What is Causing this?

Jrgrowin

Jrgrowin

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Hi, I am a new grower, first time. I am having a hard time diagnosing this issue. It looks like tobacco Mosiac Virus but I don't know anything about that just looks similar to other pictures i searched that related to the virus.
They are White Widow, Feminised seeds grown outdoors.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Let me know if you need more information
Thanks!

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Jrgrowin

Jrgrowin

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Thanks that is what i suspected. Funny this is its the biggest of the 3 and so far has the biggest buds growing. apart from the leaves id never know it was sick.
 
Moflow

Moflow

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Is the rest of the plant healty looking?
Maybe a pic of the whole plant would be good to see how bad it's affected?

I have a cutting of Sensi Star that throws up a few leaves similar your 2nd pic.
This cut has been around for at least 7/8 years and the 1/2 green 1/2 yellow leaf blade effect started appearing on plant 4/5 years ago. Only on a couple of leaves per plant.
I thought it might be a bit of mutation ....
Whatever it is the cut is alive and well and still going strong!
And the sensi star cut grows along with other strains and it doesn't affect them.
I also grow tomatoes but I've never had TMV.
I hope your plant just keeps ploughing on regardless.
I've a plant or 2 outdoors with a damaged leaf here and there. That's nature for ya... lol
but I'm not loosing any sleep over it.
 
Jrgrowin

Jrgrowin

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Moflow said:
Is the rest of the plant healty looking?
Maybe a pic of the whole plant would be good to see how bad it's affected?

I have a cutting of Sensi Star that throws up a few leaves similar your 2nd pic.
This cut has been around for at least 7/8 years and the 1/2 green 1/2 yellow leaf blade effect started appearing on plant 4/5 years ago. Only on a couple of leaves per plant.
I thought it might be a bit of mutation ....
Whatever it is the cut is alive and well and still going strong!
And the sensi star cut grows along with other strains and it doesn't affect them.
I also grow tomatoes but I've never had TMV.
I hope your plant just keeps ploughing on regardless.
I've a plant or 2 outdoors with a damaged leaf here and there. That's nature for ya... lol
but I'm not loosing any sleep over it.
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Thanks for the advice, good to know it might not be TMV, the plant overall seems very healthy to me. its actually the biggest one of the 3 and has the biggest buds so far. heres a picture of the whole plant, i actually had to dig a 1 ft hole for the pot to sit in because it fell over once. I am not loosing sleep over it, just curious more than anything. let me know what you think of the rest of the plant. DSC_0241.JPG
 
Jrgrowin

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it seems to be effecting the lower leaves, another this to point out is it was literally in contact with the other two plants long after i first noticed the change in leaves. I only separated them because the smell was strong only later to find out that needed to be done anyway assuming it is in fact TMV.
 
Moflow

Moflow

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Hi there Jrgrown.
That's one nice big sturdy looking plant.
The big picture gives us the big picture so to speak lol
Seems as if damage is close to the growing tips especially on left hand side of plant.
Otherwise healthy enough.
Just keep an eye on them and hopefully some else might chip in with some help.
What are you feeding them?
I'd give them a good feed maybe?

I see you are inadvertently ....or maybe on purpose supplying the plant with co2 from that vent in wall?

I'm at a latitude of 54 degrees, a tad more northerly than yourself at 50 degrees and probably 3000 miles away but with similar weather and your plants are a good bit farther along than mine. ☺
 
thebonzaseedbank

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Jrgrowin said:
Thanks for the advice, good to know it might not be TMV, the plant overall seems very healthy to me. its actually the biggest one of the 3 and has the biggest buds so far. heres a picture of the whole plant, i actually had to dig a 1 ft hole for the pot to sit in because it fell over once. I am not loosing sleep over it, just curious more than anything. let me know what you think of the rest of the plant. View attachment 3768491
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Nice looking plant there. Looks really healthy from this view point.
 
