What do you know about aliens?

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guy incognito

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Also why didn't you try to get evidence again? You clearly have the capability to record yourself. At no point did it click in your brain that maybe you should get photographic evidence to back up the most astounding discovery ever? Picture? Video? Phone a friend or family member to come check it out?

This discovery is literally so big I don't know how you could justify doing nothing but staring. If that situation doesn't call for some emergency contacting of other people then I don't know what does.
 
Nevaeh420

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guy incognito said:
No I don't. Clouds make crazy shapes all the time..
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Your right, clouds do make funny shapes sometimes but these were all so vivid. Clouds don't shape their self into what looked like a god figure and upside down triangles that have 3 or so layers. Clouds don't cover the sky in undulating waves the first time I ever thought about underwater cities, and I was in prison when that happened, no drugs. Clouds don't get as black black black like the way I saw it on Good Friday of 2009. I've been looking at clouds My whole life and I believe these were signs of some sort.

guy incognito said:
Lets examine the bold statement. You saw something on your neighbors roof. I believe that. You have no reason to lie, and it seems entirely plausible something was on that roof..
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That's right, there was something on top of My neighbors roof, and I wouldn't lie. The only two options I can think of are that it was either an alien or an above top secret military job. And I have little reason to believe that the government would send someone wearing an invisibility/translucent suit to spy on My in the city that I live.

guy incognito said:
Why do you leap to the conclusion that it was an alien? Here are some alternate explanations:.
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I didn't leap to the conclusion, its been a long time since I saw the being, right about a year ago. Your right its an assumption that I have made. I don't have any proof except My testimony. I still don't have a video camera so if the being came today, I still wouldn't be able to produce evidence.

guy incognito said:
1. Your mind is playing tricks on you. Your personal experience was real, but does not reflect reality accurately. People have witnessed pink elephants before. People have dreams. Drugs can also induce hallucinations. .
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I don't believe I was on drugs when I saw any of the signs and I certainly was not dreaming. I'm sure most of us can tell the difference between dreaming and reality. I don't remember most of My dreams, and if I do remember a few I usually forget it the same week.

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2. You saw something terrestrial. It appeared to have an invisibility suit (how the fuck can you see something with an invisibility suit? Doesn't you detecting it visually make it NOT an invisibility suit by definition? - but anyway...) but was really something of this earth that you could not identify..
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I don't know if it was terrestrial or extraterrestrial! The reason why I say it had on an invisibility suit is because I don't feel like writing "invisibility/translucent suit". At first the being was totally invisible and than after many minutes of looking at the roof and tree, it appeared out of "nowhere". And your right, I can not identify it as something terrestrial, so I call it a being that might be an alien.

guy incognito said:
When you compare either of those options against your assumed position of "it's aliens", don't they seem orders of magnitude more plausible? We have thousands and thousands of cases of people "seeing" things that seem unexplainable, but upon investigation we are actually able to explain them. Sure not every case of a DTM user, or mentally unstable person, or a mentally stable person, or an exhausted or sleep deprived person experiencing "aliens" can be or has been explained, but not a single one has ever been explained as "aliens" (with real evidence) either. Not a single case ever in the history of humanity. None. Not even a single shred of real evidence. .
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I would love for what I saw that day to be explained. I honestly don't know what it was, was it an alien or a human wearing an invisibility/translucent suit? It certainly was a being.

I just wish I had a video of what I saw that day in 2012, and I guarantee that if you saw what I saw, you would believe it was an alien too, without a proper explanation.

guy incognito said:
Even if I experienced it first hand. The alien personally communicated with. Interacted with me physically. Unless I could produce solid evidence that would be able to convince other skeptics I would be forced to accept that my mind played tricks on me, or something else (non alien) is playing tricks with me. Either of those options would seem infinitely more plausible than actually being visited by aliens.
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It does sound crazy, and it was a crazy encounter. I just need a video of what I saw. I'll never be able to time travel back into the past and get a video of what I saw though. My best evidence would be to take a lie detector test and prove that I'm telling the truth to the best of My abilities. That still wouldn't prove if what I saw was terrestrial or extraterrestrial but it would prove that I'm telling the truth.

~PEACE~
 
Nevaeh420

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guy incognito said:
Also why didn't you try to get evidence again? You clearly have the capability to record yourself. At no point did it click in your brain that maybe you should get photographic evidence to back up the most astounding discovery ever? Picture? Video? Phone a friend or family member to come check it out? .
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As I posted, I still don't have a video camera, I do have a webcam attached to My laptop but that's it. That's how I recorded Myself.

