WHAT ARE THIS LEAF SPOTS??? MOSAIC VIRUS!?

Shit take it out of the blurple man! Use the camera flash instead.
When i zoom in, i see some type of mite infested leaves (last pic), very hard to see clearly. that purple light is fucking with me and it will not show the color white properly

I've been running into some serious troubles over the past year, and it seems to be only getting worse...

In my quest to solve this problem I've done pretty much everything imaginable, from acquiring a R.O machine to changing growing medium etc. Nothing has helped. Theyll do okay for a week or so then get stunned again.


Funny enough my moms seem to have stabalized. It's their offspring that seems to be doing badly.


The most depressing part is that my yields have declined by nearly 50%.

-The buds seem airy.

-The stems are weak

-Pitiols/leaf viens are either reddish purple or yellow (depending on strain),

-leaves are smaller then usual.

Some genetics are harder hit then others.

After trying/replacing everything imaginable I'v came to the conclusion that I have some sort of Hemp virus. Possibly TMV.

I've atrached a few photos.

p.s. I am a tobacco smoker.
Ph/ EC & temps are correct.
Could not find broadmites- spent hours
with the 100x magnification scope- only
what I first thought were eggs but it's
most probably undeveloped cannabanoid glands (round, milky in colour)


Your help would be greatly appreciated!

^ This looks like to be root pathogen problem. Do they end up looking like this.

Spinosad your root zone and spray with it too

Follow up 2 weeks or so later with a fogger or a mild spray

then you will probably want to spinosad again 1 to 4 months later

you`ve got some kind`a bug in your soil and plants, probably Gnats or thrips or something

if you think root rot is an issue use Trichoderma or Guard and maybe mycorr when transplanting

boilingoil said:

^ This looks like to be root pathogen problem. Do they end up looking like this.View attachment 3628250

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You could be right, my previous batch that flowered didn't look nearly as bad, however I did get some droopy bottom leaves that where turning yellow. The run off EC was extremely high.

Was growing in CocoPeat feeding (EC) 1.0 run off was 2.5. It's like they were not taking in the nutrients. Initially I thought it's due to me letting the coco dry out too much, but then again I was doing that because the roots started turning brown and I thought I was over watering.


This batch also had brown thin roots (didn't smell or fall apart like in hydroponics- just look lifeless with no root hairs). So when transplanting I removed as much coco as possible and added hydrogen peroxide to to water. Withing a couple of weeks I could see white roots so I stopped adding H2O2.

I did battle with Thrips and Fungus Gnats a several months ago - but they are gone now.

Thanks for the help!

Greetings from South Africa!

I Hope it's not because you'll probable lose that strain. But it's in the same frame as my problems occurred. In coir, started right after a fungus gnat out break . Plants in veg really don't show symptoms beside slow growth but 2 -4 weeks into flowering they would digress. Not a happy feeling when you lose one of you're best girls.

boilingoil said:

I Hope it's not because you'll probable lose that strain. But it's in the same frame as my problems occurred. In coir, started right after a fungus gnat out break . Plants in veg really don't show symptoms beside slow growth but 2 -4 weeks into flowering they would digress. Not a happy feeling when you lose one of you're best girls.View attachment 3628383

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Did you try battling it?
What did your root system look like?

My leaves don't look fried through, the bottom ones droop badly turning yellow or burned from the sides.
The bud are soft/airy with hardly any weight to them. Trichome formation is poor and they don't smell dank.
Some strains (mainly the sativa dominant) are worse effected.

Shot for your input! I started suspecting TMV because I was running out of possibilities. Although from what I've researched it's like the Loch Ness Monster - a lot of people claim to have it but all test come back negative.

Thanks for your input,

The thing is I've no idea what root rot looks like in coco, I've had root rot problems using hydroponics- they turned slimy and smelly. Here they are thin brown, almost look burned with no smell to them.

Treated with hydrogen peroxide several weeks ago and transplanted, got new root growth looking white and healthy, but the break up very easily. Also once I stopped using H2O2 I started getting brown runoff again...

THE KONASSURE said:

Spinosad your root zone and spray with it too

Follow up 2 weeks or so later with a fogger or a mild spray

then you will probably want to spinosad again 1 to 4 months later

you`ve got some kind`a bug in your soil and plants, probably Gnats or thrips or something

if you think root rot is an issue use Trichoderma or Guard and maybe mycorr when transplanting

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boilingoil said:

I Hope it's not because you'll probable lose that strain. But it's in the same frame as my problems occurred. In coir, started right after a fungus gnat out break . Plants in veg really don't show symptoms beside slow growth but 2 -4 weeks into flowering they would digress. Not a happy feeling when you lose one of you're best girls.View attachment 3628383

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Something I forgot to mention, the leaves (especially the bottom ones) feel "papery" as if there's no moisture in them.