Jrgrowin

Jrgrowin

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Moflow said:
Hi there Jrgrown.
That's one nice big sturdy looking plant.
The big picture gives us the big picture so to speak lol
Seems as if damage is close to the growing tips especially on left hand side of plant.
Otherwise healthy enough.
Just keep an eye on them and hopefully some else might chip in with some help.
What are you feeding them?
I'd give them a good feed maybe?

I see you are inadvertently ....or maybe on purpose supplying the plant with co2 from that vent in wall?

I'm at a latitude of 54 degrees, a tad more northerly than yourself at 50 degrees and probably 3000 miles away but with similar weather and your plants are a good bit farther along than mine. ☺
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Thank you for the positive comments! I appreciate the input and yes I like big pictures LOL! I am not purposely supplying c02 that's from the gas fireplace and it's not on in the summer. I feed them a combination of fox farm tiger bloom and muskees organic fish feed (8-1-1) I'll definitely be keeping a keen eye on it.
 
Jrgrowin

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Moflow said:
Here's mine flowering outside for a reference compared to yours.
These are clones I stuck outside.
I wish mine were as far along as yours are.
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Yours are looking great! I'm glad mine are atleast on the right track. Gunna be awesome to reap the rewards :)
 
Moflow

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Thanks. That one was vegged under crappystar leds then threw out to the elements around June ish, not exactly sure lol
Its a 9 weeker indoors so it won't finish in time , say late October early November.
But I ain't too worried as it's going under Cree cobs as a wee experiment.
From artifical to natural to artifical light just to see how it goes as soon as I finish my re vamped shed.
What date have you pencilled in for chopping? 3rd week October or so?
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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image.png image.png image.png That looks like a variegation. I have a pics from a healthy plant in my garden. The plant shown has original white widow and Thai genetics. It is a Black widow x Blue Lemon Thai. If you do a search you will find many similar examples.
 
Moflow

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MichiganMedGrower said:
View attachment 3768653 View attachment 3768654 View attachment 3768655 That looks like a variegation. I have a pics from a healthy plant in my garden. The plant shown has original white widow and Thai genetics. It is a Black widow x Blue Lemon Thai. If you do a search you will find many similar examples.
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Hi there Michigan grower, I'll go with you on that. Thanks.
I called it a mutation.

I checked it out on Internet via images.
Looks like there's a lot of different ways it manifests itself
The Sensi Star leaves look similar to your pics but more like this pic I downloaded.
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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Moflow said:
Hi there Michigan grower, I'll go with you on that. Thanks.
I called it a mutation.

I checked it out on Internet via images.
Looks like there's a lot of different ways it manifests itself
The Sensi Star leaves look similar to your pics but more like this pic I downloaded.
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I grew some Greenhouse seeds auto northern lights on my first grow and one had these all over. I thought I had really screwed up back then.
 
Jrgrowin

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Moflow said:
Thanks. That one was vegged under crappystar leds then threw out to the elements around June ish, not exactly sure lol
Its a 9 weeker indoors so it won't finish in time , say late October early November.
But I ain't too worried as it's going under Cree cobs as a wee experiment.
From artifical to natural to artifical light just to see how it goes as soon as I finish my re vamped shed.
What date have you pencilled in for chopping? 3rd week October or so?
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Oh yah I've heard Cree lights are the way to go! Low quality leds are everywhere...
I was hoping to harvest earlier but honestly, first grow I'm letting the plants decide lol.
 
Jrgrowin

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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Jrgrowin said:
How did they turn out?
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Great. I overwatered as a new grower and had a lot of stress but ended up being patient and the little 3 foot plants made 3-4 oz each of very northern light like buds. Frosty earthy tasting and colorful. And potent but not in the way classic northern lights I remember were from the late 80's.

The pics of the grow are in an old phone. I may dig them out and post it.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Jrgrowin said:
Thanks for the post! I'm glad there's cases that either aren't related to TMV or at the very least the plant turned out fine!
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When I grew the NL and saw the weird leaves I followed the forum threads to tmv too. Tmv is not being found in tests as far as I know now and the symptoms look quite different to variegation on other plants. More sick and puffy. Lot of mis information mixed in with the good.
 
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