I honestly wasn't thinking on getting a picture because I only have a cell phone camera and the resolution is not like a camera with a zoom.

At the time I was mesmerized and I just wanted to watch. I didn't think it would be "the most astounding discovery ever". I was just trying to look at what I was seeing. It was translucent so its not like I could see it great.

I honestly didn't want to tell My family about the being because My brother had big guns at the time and he might have shot it. Plus I didn't want to get the being in trouble by showing it to anyone. I thought that if I showed the being to someone, the being might just disappear again.

guy incognito said:
This discovery is literally so big I don't know how you could justify doing nothing but staring. If that situation doesn't call for some emergency contacting of other people then I don't know what does.
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That's all I did was stare at it. But I did call 911 when I saw the UFOs a month prior to seeing the being.

You don't know how bad I wish I had it all on video tape.

~PEACE~
 
guy incognito

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Nevaeh420 said:
Your right, clouds do make funny shapes sometimes but these were all so vivid. Clouds don't shape their self into what looked like a god figure and upside down triangles that have 3 or so layers. Clouds don't cover the sky in undulating waves the first time I ever thought about underwater cities, and I was in prison when that happened, no drugs. Clouds don't get as black black black like the way I saw it on Good Friday of 2009. I've been looking at clouds My whole life and I believe these were signs of some sort.
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Even your explanation is rife with subjectivity. WTF is a "god figure"? So the clouds took on the shape of something that you cannot possibly know the shape of? That doesn't even make sense and I hope you realize that. Yes clouds do all those things. Why didn't everyone else within a 50 mile radius of you see the same thing? Why weren't news crews out documenting this unprecedented meteorological phenomenon?

Seriously, doesn't it strike you as strange that YOU saw this, but no one else did? Doesn't it seem infinitely more likely that you hallucinated? Or perhaps have something organically wrong with your brain? Maybe there is something wrong with the part of your brain responsible for vision that is causing you to see things?

Nevaeh420 said:
That's right, there was something on top of My neighbors roof, and I wouldn't lie. The only two options I can think of are that it was either an alien or an above top secret military job. And I have little reason to believe that the government would send someone wearing an invisibility/translucent suit to spy on My in the city that I live.
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Really, those are the ONLY 2 options you can think of? Even though you have already been provided with multiple other explanations that are way more plausible?

What about this: Someone creates a device that can beam radio waves at the correct frequency and focus them on the vision center of your brain causing you to have vivid hallucinations. As implausible and crazy as that seems, doesn't it still seem more likely than a fucking alien showing up on your neighbors roof one time and never leaving a trace of evidence?


Nevaeh420 said:
I didn't leap to the conclusion, its been a long time since I saw the being, right about a year ago. Your right its an assumption that I have made. I don't have any proof except My testimony. I still don't have a video camera so if the being came today, I still wouldn't be able to produce evidence.
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Leaping to a conclusion doesn't mean it was hasty (although that is usually the case), it just means you have no evidence to bridge the gap. A happened, therefore B. You literally "leapt" over anything that connected the two. That is the problem. Everyone but you is thinking "wait, wtf, how did you get to THAT conclusion?!?!"

Nevaeh420 said:
I don't believe I was on drugs when I saw any of the signs and I certainly was not dreaming. I'm sure most of us can tell the difference between dreaming and reality. I don't remember most of My dreams, and if I do remember a few I usually forget it the same week.
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So you can eliminate drugs and dreaming as possibilities. What about delusions or hallucinations? We have thousands of documented cases of exactly that happening to humans. We have ZERO documented cases of aliens.

Nevaeh420 said:
I don't know if it was terrestrial or extraterrestrial! The reason why I say it had on an invisibility suit is because I don't feel like writing "invisibility/translucent suit". At first the being was totally invisible and than after many minutes of looking at the roof and tree, it appeared out of "nowhere". And your right, I can not identify it as something terrestrial, so I call it a being that might be an alien.
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Translucent is not the same as invisible. And just because you cannot positively identify something as terrestrial does not mean it is alien.

Nevaeh420 said:
I would love for what I saw that day to be explained. I honestly don't know what it was, was it an alien or a human wearing an invisibility/translucent suit? It certainly was a being.

I just wish I had a video of what I saw that day in 2012, and I guarantee that if you saw what I saw, you would believe it was an alien too, without a proper explanation.



It does sound crazy, and it was a crazy encounter. I just need a video of what I saw. I'll never be able to time travel back into the past and get a video of what I saw though. My best evidence would be to take a lie detector test and prove that I'm telling the truth to the best of My abilities. That still wouldn't prove if what I saw was terrestrial or extraterrestrial but it would prove that I'm telling the truth.

