What do i need with AN 3 series for RDWC

Today is the day for a res change and i notice on one of the two plants I’m running in my RDWC system ( it is the one with roots already touching water other plant does not have them touching yet) is having these funky “wavy” and “flat” looking leaves. Any advice before i make my res change. My water has stayed in between 5.5-5.9 ph and 68-73 degrees and using hydro gaurd and AN ph perfect trio as well as Cali mag. Ppm were at 420 and never dropped by much over the 5 days this res has been in there ? Any help would be appreciated gents y’all have already helped very much

Too much light maybe?

That would make sense Cause i have it under a mars hydro tsw2000 and i literally moved it down to like 2 feet above plants just a weeks ago and that is about when it started doing that . I have the adjustable one so I’ll turn it down to half power and see if that helps. How long will the plant show the difference in these systems ? This is my first time using dwc have used soil for years ? Thanks brotha

Sour D from Dallas tx said:

That would make sense Cause i have it under a mars hydro tsw2000 and i literally moved it down to like 2 feet above plants just a weeks ago and that is about when it started doing that . I have the adjustable one so I’ll turn it down to half power and see if that helps. How long will the plant show the difference in these systems ? This is my first time using dwc have used soil for years ? Thanks brotha

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Once u have a hand full of roots in the water its an adult plant and can be treated as such.You roots will start to explode in the next few days.Be patient.

Patience is not my strong point lol but i gotcha bro I’m def ready to see some growth so i can start training this bishhhhh. This plant is a chocobang i also have a sweet breath both seeds started at same time and no roots at all showing coming out of the net pod? Should i do anything with that or is it just like soil where some just put out roots faster than others ? It is still growing just very slowly? Guess I’m asking if i should pull back the clay and manually feed the root down into res so i don’t end up with two different size plants? I know you are thinking this dude is tripping lol but I’m just asking because i have zero experience with this system so want to maximize my run and y’all have way more experience with it fo sho! Thanks brotha

Also am being very cautious with Nutes right now as it’s a recirculating system so what one gets the other gets so don’t want to hAve to baby the adult plant to long to wait on the other if there is a trick or something i don’t know about

keep an eye out for tip burn. 420ppm is pretty high for a seedling IMO.

As long as the bubbles from the airstone are splashing up and keeping the bottom wet its all good.You want the roots to reach for moisture if you top feed then they wont go looking.The clay pebbles will wick moisture up.

rkymtnman said:

keep an eye out for tip burn. 420ppm is pretty high for a seedling IMO.

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Yeah i have been for sure cause i got a lot of advice on that from folks before i started i just mixed too strong and said I’ll just leave it and watch and they look fine so i let it ride im about to do a res change and will def bring it down to 200 ish this time? That is good right ?
also will i fuck shit up if i pull out Hydroton and help roots through the net pot on the one that isn’t showing any roots through ? I started them at same time and one has no roots showing at all and the other one has 4 roots in water already? Don’t want it to get way ahead of the other one since they are both in same recirculating system

Sour D from Dallas tx said:

Yeah i have been for sure cause i got a lot of advice on that from folks before i started i just mixed too strong and said I’ll just leave it and watch and they look fine so i let it ride im about to do a res change and will def bring it down to 200 ish this time? That is good right ?
also will i fuck shit up if i pull out Hydroton and help roots through the net pot on the one that isn’t showing any roots through ? I started them at same time and one has no roots showing at all and the other one has 4 roots in water already? Don’t want it to get way ahead of the other one since they are both in same recirculating system

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leave it,it is what it is.There still seedlings.what ppm is your base water?

I mean dont dick with the pebbles,

Sour D from Dallas tx said:

That would make sense Cause i have it under a mars hydro tsw2000 and i literally moved it down to like 2 feet above plants just a weeks ago and that is about when it started doing that . I have the adjustable one so I’ll turn it down to half power and see if that helps. How long will the plant show the difference in these systems ? This is my first time using dwc have used soil for years ? Thanks brotha

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I use Mars-Hydro TSW-2000 panels and in VEG I run them on the lowest brightness with no problem and I top my plants until they're about 4' tall before flipping and increasing brightness to 100%.

With those Mars Hydro they put off the best spectrum if they're 18-20" away from the tops of the plant(s). The waviness I've seen from plants over watered or you'll sometimes see a "ripple" look or ruffly look. I honestly wouldn't worry about any of that it looks like a healthy plant. using Advanced Nutrients you will want to run their line on the light side its a very powerful formula! I get tip burn using 2 oz of each part per/5 gallons of water; they call for like 3 ounces of each per/5 gallons. Even with 6 foot tall 4 foot wide plants in 10 gallon pots of coco they cannot handle that much nutrients without seeing obvious tip burn and stress from too much food.

1 oz of each part per/2.5 gallons is what I have had the best success with.

