes past the goal of the manipulations intention.

Actions go further than words, maybe you should actualize your message to show by example. There's not many things anyone could say that would make me alter my course of life at the moment. I have it pretty good compared to most, even if I'm not surrounded by the "finer things" in life.

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I always say it the simple things in life and I have come to realize that. Dually noted on the not many things people could say that would make me alter my course. My coarse was set by my experiences not by people's opinions of what they feel or are trying to say.

Sustain said:

I suppose you could call it love? I believe in the peace love ideology... but I don't like the typical people who are involved in such subjects... and it makes people on the outside only see those people... and then they dont listen to your thoughts or my thoughts based off their incorrectly assumed thoughts.

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You don't like people who are involved with love?
Is this the aspergers thread? am I posting in the wrong place?

Which they call opinions.


And if you tell ANYONE this... they are likely to respond with "nuh uh, you cant prove that because you cant prove whats in my head." but thats not even the point, the point is people DO do it and its slowing us down.

Perhaps the only people responding to this are people already on my side... or so far not on my side... they wont change. Or on my side but dont agree with EVERYthing. And you believing me or not has nothing to do with my 100 percent accuracy about things I dont even understand completely.

I think it's the I don't know what I mean thread but I want all of you to tell me what my thoughts mean

kinetic said:

You don't like people who are involved with love?
Is this the aspergers thread? am I posting in the wrong place?

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I dont like what you think of when you think of the word hippie.

Or... what people seem to think when they think of the word hippie.

Sustain said:

And you believing me or not has nothing to do with my 100 percent accuracy about things I dont even understand completely.

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...I could only agree 10% more

beuffer420 said:

I think it's the I don't know what I mean thread but I want all of you to tell me what my thoughts mean

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It is... but I feel so passionate about what I believe... I do all of these crazy things... and I see my thoughts being played out in front of me... and I try so hard to take my perspective out, and it always tells me that theres something people arent saying... that would make them LESS able to argue any point.


I just cant be wrong.... it just seems so logical... it seems SO right. So tell me if I'm right... and tell me why I'm wrong...


but NO ONE can understand my bullshit and its the stupid paradox that makes me REMAIN stupid sounding.

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I agree! I see that. I see that I have led YOU SPECIFICALLY you into the wrong thought process. But thats becuase I told you something... that is part of a bigger picture... that I dont fully comprehend. And if you read my entire post... and you take notes... and you think hard... and you TRY to understand whatever the hell it is I'm saying...

SOMEONE will help me know what I'm thinking about... so I can word it differently... so I can spread my message.

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Then it is my opinion that the baton of duty returns to your hand in this relay. If you cannot formulate and communicate your point(s) clearly and concisely, you cannot say to anyone that he or she is reading you wrong. Job Zero is to know what you are saying. Job One is to say it using language that engages the other. Deciding how you want us to respond is entirely subordinate to Jobs Zero and One, and might not even be Job Two. My opinion, and a rule by which I have lived. cn

When I say nothing... and I just think.... about what that person is actually thinking... and I watch them perform all of these actions... and say all of these things... and when I dont speak... they prove me right.

But when I speak... they say I'm wrong over and over and over.


And I KNOW that sounds crazy... but its more than just what you see! It has to be

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I dont like what you think of when you think of the word hippie.

Or... what people seem to think when they think of the word hippie.

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You can't know what I think of the word hippie until I tell you what I think of the word hippie. The first thought I have is of my brown hat that says Hippie Thug in old english text. Now you know the first thought I have when I hear hippie, now you can have an opinion on what I think of when I think of the word hippie.

I'm not talking about hippie love. I'm talking about Love. I feel bad because I'm starting to think you don't have the concept of what real love is. Which I will bring back to learning how to meditate, how to have empathy. I think you may have an problem with empathy though.

cannabineer said:

Then it is my opinion that the baton of duty returns to your hand in this relay. If you cannot formulate and communicate your point(s) clearly and concisely, you cannot say to anyone that he or she is reading you wrong. Job Zero is to know what you are saying. Job One is to say it using language that engages the other. Deciding how you want us to respond is entirely subordinate to Jobs Zero and One, and might not even be Job Two. My opinion, and a rule by which I have lived. cn

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So I can't ask this forum for advice on what my thoughts means... or anyone, I have to figure it out myself... and THAT is your proof that I'm wrong?

