what are you running now ?

i dont like to touch plants in flower w/ the deadly pinchy pinch.

like "notsoesoteric" noted , and i agree , i've seen a super-crop in flower turn a nice nug maker into a golf ball chucker.

just as i've seen plants slow up , semi straighten , & fill in.

lately, im growing in a "leave them alone" style. let the plants show me what's what.
im not taking sour d, for example, & trying to grow a pole with 40 in a tray.
al b fukt as ive noted is wrong. his model is efficient only when you run one plant perfect for clone to flower. all the time.

still super-cropping & paying attention to my ceiling height is only smart.

floor to ceiling i got 5'10".

im thinking no super-crop unless i can veg them 7 to 10 days (ish) after a pinch.

just lowered the tables for drip & took back about 18".
fuck a traditional rez in my lab ... that concept got me growing clones like they're plants.

i hate to cut my nice tables down and make them for this singular "drip" purpose.
but this is about $ versus output (labor, time, energy, nutes, elec bill, etc).

i know im right on this.
and even if i prefer true hydro.
on 240+ gallons of nutes , hydro aint netting me what my new lab will.

Reckon I am a little strange or quirky in my growing, first run of a strain I won't do anything to the plant. I just like to see what it does alone, the clones off of them lmao yeap top and super crop. I usually stop super cropping about 10 days to flower just in case I mangle something and I want to ensure that everything is healed up nicely. My future runs of seeds from a strain I will treat as clones as far as topping and super cropping.
I just grow for myself and usually run around 4 in flower now since they have gotten stricter on plants down here, don't want that plane ticket out of country. Until this year kept around 20 in flower just as my breeding projects, alas breeding is harder now to get the results I want but still love tinkering with the plants once I know what strain will do.

and i do it for more yeild, figure with even canopy yeild will increase. and now that you guys got me questioning my methods i will have to do a side by side! next grow half my tent will be supercropped and other half prob lst or stakes... let me tell you whats better in a few monthslol at least for the strains used...

We does a combo method of pinching in veg and trellis netting for the stretch in flower to keep that even canopy. On heavy indica the trellis basically just holds back those big sun leaves people so mercilessly love to chop, we don't touch anything in flower. Learned the hard way on that many moons ago.

i have limited ceiling bout 5 ft, so i only do it when i have. i prefer to tie down personally but im getting lazy! lol

cash flow why you low? ...https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/dna-genetics-seeds-la-chocolat/prod_4018.html

GDP vs Cali connect tahoes just started soaking. It's cc Buddha Tahoe vs GDP og kush, both Tahoe x og crosses (og x og), I just want one good female and male from each breeder to cross back and make seeds. Btw the greenhouse chemdog is sucking big dicks right now, barely any taller than my Sincity lvbk both outdoors.

nice i was curious how gdp tahoe compares!

i was peeping hard that humbolt seed org. lemon thai kush.

sounds so classic dank ...& in regs too.

$100+ with ship wtf?

https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/humboldt-seed-organisation-lemon-thai-kush-regular/prod_4307.html

on all but the most trusted bean makers, im not sure i can justify spending $100 anymore.
i need to get some feedback on this company.

ive read the sour d #2 and the b. dream were average to good (+ / -) on posts w/o pics.

id love to get that true old school pineapple yum affie type dense tasty dank ass kush ...which i thought was a classic humbolt strain.

i know there's seeds of this ^ around.

needs me some cali friends.
damn left coasters with your hot chicks , killer custom cars , great surf , and mad strains.

out here , we got hot pretzels , city full of fat chicks , and my trusty copy of "swank" to hold me on the subway.

yea i read they were good (bd n sd) but i think those are growers that havent had the originals lol but im prob wrong lol you think pineapple express is fruity like you describe? i too love pineapple n citrus alike. was thinking C99 might do the trick and shits a fast sativa. oh yea anyone know if chocolope has c99 in it? my choco was so cantoloupe flavored shit was dank lanky sativa till flip, had no stretch! wish i never killed it off... been a year and people still ask for some cantaloupe! what is up with humbolt seed org, heard the emdog was a crippie cross with the odds like 10mil to one of getting a crippie pheno lol just seems like another shady as fuck company. they pop up with 12 strains for beautiful prices. hmmmm shit is snoop lyins seed co? lol

just realized they running a promo for free pineapple thai kush beans, buy whatever get some free from humbolt

gudkarma said:

i was peeping hard that humbolt seed org. lemon thai kush.

sounds so classic dank ...& in regs too.

$100+ with ship wtf?

https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/humboldt-seed-organisation-lemon-thai-kush-regular/prod_4307.html

on all but the most trusted bean makers, im not sure i can justify spending $100 anymore.
i need to get some feedback on this company.

ive read the sour d #2 and the b. dream were average to good (+ / -) on posts w/o pics.

id love to get that true old school pineapple yum affie type dense tasty dank ass kush ...which i thought was a classic humbolt strain.

i know there's seeds of this ^ around.

needs me some cali friends.
damn left coasters with your hot chicks , killer custom cars , great surf , and mad strains.

out here , we got hot pretzels , city full of fat chicks , and my trusty copy of "swank" to hold me on the subway.

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Their Lemon Thai Kush grows BIG, it's quite potent too, the one pheno my bud grew out tasted like Pina Colada with a shot of petrol, the other just straight-up pine which was not all that nice (I'm not a fan of pine in reefer personally so that's a taste thing from my side).
Personally I'd consider it an outdoor plant mate, but I know about a guy that's literally busy germing some for his indoor setup not sure if they've even popped the soil yet, as soon as he's got some pics to show I'll pass you the link so you can see how it rolls.