~PEACE~
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You say you don't know what it was, but you have definitively claimed it was an alien multiple times. A lie detector would be a terrible test of proof. They won't even allow that shit in court and the court system is a fucking joke. They allow eye witness testimony in court and it's been proven that is unreliable. All a lie detector will prove is either that you believe you are telling the truth, or that you are able to defeat a lie detector test.
 
guy incognito

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Nevaeh420 said:
As I posted, I still don't have a video camera, I do have a webcam attached to My laptop but that's it. That's how I recorded Myself.

I honestly wasn't thinking on getting a picture because I only have a cell phone camera and the resolution is not like a camera with a zoom.

At the time I was mesmerized and I just wanted to watch. I didn't think it would be "the most astounding discovery ever". I was just trying to look at what I was seeing. It was translucent so its not like I could see it great.

I honestly didn't want to tell My family about the being because My brother had big guns at the time and he might have shot it. Plus I didn't want to get the being in trouble by showing it to anyone. I thought that if I showed the being to someone, the being might just disappear again.



That's all I did was stare at it. But I did call 911 when I saw the UFOs a month prior to seeing the being.

You don't know how bad I wish I had it all on video tape.

~PEACE~
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Your logic is absolutely baffling. You didn't think about getting a picture because all you have is a laptop webcam and a cell phone camera? What? Seriously? There is a FUCKING ALIEN outside and you think anything less than professional photography equipment isn't even worth attempting?

And seriously you think your brother would just shoot this thing? No questions asked, no investigation, not even yelling "hey you there! freeze!" and then gauging the situation? He would just simply shoot? Sounds like your brother is a dangerous retard that should not have access to firearms.

You thought if you showed the being to someone that it might get scared away and disappear. So your alternative is to literally do nothing and let it leave anyway?

 
tyler.durden

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guy incognito said:
No I don't. Clouds make crazy shapes all the time.

Lets examine the bold statement. You saw something on your neighbors roof. I believe that. You have no reason to lie, and it seems entirely plausible something was on that roof.

Why do you leap to the conclusion that it was an alien? Here are some alternate explanations:

1. Your mind is playing tricks on you. Your personal experience was real, but does not reflect reality accurately. People have witnessed pink elephants before. People have dreams. Drugs can also induce hallucinations.

2. You saw something terrestrial. It appeared to have an invisibility suit (how the fuck can you see something with an invisibility suit? Doesn't you detecting it visually make it NOT an invisibility suit by definition? - but anyway...) but was really something of this earth that you could not identify.

When you compare either of those options against your assumed position of "it's aliens", don't they seem orders of magnitude more plausible? We have thousands and thousands of cases of people "seeing" things that seem unexplainable, but upon investigation we are actually able to explain them. Sure not every case of a DTM user, or mentally unstable person, or a mentally stable person, or an exhausted or sleep deprived person experiencing "aliens" can be or has been explained, but not a single one has ever been explained as "aliens" (with real evidence) either. Not a single case ever in the history of humanity. None. Not even a single shred of real evidence.

Even if I experienced it first hand. The alien personally communicated with. Interacted with me physically. Unless I could produce solid evidence that would be able to convince other skeptics I would be forced to accept that my mind played tricks on me, or something else (non alien) is playing tricks with me. Either of those options would seem infinitely more plausible than actually being visited by aliens.
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Hey, Guy! Good to see you on the boards. Everything that you asked of Nevaeh has already been asked by others, and at first it's interesting to see how his mind works, but it gets really old really fast. This line from his post below just about sums up his thinking process: "The only two options I can think of are that it was either an alien or an above top secret military job. And I have little reason to believe that the government would send someone wearing an invisibility/translucent suit to spy on My in the city that I live." He's got little reason to think our terrestrial gov't is spying on him, but apparently he has reasons to think aliens would travel across vast distances to spy on him. WTF!? You can't cure stupid. Nevaeh, Chief, and this new clown, Ineverveg, are not interested in reality, they want their cool sounding ideas to be true and will present any specious material to further their agenda, and ignore all evidence and logic about what's really going on. Rational people attempt to gather all the factual data available, then form their beliefs wherever that data leads. These guys do it in reverse: they find a really neato, super-cool idea then attempt to find data to support it. Ass-backward. I'm not sure if it's stupidity, desperation, or a combination of both. They don't value logic or evidence, so there's little effect when we attempt to employ them...
 
