What does white widow yeild? please read/help!!!

Flowki

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Can someone help a here people on her saying they've vegged for 4 weeks and there plants still look bigger than mine I've been vegging for 9-10 weeks from the moment a cracked me seeds and mine look like this ☹
Try a coco/perlite mix, make sure you are not compacting the coco. Once rooted feed every day half strength in small 1L ish pots, keep the pots as close together as possible under the cfl. Try to bubble your nutrient solution for at-least an hour before each daily feeding.

As the leaves grow outward move the pots outward to give them space, as soon as the cfl no longer covers the plants (roughly a 1 foot square area) use the 400 and go up to your full strength feeding. Keep moving the pots outward every couple days so leaves are very slightly over lapped but not crowding each other. Once the pots are forced out to a point where you can fit in your final size pots, up pot. Or if you top, do that then move plants as close together as possible again, give them another week in the 1L pots to recover from the topping then up pot.

During the first week in final pot water 1L per day and then start watering to run off every day after that. You need to try and keep the coco wet so that the run off you are getting is true run off and not flooding run off, feeding daily limits flooding more. If you are feeding daily remove the run off as soon as it's finished.

If you decide to feed every other day then you definitely need to water slower, give the big pots 1L and wait 15 min or so to allow the coco to soak, repeat that again if they are at the point of heavy feeding (3L+). Then when you feed the rest, the run off you get is more likely true run off from nutrient soaked coco and roots. Even feeding every day will require this phased watering once you get good at building roots as they will dry out that fast.

With the pots you use try to put the first L in as fast as you can so it fills the entire top surface of the coco. You may see some run off doing this but it's flood run off going down the sides so ignore it. You want to get those sides of the pot wet so that the coco sponges out stopping subsequent L's running off in the same wasteful manner. You pretty much want to feed the rest in the same quick pouring way, difference being it's forced down through the coco getting more to the core, but that takes time hence the multi phase watering. Pretty much guarantee you they will take higher volume feedings and yield more by doing that. As tedious as it is..

Sorry I should add. The only exception to pouring the L's in fast is during the first week in the final pot. It's better to pour that single L slower into the base of the stem to ensure the smaller freshly transplanted core is getting soaked. Moisture will sponge to the outer edges of the coco by itself, along with the roots during that week.
 
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Jarrapottsy

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Watering til run off is never a bad thing, but sounds like its your roots that's the problem if you were going 7 days until they dry out.
Coco is hard to overwater but when young plants with small root zones get watered too often the roots get problems and that can continue as they don't get chance to recover.
You have two options that I see, you can let them dry out far more between waterings or you can add a fuck load of oxygen by either aerating your water or adding h202(follow instructions) this will combat the root problems.

Two more questions, where does the run off go once it exits the pots?
Are they sat on a cold floor such as a concrete basement or cold tiles?
I've just bought a air stone I've been using that this last feed a think there finally starting to take off at last, after 10mins I empty trays of the run off it a left 1 with 3 cm of run off in the tray to see if the roots would soak it up but the next morning it was still there minus some evaporation so I emptied it, I have clay balls in the bottom of the pot and it's on a carpet not really a cold floor
 

whitebb2727

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Yeah a think ya right a think I'm in to big pots I've been watering when the top of me coco drys but with the plants being so small I'm going 6-7 days with out them drying now as there getting bigger it's every 3-4 days, I've been watering till a get run off to stop the salt build up should a not be doing that when I'm early veg?
Using big pots will do that. They spend time making roots. In the end it will be a bigger plant than one stepped up.

Its a combo of things. The new light will help. Once they take off they will be fine.

I use to plant straight to 5-7 gallon pots.
 
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Jarrapottsy

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Its a combo of things. The new light will help. Once they take off they will be fine.

I use to plant straight to 5-7 gallon po
Using bug pots will do that. They spend time making roots. In the end it will be a bigger plant than one stepped up.

Its a combo of things. The new light will help. Once they take off they will be fine.

I use to plant straight to 5-7 gallon pots.
yeah there starting to take off now a would normally flick them to flower now but I've got 3 smaller 1s on other side of tent so I'm going to have to let them get bigger this time these are in 15 litre pots, here's some pics, the second pic 1 of them is 12 days behind and the other 2 are 17 days behind, I've tried to super crop the bigger plants in hope they slow down and don't get much taller so the smaller 1s can catch up what do you think
 

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Jarrapottsy

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1st pic is the 9th oct second pic is today 20th oct, personally a think they where using all there energy putting into the root with me putting them into big pots, a think once a flick to 660HPS and change form 12/12 they will take off
 

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whitebb2727

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Its a combo of things. The new light will help. Once they take off they will be fine.

I use to plant straight to 5-7 gallon po

yeah there starting to take off now a would normally flick them to flower now but I've got 3 smaller 1s on other side of tent so I'm going to have to let them get bigger this time these are in 15 litre pots, here's some pics, the second pic 1 of them is 12 days behind and the other 2 are 17 days behind, I've tried to super crop the bigger plants in hope they slow down and don't get much taller so the smaller 1s can catch up what do you think
Look under fed.
 

Lucky Luke

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Using bug pots will do that. They spend time making roots. In the end it will be a bigger plant than one stepped up.

Its a combo of things. The new light will help. Once they take off they will be fine.

I use to plant straight to 5-7 gallon pots.
haha, I was just wondering why I don't seem to get the seedling growth that some claim and stumbled onto this gold.
I up pot early, always have
Cheers.
 
So, I don't yet know how much this plant will yield. However this is a white widow who's genetics, are coming from queen royal seeds, so far im am very impressed by the vegetative vigor the plant has displayed, I think I will flip it into flower in the next couple days. The setup is a 300w led full spectrum grow light and regular potting soil in a 15 gallon pot. While the yield may have been lower without the implementation of supper cropping and HST as well as keeping the canopy trimmed back. I think I should be looking at somewhere between 8 and 12 oz's for this one plant though only time will tell. Though with proper nutrients and LST during flower it should achieve that no problem. I will add flowering photos week by week when I harvest.
 

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evergreengardener

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So, I don't yet know how much this plant will yield. However this is a white widow who's genetics, are coming from queen royal seeds, so far im am very impressed by the vegetative vigor the plant has displayed, I think I will flip it into flower in the next couple days. The setup is a 300w led full spectrum grow light and regular potting soil in a 15 gallon pot. While the yield may have been lower without the implementation of supper cropping and HST as well as keeping the canopy trimmed back. I think I should be looking at somewhere between 8 and 12 oz's for this one plant though only time will tell. Though with proper nutrients and LST during flower it should achieve that no problem. I will add flowering photos week by week when I harvest.
A 300w blurple light like that will not get you 8-12 oz guarantee that
 
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