Water Temps
You want the res to be 60-70 F ideally and keep it in that range. Once you get above 75 F you start risking experiencing root slime and gunky stuff.. Then you'll be hunting down enzymes and all sorts of stuff OR have to kill any microbial life off using h2o2 or something alike to fix the root diseases if they occur. This goes for water you feed potted plants even.

I moved to coco from deep water culture because of the odd plant reactions with certain genetics. In Coco or Sunshine Mix #4 they just all flourish with the same nutrient solution I'd use in DWC except with even more goodies.

p.s Advanced Nutrients "ph perfect" formulas aren't really reliable to track ppm you are better feeding by MLs or ounces.. Personally though my finished mix for bloom with Bud Ignitor, B-52, Overdrive, Carboload & Big Bud Coco is around 1600-1650 PPM and my plants don't flinch. I use 1 ounce of each product per/5 gallons and 2 ounces each of each base nutrient.

rkymtnman said:

keep an eye out for tip burn. 420ppm is pretty high for a seedling IMO.

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Advanced Nutrients "ph perfect" adds quite a bit of ppm. 400-600 even for seedlings works good with AN. I was running 400-500 ppm seedling > 800-900 ppm veg and 1200 ppm bloom. I just noticed perfect frosty tips as I like to call them lol. FROSTED TIPS BRAH.

Week 1 I use 0.5 oz of each part.
Week 2 I use 1 oz of each part.
Week 3 I use 2 oz of each part.

Once I go into bloom the plants get 2 oz PER 5 gallons of water start to finish and love it. If I use 2.5 oz I always would have leaf burn and the bud will not turn out as clean in my experience. NEVER USE BIG BUD POWDER IT WILL DESTROY YOUR WEED.

p.s I'm growing 6 foot tall plants with 16 square foot canopies and the plants never appear hungry. I should add I always use 2ml/gal of Botanicare CalMag+ before mixing my Reverse Osmosis water. In Coco I use 5ml but that's irrelevant to this thread.

myke said:

leave it,it is what it is.There still seedlings.what ppm is your base water?

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I use all ro water so my Ppm is starting at 0

Sour D from Dallas tx said:

Yeah i have been for sure cause i got a lot of advice on that from folks before i started i just mixed too strong and said I’ll just leave it and watch and they look fine so i let it ride im about to do a res change and will def bring it down to 200 ish this time? That is good right ?
also will i fuck shit up if i pull out Hydroton and help roots through the net pot on the one that isn’t showing any roots through ? I started them at same time and one has no roots showing at all and the other one has 4 roots in water already? Don’t want it to get way ahead of the other one since they are both in same recirculating system

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don't touch your roots and if there is no burn, just keep it as is. just keep an eye on them and prepare to reduce ppms if needed

The best thing u can do is go to work,dont go in your room.lol.

myke said:

The best thing u can do is go to work,dont go in your room.lol.

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Lol i feel that fo sho I’m ready to train these bitches i built this system so i had something to fuck with cause soil i feel like I’ve maxed out my talent for the most part. But i am leaving them alone lol

calvin.m16 said:

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Week 1 I use 0.5 oz of each part.
Week 2 I use 1 oz of each part.
Week 3 I use 2 oz of each part.

Once I go into bloom the plants get 2 oz PER 5 gallons of water start to finish and love it. If I use 2.5 oz I always would have leaf burn and the bud will not turn out as clean in my experience. NEVER USE BIG BUD POWDER IT WILL DESTROY YOUR WEED.

p.s I'm growing 6 foot tall plants with 16 square foot canopies and the plants never appear hungry. I should add I always use 2ml/gal of Botanicare CalMag+ before mixing my Reverse Osmosis water. In Coco I use 5ml but that's irrelevant to this thread.

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I just did my res change and i used your numbers brotha so let’s see how these ladies respond! I think I’m just going to run the three with calimag and hydrogaurd and 2 weeks each stage of voodoo juice and leave it at that for my first run. Then next run i will put in more additives at the end for sure. I am running 10 inch net pots in 5 gal buckets so may switch to 6 next time. Cause using those big ass net pots I’m only able to fit 5-6 gallons in the whole system or water goes above bottom of net pot.

calvin.m16 said:

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Week 1 I use 0.5 oz of each part.
Week 2 I use 1 oz of each part.
Week 3 I use 2 oz of each part.

Once I go into bloom the plants get 2 oz PER 5 gallons of water start to finish and love it. If I use 2.5 oz I always would have leaf burn and the bud will not turn out as clean in my experience. NEVER USE BIG BUD POWDER IT WILL DESTROY YOUR WEED.

p.s I'm growing 6 foot tall plants with 16 square foot canopies and the plants never appear hungry. I should add I always use 2ml/gal of Botanicare CalMag+ before mixing my Reverse Osmosis water. In Coco I use 5ml but that's irrelevant to this thread.

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Also you doing res changes every week?