What does this look like to you guys

Tim Fox

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Your grow is having problem s and you are saying that you are going to read a book?
Reading teaming with microbes will not fix your cupping
 

Anonymous...

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Yes very true I have already raised my light a tad and I'm going to buy another fan tomorrow but to be honest I'm not gunna do anything at the moment last time I freaked out and tried fixing 1000 things all I did was make matters worst. I plan to water it tomorrow and I'd like to get a Lil cal mag maybe I can find something that goes good with organic. But to be honest idk or even think i should do anything else other than that. Do you agree?
 

Tim Fox

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Yes very true I have already raised my light a tad and I'm going to buy another fan tomorrow but to be honest I'm not gunna do anything at the moment last time I freaked out and tried fixing 1000 things all I did was make matters worst. I plan to water it tomorrow and I'd like to get a Lil cal mag maybe I can find something that goes good with organic. But to be honest idk or even think i should do anything else other than that. Do you agree?
thats a good plan,, slow and steady
plus the plant looks ok for the time being, Nice
 

Tim Fox

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knowing your humidity level is half the battle,, and if you cant change your humidity, you can change your temp, match your temp to the Vapor pressure scale and your cupping will improve,, but just like did, raising the light and uping the air circ is a good compromise,
heck keeping the plant alive is something your doing just fine so far!!,, yes you are learning fast
 

Anonymous...

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My humidity has been pretty high I have four things a damprid to lower the humidity but it doesn't help a ton I just can't afford a dehumidifier at the time I just dropped about 600 bucks for new equipment and more pots and soil, so I have to just manage right now. My heat is a Lil high but I have an a/c window unit I'm going to be putting in the window tomorrow just need some duck tape first to seal up the rest of the window and make sure its lights proof. But right now temp is 79 and humidity is 51% I know both are really high for flowering but I'm doing all I can at the moment.
 

Anonymous...

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And yes I don't have any problems keeping my plants alive its getting them to look and stay healthy, I know basics of gardening but this is a whole new world. By this time next year I should be able to help others a Lil bit. But my plan is to have another year of successful grows before I think about trying to help others and spread bs growing methods, like thousands already do!
 

Tim Fox

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And yes I don't have any problems keeping my plants alive its getting them to look and stay healthy, I know basics of gardening but this is a whole new world. By this time next year I should be able to help others a Lil bit. But my plan is to have another year of successful grows before I think about trying to help others and spread bs growing methods, like thousands already do!
Lots of info to glean thru for sure finding what works for you, surprisingly many methods work , but the basics never change
 

Anonymous...

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Yes that's really what I've done is stop all the fancy shit and teas until I get a better understanding of what and how it works. Went ahead and did a top dressing of ewc and black gold compost. Just gunna give plain water for about two weeks maybe three then gunna try my hand at another high p and k guano tea for the few flowering. And a high n tea for my babies.just trying to keep it simple but I honestly believe some of my main problems are based on the fact I have no cal mag and have never used any. So we will see it will be a day or two before I can go get what I'm missing.
 

Dr. Who

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ok one more,, this one more directed at MJ ,, although general gardening does apply,, lol
So I've read the first 60 or so pages of the Living Organic Soil thread. It has me convinced that I can use Oyster shell, glacial and volcanic rock dust instead of using dolomite lime. I understand that DL takes a long time to break down and become available. I'm unsure of the why.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=247313
The only thing I put Dolo in is FFOF as it's lacking on extended use.....Never had a problem of availability by the time it's needed?

I use Oyster and egg shells, with garden gypsum to cover all stages of Cal needs.....Soil builds will have plenty of Mg available. I use a Mg sulfate and K sulfate liquid mix in bloom, so I get plenty of late Mg availabilty...

NEVER been a fan of Rev's laying crap! His soils leave WAY to much P in them for recharging them for Veg use.....At least I can see problems with his P levels in reused/recharged soils....No I haven't "tried"..... If I'm right, I don't know what I would do with all that bloom soil..
 

Anonymous...

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The only thing I put Dolo in is FFOF as it's lacking on extended use.....Never had a problem of availability by the time it's needed?

I use Oyster and egg shells, with garden gypsum to cover all stages of Cal needs.....Soil builds will have plenty of Mg available. I use a Mg sulfate and K sulfate liquid mix in bloom, so I get plenty of late Mg availabilty...

NEVER been a fan of Rev's laying crap! His soils leave WAY to much P in them for recharging them for Veg use.....At least I can see problems with his P levels in reused/recharged soils....No I haven't "tried"..... If I'm right, I don't know what I would do with all that bloom soil..
Would u go into a Lil more detail for how u use oyster and egg shells to compensate for cal mag. Also I've never heard of ur bloom formula. I'd love to hear more about it.
 

Dr. Who

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When I build I simply use oyster and ground eggshell at 50/50 to any given Dolo amount listed in a soil formula! Same amount total, just half of each......I do not wash out the shells and get a little blip of nutrient from them. Not enough to change any other used...

I make a "base" soil. this will carry you about 28 days and no need to add nutrients.
I take that and add a mix of nutrients, formulated to give a high N, with a proper amount of P&K to carry me to the Bloom point.....The concentrations of the mix are adjusted for length of veg time needed.....I up pot from solo's and the "base" to 1 gallons and a "weak" veg soil - lasts about 36 days for fast growing plants....They go to a 2 or 3 gallon with a little more of the mix added in the soil to last about 45 days.

They then go to 5 - 7 gallon pots and are placed in my "final or bloom" soil...This will have lowered N values, P's of differing up take times (faster to medium) and the "left over" N's from the veg soils will carry it to mid bloom and begin to slow down. The P will begin to slow at 6 or later weeks as needed and then I'll add some higher K teas to finish them out....

Basic mix formula's are made like this - your going to have to read this thread and she gives basic info on adjusting them. (it's also a good starting point to learn water only soils...

You'll need to know about nutrient sources and how the are taken up (fast - medium - slow)..TRY these to start.

http://www.lundproduce.com/N-P-K-Value-of-Everything.html

https://www.thenutrientcompany.com/npk-value-of-everything-organic-searchable-database/

http://www.grow-it-organically.com/npk-fertilizer.html

http://www.onlinepot.org/npk-charts-organic-fertilizers-and-soil-amendments-for-marijuana-cannabis-plants/
 
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