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I'm starting to wonder if we're the ones that are insane. Trying to teach a delusional person to use logic and critical thought is itself kind of crazy This guy admits he's delusional, he thinks he's christ, yet cannot understand why people just don't take his experiences at his word. Of course that's how a fucked up mind works. They see shit that isn't there and convince themselves, not only it is real, but it occurred because he is somehow an important, special person. Clouds, aliens, etc. all for his special benefit. Psychiatrists have decades of work before they can help this person, yet somehow we think we can do it on an online pot forum? Yep, we're the nutty ones.
 
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mindphuk said:
I'm starting to wonder if we're the ones that are insane. Trying to teach a delusional person to use logic and critical thought is itself kind of crazy This guy admits he's delusional, he thinks he's christ, yet cannot understand why people just don't take his experiences at his word. Of course that's how a fucked up mind works. They see shit that isn't there and convince themselves, not only it is real, but it occurred because he is somehow an important, special person. Clouds, aliens, etc. all for his special benefit. Psychiatrists have decades of work before they can help this person, yet somehow we think we can do it on an online pot forum? Yep, we're the nutty ones.
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That one time I saw Nevaeh and OldGrowth interact reminded me of this;

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Do you believe there is any value in what we try to do?
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

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tyler.durden said:
You stated it as a fact, that is deceptive. Since you've only met a few people who don't believe in aliens (when we say believe in aliens, we mean ET life visiting our planet, just to be clear), that means the majority of North America does? Your thinking process is a joke...


I'm starting to suspect that you are not as nearly as bright as I once thought. You asked me to show you evidence against the conspiracy, and I pointed out that it's the lack of evidence for the conspiracy that makes its claims specious. Don't hurt yourself over this one...

It took me less than one minute to find out the ideas, and the movie Thrive itself, are total crap - http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/ A key member of the film, John Robbins, repudiated the movie publicly in this letter -
http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/humanity-and-sanity-the-full-text-of-john-robbinss-repudiation-of-thrive-and-its-conspiracy-theories/

Again you demonstrate that you are not concerned with accuracy, facts, logic, reality or critical thinking. All you seem to care about is how cool something seems , and if you believe really, really hard, and ignore all facts and logic and empirical evidence against the cool idea, it might become true. This isn't a Disney movie, I suggest you grow up. Serious question, do you fully support yourself financially? It's hard to believe someone that has a job and takes care of all their responsibilities could get away with attempting to live in such a fairy tale and still function effectively...



Did you watch the movie your link referred to? Isn't it all about the corporate and gov't conspiracy to suppress advanced free energy technology? Why are you arguing with the line of reasoning that your own link endorses? And lastly, how the fuck do you dress yourself? Or is that begging the question?


I know. You think it's safe to assume anything and everything you want to be true...


I don't know what comes to terms means. I would think that you amuse MP and that he thinks some of your ideas are cool. They are certainly more entertaining than the normal scripture-dump we usually see around here. I doubt he takes you or what you have to say seriously, but I cannot speak for him...



You went into great detail (way too much detail) on how you tested your friend's telepathic abilities. Those were sloppy attempts with no controls. I only know what you decide to post. Honestly Chief, imo you are a joke: your thinking process, your dishonesty, your deception, your pretense, it's all so immature and self-indulgent masturbation. I think anyone can see this from your exchanges, and through them they know that if they are interested in discovering anything about reality they can safely ignore your posts...

P.S. Get back to me on that support question, if you'd be so kind...
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Most of North America believes in ghosts. Whats the difference between believing ghosts and believing in aliens? They both rely on experiences and testimonies. Your average person sees an unidentified flying object then BAM, he decides to identify it as an alien space ship, thats what most people do. Just like when your average person sees a spooky transparent girl walk into a room and disappears, most people think ghost. They tell these stories to all of their friends and family, which a lot of them have experienced something similar, multiplying the believers. Its really not all that hard to wrap your head around. Are you even trying to understand or are you too focused on doing the helicopter and challenging me to a sword fight? I hope you caught on to that one lol.

That was a GREAT read as I agree with most of what has been said in that letter about Thrive. I too found a lot of the conspiracy stuff to be bullshit. I think the richest people in the world do play a role in how government is corrupt but Thrive does go a tad bit over the top... Regarding the government stuff, my view is that of the writer with just a sprinkle of crazy =p. The funny thing is, by posting that letter, you havent addressed the subject I brought up. You just found the letter, got excited, posted it, and said "AHA!" and completely forgot about what I claimed. Adam Trombly is one of the signers of that letter and the letter stated that each person interviewed meant exactly what they said in the interview, and Adam Trombly said he knows how to make a free energy machine and has made one. The task I assigned you was to try and dig up dirt on Adam Trombly and all the other names mentioned in that short clip. Instead you went completely off topic and you victoriously pranced around with shaft in hand and a ruler in the other while I ended up agreeing with most of the letter... Sorry if that made you flaccid just now ... Minus all the conspiracy bullshit, I do find Thrive to be inspiring and I especially liked the scientific bit on the Flower of Life.