Cape of Good Dope said:

Thanks for your input,

The thing is I've no idea what root rot looks like in coco, I've had root rot problems using hydroponics- they turned slimy and smelly. Here they are thin brown, almost look burned with no smell to them.

Treated with hydrogen peroxide several weeks ago and transplanted, got new root growth looking white and healthy, but the break up very easily. Also once I stopped using H2O2 I started getting brown runoff again...

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Root rot in coco is pretty rare and using Trichoderma and mycorr in your coco mix or watering every 20 to 60 days normally stops it

the roots will smell bad if you have rot

Sounds like you have some sap suckers mate, lower leaves white and paper like ?

That`s like what thrips do

Thrips in the root zone or on the plant is bad news

No matter how many times you nuke them or what you nuke them with once you have thrips you should treat for them once every month to 6 months depending on how bad it gets

there so tiny and so hard to kill, I bet if you find damp coco that stays damp for more than a few days you`ll find tiny thrips there

I dig in the coco and look at the rootball after harvest

We got 100% fucked one time after that we saw them in the rootballs

after that we look everytime

we got the numbers down a fuck load, but its a battle and if you don`t keep killing them they build up

every plant gets sprayed and root zone treated atleast once

Normally when it go`s from seeding to veg area

but we normally like to treat them again between potting up for veg and going into flower

So 1 to 4 treatments in the plants life for thrips is what I do if a grow has had a thrips problem in the last 6 months to 2 years

if you don`t get any white paper leaf for 6 months to a year then I`d risk not treating only if I have started from seed or a clone from a seed I`d started

Still would probably spray with something mild and or bug bomb every 1 to 6 months just to make sure

like this

And that's the strange part even though my mother was infected none of my other strains where or they have some built in immunity.

Cape of Good Dope said:

I've been running into some serious troubles over the past year, and it seems to be only getting worse...

In my quest to solve this problem I've done pretty much everything imaginable, from acquiring a R.O machine to changing growing medium etc. Nothing has helped. Theyll do okay for a week or so then get stunned again.


Funny enough my moms seem to have stabalized. It's their offspring that seems to be doing badly.


The most depressing part is that my yields have declined by nearly 50%.

-The buds seem airy.

-The stems are weak

-Pitiols/leaf viens are either reddish purple or yellow (depending on strain),

-leaves are smaller then usual.

Some genetics are harder hit then others.

After trying/replacing everything imaginable I'v came to the conclusion that I have some sort of Hemp virus. Possibly TMV.

I've atrached a few photos.

p.s. I am a tobacco smoker.
Ph/ EC & temps are correct.
Could not find broadmites- spent hours
with the 100x magnification scope- only
what I first thought were eggs but it's
most probably undeveloped cannabanoid glands (round, milky in colour)


Your help would be greatly appreciated!

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broad mites for sure. 100
Percent! Get nukem on the double!

Whodatt said:

broad mites for sure. 100
Percent! Get nukem on the double!

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Do they look anything like this?
Sorry about the photo quality - I don't have a usb scope.

I believe those are eggs. I had the exact same things, when I had them. Nuke em will bring your garden back.

Woolog said:

Surely a pro like yourself can help clear up all that misinformation.

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Who made you the forum guardian newbie?

boilingoil said:

I Hope it's not because you'll probable lose that strain. But it's in the same frame as my problems occurred. In coir, started right after a fungus gnat out break . Plants in veg really don't show symptoms beside slow growth but 2 -4 weeks into flowering they would digress. Not a happy feeling when you lose one of you're best girls.View attachment 3628383

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That plant is nitrogen deficient. That is not bug damage.

Alexander Supertramp said:

That plant is nitrogen deficient. That is not bug damage.

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Are you're talking about my pic or the OP.

Alexander Supertramp said:

That plant is nitrogen deficient. That is not bug damage.

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That is broad mite damage. I would bet your life on it.

I would look into a root problem either way, if it's pathogens or bugs. Best of luck.

spider mites, look under the leaves! get mantis botanicals from amazon or your shit will turn out like these