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curious2garden

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I'll go for a triple post. I've been researching e-bikes all week, and decided to build one. I am ordering a 1500 watt rear hub motor today for a donor 26" WalMart aluminum mountain bike I am making into a cruiser. Front suspension only. It'll be for paved trails, or maybe a gravel road. Still deciding on a battery....So many battery choices, from $100 direct from China to $500 for a name brand, buy here battery. I'll probably go middle of the road...Chinese with a warranty bought here in the states, for around $200. Should be able to build it for around $500 with the free donor bike. From everything I have read they are scary fast, over 30 mph. My stimulus money fun project!
Sounds like fun, I'm looking forward to seeing it. My little ebike in the garage isn't seeing much use right now.
 

Chunky Stool

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Chunky try Harbor Freight. Last time I was there they still had them in stock and lots of them. for under 10/box depending on thicknes.
Thanks for the tip!
No luck at Harbor Freight in my area. They had signs up saying prices had gone up because of high demand -- and the shelves were completely empty.

On the bright side, rubbing alcohol is showing up in stores again...
 

Singlemalt

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Thanks for the tip!
No luck at Harbor Freight in my area. They had signs up saying prices had gone up because of high demand -- and the shelves were completely empty.

On the bright side, rubbing alcohol is showing up in stores again...
Check Walmart and auto part stores. I got a box of 50 at Walmart 2 weeks ago, $12 I believe. Higher price than before but.....
 

DCcan

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I do some work at a shoe design center, those shoe designers have a grueling job.
They have to make the shoes themselves, try them out in the jungle gym and climbing walls installed in the workspace inside, then create a production cost sheets, all the marketing materials and ad campaign costs...them bring it to a management team to bounce it upstairs to executives.
I actually saw these Vans units still in design, and yet here they are in production. I thought it was for a crash test dummy actually
 
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curious2garden

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I do some work at a shoe design center, those shoe designers have a grueling job.
They have to make the shoes themselves, try them out in the jungle gym and climbing walls installed in the workspace inside, then create a production cost sheets, all the marketing materials and ad campaign costs...them bring it to a management team to bounce it upstairs to executives.
I actually saw these Vans units still in design, and yet here they are in production. I thought it was for a crash test dummy actually
I grew up in Keds then Vans. I tried some Vans on the other day and they were nothing like I remembered them LOL
 

DCcan

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I grew up in Keds then Vans. I tried some Vans on the other day and they were nothing like I remembered them LOL
These outdoor apparel companies , like VF which owns Vans, North Face, etc will bring a designer from tents over to shoes, or move them to cookware if what they make sells. They will put a marketing kid in the team, make him sew, glue soles, and shoot hoops then work on the marketing angle as his part of a project.
 

Chunky Stool

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These outdoor apparel companies , like VF which owns Vans, North Face, etc will bring a designer from tents over to shoes, or move them to cookware if what they make sells. They will put a marketing kid in the team, make him sew, glue soles, and shoot hoops then work on the marketing angle as his part of a project.
Funny you should mention North Face.
I got a pair of gor-tex hiking shoes at an REI 'garage sale' for $45 and was thrilled!

They looked tough but weren't.
First thing to go was the fancy shoe string loops. Broke 4 off and had to melt holes for the laces.
Then the stitching started to fail and the right shoe was no longer waterproof. (not sure why)

Got the feeling it was a V1 product that needed a lot of "tuning"...

<poop emogi> :wink:
 
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curious2garden

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Ya airwalks and vans for me, production value has really gone down hill. I just wear boots or dad style New balance now..I'm getting old
My hub LOVES New Balance I exclusively wear Asics Gel Kayanos. I just got this year's pair, a jaunty black with hot pink. It seems like each year I get fewer miles out of my Kayano's than the year before. It seems like you find something good and they slowly degrade it while not lowering the price.
 

DarkWeb

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Funny you should mention North Face.
I got a pair of gor-tex hiking shoes at an REI 'garage sale' for $45 and was thrilled!

They looked tough but weren't.
First thing to go was the fancy shoe string loops. Broke 4 off and had to melt holes for the laces.
Then the stitching started to fail and the right shoe was no longer waterproof. (not sure why)

Got the feeling that it was a V1 product that needed a lot of "tuning"...

<poop emogi> :wink:
North face is not what it used to be. The same can be said about most of those big names.

You want good hiking shoes? Try some Asolo's. I know they are not inexpensive but the last pair I had for 6 years and I am not easy on gear.

https://www.backcountry.com

Gore tex is a coating on the inside of the fabric. There are different levels of waterproofing and it does fail. Improper washing and care it can fail much quicker.

Edit: sorry about that crazy long link
 
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DCcan

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Funny you should mention North Face.
I got a pair of gor-tex hiking shoes at an REI 'garage sale' for $45 and was thrilled!

They looked tough but weren't.
First thing to go was the fancy shoe string loops. Broke 4 off and had to melt holes for the laces.
Then the stitching started to fail and the right shoe was no longer waterproof. (not sure why)

Got the feeling it was a V1 product that needed a lot of "tuning"...

<poop emogi> :wink:
Yea, that's what happens when design is based on quarterly marketing projections over durability and future sales.
Looking at the "Story Boards" that each design team had to produce with the shoe, you could see it was about producing a package, rather than designing a shoe.
 
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