I guess I should of made it clear that I think the government is using alien technology behind closed doors. I was too caught up in this cluster fuck of a discussion to even think about that lol Kind of a major fuck up there. My bad. :dunce:

MP did say he took some things I had to say seriously in the sense that some of my ideas actually made him think. Though I do agree that he doesnt take me seriously entirely. I was just saying we found more respect for each other and it seems receiving or giving respect from the opposition is not your intention at all. You just wanna wave your dick in our faces...

I asked Pad a hypothetical question that related to my experiences and he gave an honest answer saying if that happened to him, he would be convinced his thought was just read.

Honestly tyler, imo, you are an intelligent yet narcissistic meat head. You dont look to have discussions with people that have supernatural beliefs. Judging from your comment of theists being "squirming retards" (paraphrasing) you posted in another thread, it seems you're an anti-theist thats only looking to make all opposition look like fools. If every person you know explained to you why they think their supernatural beliefs are real then you would have a lot less friends because you seem to lose all respect to those who try to explain those beliefs and you come off as a prime douche bag. Also, I've had a few intelligent people comment on here saying they always enjoy reading what I post, and not because they think its ridiculous either. One of those people being AbandonConflict who I think is quite the intelligent fellow, I dont think hes a theist though. The other two or three were squirming retards that you like to call theists, so I might as well not even mention them...
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

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Zaehet Strife said:
It shows progress on your front when you admit that they probably exist, rather than claim that you know with certainty they do exist. Keep it up, you may be onto something.
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Perhaps you can make the exact same leap and say with certainty that you dont know if anyone knows if souls exist? You too would be on to something...
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

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Oh, and to answer your question tyler. Im currently living in a basement sweet with my room mate and Im currently making $14 an hour at a shitty labor job going paycheck to paycheck though I probably have it better than a lot of people. I procrastinated too much on upgrading my courses so I'll have to wait another year before attending college/university. Oh, and each morning I clothe myself by turning off the lights and getting into a heated battle with my dresser, I win every time and end up looking FABULOUS! lol
 
tyler.durden

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
That was a GREAT read as I agree with most of what has been said in that letter about Thrive. I too found a lot of the conspiracy stuff to be bullshit. I think the richest people in the world do play a role in how government is corrupt but Thrive does go a tad bit over the top... Regarding the government stuff, my view is that of the writer with just a sprinkle of crazy =p. The funny thing is, by posting that letter, you havent addressed the subject I brought up. You just found the letter, got excited, posted it, and said "AHA!" and completely forgot about what I claimed. Adam Trombly is one of the signers of that letter and the letter stated that each person interviewed meant exactly what they said in the interview, and Adam Trombly said he knows how to make a free energy machine and has made one. The task I assigned you was to try and dig up dirt on Adam Trombly and all the other names mentioned in that short clip. Instead you went completely off topic and you victoriously pranced around with shaft in hand and a ruler in the other while I ended up agreeing with most of the letter... Sorry if that made you flaccid just now ... Minus all the conspiracy bullshit, I do find Thrive to be inspiring and I especially liked the scientific bit on the Flower of Life.
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To the bolded, if anyone else besides Chief missed my first link in post #453 that thoroughly debunks the farce of a movie, Thrive, here it is again - http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/. It is directly before the link to the letter Chief is referring to...

P.S. Trombly is a quack and a fraud, no wonder you feel such an affinity for him - http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/who-is-adam-trombly/

Learn how to use Google to verify the legitimacy of your ideas before you post, lest you come off looking like a retard. As if that type of thing bothered you...
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

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tyler.durden said:
To the bolded, if anyone else besides Chief missed my first link in post #453 that thoroughly debunks the farce of a movie, Thrive, here it is again - http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/. It is directly before the link Chief is referring to...
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I wanted you to specifically address a certain topic. Can you post a quote from that long piece of work that addresses Adam Trombly and the handful of other scientists that claim to have made a free energy device? What does it say about the owner of a free energy magazine who was mysteriously beaten to death?
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

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Oh, nevermind. Its there. And the explanation is that free, unlimited energy of any kind violates the laws of physics. So based on the current understanding of physics and thermal dynamics, no device will ever exist.

Its a darn shame people put such confining limits on what they think is possible...
 
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