Gud, you know Breeder's Boutique have a 50 percent off sale at the mo?... That means you can get 4 packs of beans for 50 bucks. Their Psycho Killer and Engineer's Dream look insane by al the grows I've seen of it on RIU...

http://www.breedersboutique.co.uk/site/#

Wanna talk a good deal well there we go, I'd also be hard-pressed to fork out 100 USD for a pack with insane deals on insanely good dank going around...

Galvatron, your honest impression on the LVBK so far... How do you find the growth rate on your girls? They kickin along like you'd expect to? I feel like she's kicking my ass a little but the Tahoe right next to it is really powering along... Perhaps I am just really bad with the Indica I don't know.

My honest opinion is that they are extremely slow veggers. I don't know if it's my set up or not since I'm using leds indoors, and am used to growing under the sun but dam these plants are going so slow for me. I've grown some other bubba crosses that grow similar to these(bubba x afghan) and they need a few extra week's in veg. I even put one of the lvbk outdoors and left one inside and the difference is not much at all between them.

Galvatron said:

My honest opinion is that they are extremely slow veggers. I don't know if it's my set up or not since I'm using leds indoors, and am used to growing under the sun but dam these plants are going so slow for me. I've grown some other bubba crosses that grow similar to these(bubba x afghan) and they need a few extra week's in veg. I even put one of the lvbk outdoors and left one inside and the difference is not much at all between them.

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I'm feeling the same... I have a one-week old Tahoe clone that's got bigger leaves than 8-week-old LVBK mums. I have them vegging under 400w MH in my smallest tent so it's Photon City in there I kid you not... I've had 'em in coco, clones in ebb n flow, and even put one in the DWC system to see what it likes most... Stays slow all round.

You know what pissed me off bigtime? Did you see the new promo pic for it? It's like they finally admitted that no, you won't get that amount of frost, definitely not a 'white' strain. I kinda wanted a super-indica for my wife, she NEEDS a good couch-lock to be able to relax at night, shame poor girl's arthritis is becoming very uncomfortable so I wanted a big pile of STRONG medicine for her. She can toke up to 2 ounces a week. Slow vegging girls of average Kush quality are not going to cut it around these parts.

Shame on you, SinCity, you got MH to fall for clever marketing. But I shall reserve final judgement for the finished bud. I am probably the world's most brutal reviewer so yeah that bud better ROCK LOL...

Running the Bodhi gear as soon as it gets here.

love that breeder boutque sale !

nice. way.
gud looking out.

up from the lab , all set to go.
drip kit here. plants nearly ready.
tables all low. waste bins positioned.

...ideas all machinated.

my only issue.
fems is the only way in this set up.

anything turning male fucks up my numbers game.
id rather cull a shit fem or two than have 3 or 4 males.

so we gonna limit reg seeds runs to 5 (ish) beans every month.
10 to 15 fems every 3 to 4 weeks should get the job done.

my drip kit doesnt specify gph on the emitters but i'll assume 1 gph & .5 .

33 gal rez 250 gph pump w/ shut off valve to cut down flow and the reducers / regulators that come with the kit.
though i was thinking about a continuous (uncapped) end that goes back to the rez.

anybody?

since i dont use smart pots, was gonna start w/ feed my coco rockwool mix every 3 days for 5 (ish) minutes to start.

thoughts?

surely i'll be asking a few questions
the drip to waste section is tight here at RIU but i need specifics.

so now i have to change my crack plan.

sannie kolossus , dna holy grail kush , esko pink cheese , and emerald triangle bb headband gonna start the next sesh.

these tahoe og look like no shows.
& one bean is totally fucking empty.

holy sloppytitsfuck f2 , i think, a garden gnome stole the contents.

Man that blows Hamish. But I kind of had a feeling their original picture of LVBK was a rarity. Plus the bud in that picture was small leaving me to assume LVBK give small yields, but it might just be it grows so slow. Hopefully she swells during flower and is coated nicely.

I picked up that critical sensi star for a knock out indica high, my bedtime bud. The next generation grape god cut that is being replaced by the sensi star was a knock out indica as well, but I don't feel comfortable recommending next generations seeds. Even though I've gotten Grape god twice, once feminized and once regular and both were identical, but the company has many bad reports over the years.

Also running a freebie from WOS their mazar x white rhino and supposely this one is made for medical. Suppose to be really coated like a hash plant but we'll let you know about that here in a month.

What's your.mix? we're running 4" blocks on top of hugos with coco underneath in a eurogrower, goes 2-3 days between watering right now

perfect ^

botanicare coco with rockwool crutons. maybe 70 / 30 mix.

doing the math with the number of plants , all the same emitters , & the rez size ...about one hour of drip time every 3 days looks about right.

using 1 gph emitter.
for starters.

simple mix rez mix & handfeeding bloom boosters or liquid karma or whatever.

rez : cns17 bloom/grow 50/50 mix + cal mag + p. silicate + 1/2 strength enzyme, & a quick bennie tea i make over night.

every 3to4 weeks clearex flush. handfeed.

ph 6.0

ppm 800 to 1000

air stone.
cause im not a fan of circ pumps.

should be able to bust a fresh rez easy every week.
& im saving about +140 gallons of nutes every month !

total plants in flower at any time should be 24 to 25.
3 gal grow bags. with above rockwool ammended mix.

im vegging solid plants from seed & clone in one gal contains switching to 3gal 7 to 10 days before flower.

super-crop & transplant same day.

i use only BTI in the coco to with my fungi fucking gnats.

reuse all media possible for transplants.
since im taking advantage of enzymes.

Sounds like a nice setup man!