Also you need to let go of your ego and try and strip away the need and thinking that you are right all the time. How the hell are you going to grow as a person if you are unwilling to really listen and learn. You're making judgements without digestion.

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So I can't ask this forum for advice on what my thoughts means... and THAT is your proof that I'm wrong?

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On the first, Yes.

On the second, Not Relevant. That is an unwarranted overlay, an invalid attempt to shift my thoughts into your agenda. I have no proof or even strong opinion on whether you're right or wrong until you become clear enough to aspire to andor qualify for either. cn

kinetic said:

You can't know what I think of the word hippie until I tell you what I think of the word hippie. The first thought I have is of my brown hat that says Hippie Thug in old english text. Now you know the first thought I have when I hear hippie, now you can have an opinion on what I think of when I think of the word hippie.

I'm not talking about hippie love. I'm talking about Love. I feel bad because I'm starting to think you don't have the concept of what real love is. Which I will bring back to learning how to meditate, how to have empathy. I think you may have an problem with empathy though.

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This is what I'm telling you in my extremely long uncomprehendable bit of text.... and it makes perfect sense doesnt it?

We are forming opinions... based off what we think others are thinking... but we dont know that the first thought you have.... when Hippie is brought up... is your brown hat that say sHippie Thug because I could never know that... and you would never say that... so now our conversation is different.... if we have this conversation:

"I am against what people think about hippies."

you respond "Whats wrong with hippies?"



Your want to prove that you care about hippies.... makes you not see my perspective....

Which is not that I hate hippies... its that I hate what some people think about hippies and that changes the thoughts of everyone including you. You KNOW people think of hippie and think druggie, doesnt shave, smells bad. You know that. But you wont admit that knowledge if it is against your opinions?

Or something else....


But I'm not saying YOU SPECIFICALLY I'm saying PEOPLE DO IT and it HAS TO STOP.

You are proving it to me... by focusing on non-sense even one time. Its proof that you error what you see based off not seeing perspective. Even if you do it once... it happens.

And I'm not saying im smart for knowing that... I'm saying its LOGICAL and it HAS TO BE RIGHT so you HAVE TO BE WRONG.

And even if you DONT do it... I'm not arguing whether or not YOU do it... I'm saying PEOPLE do it.. and I can never prove WHO does it... which is giving us FALSE opinions about everything.

cannabineer said:

On the first, Yes.

On the second, Not Relevant. That is an unwarranted overlay, an invalid attempt to shift my thoughts into your agenda. I have no proof or even strong opinion on whether you're right or wrong until you become clear enough to aspire to andor qualify for either. cn

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I agree, you saw what I did, and now you're choosing your responses based off my manipulation. You're doing it back to me without realizing, you think you're just outsmarting me but thats not the argument and thats not what we're talking about. EVEN if thats not what you're saying... ITS NOT WHAT WE'RE talking about... and has NOTHING TO DO with my questions or what I'm even saying.

I'm saying I posted this to ask questions.

you're saying how dare you ask these questions. And that you think im wrong.

But Im saying I am just asking questions... I want answers... thats it

Sustain, you didn't get much out of school did you? Like, how to formulate opinions and then express those opinions in a manner that engages the listener(s)?

I think you are falling short on both aforementioned parts.

I'm not saying I'm RIGHT 100 percent of the time when I guess what you're thinking. I could never prove if I was... and I imagine I would be wrong a lot. But just because YOU arent what I'm saying... doesnt mean that most of the people aren't too... I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about it all, and you keep saying to me over and over "Nuh uh, thats not what I'm thinking so you're wrong."

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Sustain, you didn't get much out of school did you? Like, how to formulate opinions and then express those opinions in a manner that engages the listener(s)?

I think you are falling short on both aforementioned parts.

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You're right, I am failing at engaging all of you right now... but I am trying... I am literally trying to engage all of your minds.... and I don't know how.

SO HOW DO I DO IT?

And what is my thought?

Is it correct?