What causes a Maijuana Bud to grow?

HitTheBong816

Well-Known Member
If a marijuana plant would grow better without fan leaves. then the plant would not have the fan leaves after it was done with them right???
 

GoldenGanja13

Well-Known Member
Removing leaves slows chlorophyll production, stresses the plant, and stunts its growth. Stress is a growth inhibitor.
 

tusseltussel

Well-Known Member
This is the part of your quote which I didn't understand: "because its supplier sh!t the bed"

This sounded like you were talking shit about me but if you weren't, I'm sorry dude. I just don't know what that statement meant and if it wasn't derogatory, then I'm sorry.

As you could see after your post, Bluemax was surely talking shit which I find on these boards happens alot. This kind of attitude sucks since people are coming here to learn and share knowledge.

And btw, I don't cut off all my leaves. Nowhere do I condone cutting off all the leaves. I was just proposing a question as to trimming leaves when appropriate. Most people on here are adamant about NOT touching the fan leaves at all but as I delve into the forums some more, I find open minded posters who actually experiment with trimming leaves when appropriate and these people seem to get good results.

Take maxwelljr for instance. It seems to me that he trims the lower leaves off of his plants and it seems to work for him because he's telling us his opinion.

I was researching on how to produce bigger buds. I decided to check out how tomatoes are grown and one thing I found out is that as the tomato is growing, you should remove the green leaves around the stem since these are known as "suckers" and they steal nutrients from the tomato. Since marijuana is similar to tomatoes, I might have thought the same might apply to weed to which I still haven't found a definitive answer.

I'm planning to experiment myself and when I find out, I'll share the info with you all.

Anyways, tusseltussel once again I'm sorry for going off on ya, I just didn't know where you were coming from.
what i ment was the fan leaf(supplier)fell off(shit the bed) so that node had to supply itself now therfore it streatched toward the light which made it look as if it was growing faster which it was in a way but most ive seen its really just growing stem more than top but like you said it is a good idea to clean up the bottom third of the plant just do it before switching to 12\12 and for the record i don't sucker my maters it takes a lil longer to grow em thats all and they put on a bigger harvest.....fyi i run a 23 acre organic farm, not gonna sucker 1000 plants;-)
 

petrol420

Member
If a marijuana plant would grow better without fan leaves. then the plant would not have the fan leaves after it was done with them right???
Or, what if marijuana was still growing wildly all over the world and in the same places where marijuana is are animals that eat leaves. I'm pretty sure the marijuana plant would grow out some more leaves.

It seems to me that God made all plants adaptable to their environments and I think marijuana is the same way.

Whenever I start cutting up a mother plant to make clones and a few days passes by, the mother plant responds really well from getting cut up by growing more leaves and nodes quickly. The last mother plant I grew took about a month to grow some adequate size nodes to cut. After I cut them off, I let the mother plant grow for about 2 more weeks and I was able to get about 8 HUGE healthy looking clones off of a chopped up mother.

Anyways, I knew what I was getting into when I decided to chime in. There are some people who don't touch the fan leaves and there are some who'll do a fan leaf trim. The only way to find out is just experiment myself. This might take a whole year though.

And one more thing, sorry bricktown73, I didn't mean to hijack your thread.
 
I too have been wondering about this. My friend insists that I should get rid of them. I feel I probably should leave them on there.
I think the best advice is to gently pull the leaf and if it comes off easily, the plant is done with it.

However, I should point out that in doing some experimentation that I decided to trim back the small leaves around one of the top 4 colas I have on a heavily sativa strain. I have 3 bagseed in flowering, and all 3 are responding very differently to the same environment, lighting, and feeding schedule. The heavy sativa had large fan leaves that were drying up and dying, unlike the other 2 plants...one of which was starting to have yellowing leaves, and the other is perfectly healthy and green 7 weeks in to flowering.
So I decided to trim back the dead parts of the leaves, not taking the entire leaf off, but just the dead parts. While doing this I decided to trim back the mostly green leaves up near one of the top colas to see if I could see any differences.
Almost a week later now, and that cola has about twice the budsize as the other 3 colas which I didn't touch the upper leaves on.

When cloning you trim back the leaves to prevent the plant from putting any more energy in to growing those leaves, which in turn tells it to focus it's energy more on other growth (buds at this stage).
So there is still leaf there, and it is still providing photosynthesis and helping with bud production, but the plant won't try and keep growing them in to larger leaves.
 

Bluemax

Active Member
my roadunner auto is now eating all of its main leaves,all of them,and i would have been a fool to cut any of them off,as its now fattening up madly,busting of flowers all over the place

and to answer the thread questions,i feel i have neglected,its a critical build up of a certain/mix of certain hormones that initiate the flowering process,from there on out its pretty straight forward growth
 

petrol420

Member
I too have been wondering about this. My friend insists that I should get rid of them. I feel I probably should leave them on there.
I think the best advice is to gently pull the leaf and if it comes off easily, the plant is done with it.

However, I should point out that in doing some experimentation that I decided to trim back the small leaves around one of the top 4 colas I have on a heavily sativa strain. I have 3 bagseed in flowering, and all 3 are responding very differently to the same environment, lighting, and feeding schedule. The heavy sativa had large fan leaves that were drying up and dying, unlike the other 2 plants...one of which was starting to have yellowing leaves, and the other is perfectly healthy and green 7 weeks in to flowering.
So I decided to trim back the dead parts of the leaves, not taking the entire leaf off, but just the dead parts. While doing this I decided to trim back the mostly green leaves up near one of the top colas to see if I could see any differences.
Almost a week later now, and that cola has about twice the budsize as the other 3 colas which I didn't touch the upper leaves on.

When cloning you trim back the leaves to prevent the plant from putting any more energy in to growing those leaves, which in turn tells it to focus it's energy more on other growth (buds at this stage).
So there is still leaf there, and it is still providing photosynthesis and helping with bud production, but the plant won't try and keep growing them in to larger leaves.

I remember some guy on here that said that one of his colas was touching his light during flowering and it was badly damaged but he said after a few weeks, the plant's bud grew significantly bigger than the other colas that weren't damaged.

food for thought, you know.
 

manlookingj

Active Member
So there is an actual cause an effect in over production of the node when the fan leaf is removed. Is this not a beneficial reaction, and I wonder if the same equivalent happens when there's a bud instead of a node, maybe there is something to it.

the node that was growing faster was streatching to get more light because its supplier sh!t the bed
 
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