What is considered the first day of flowering?
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Lucky Luke
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Indoor? The day you hit the 12/12 timer.
OldMedUser
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For outdoor plants it's when you first start seeing those tiny pre-flowers getting new friends. For indoor it's like both the other posters said. Day one is the first day of 12/12.
We need a common starting point to judge things like flowering period or any rational/scientific discussion is moot.
Anyone who says it starts indoors when buds start happening have no idea how science or rational judgement actually works and should be suspect about anything they say with authority about any other subject. Kinda like Trump's Tweets.
We need a common starting point to judge things like flowering period or any rational/scientific discussion is moot.
Anyone who says it starts indoors when buds start happening have no idea how science or rational judgement actually works and should be suspect about anything they say with authority about any other subject. Kinda like Trump's Tweets.
BurnzyBurnz
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I guess you weren't angry this day. Good advice.For outdoor plants it's when you first start seeing those tiny pre-flowers getting new friends. For indoor it's like both the other posters said. Day one is the first day of 12/12.
We need a common starting point to judge things like flowering period or any rational/scientific discussion is moot.
Anyone who says it starts indoors when buds start happening have no idea how science or rational judgement actually works and should be suspect about anything they say with authority about any other subject. Kinda like Trump's Tweets.
SouthCross
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I consider day one of flower to be after the plant as reached adulthood. Stretch has stopped and the plant is at the stage to where it puts all effort into flower. Until then, it's a just juvenile showing sex.
About 5 weeks after switching the light. The first day it stops stretching is what I personally consider as 'flowering' in my own grows.
About 5 weeks after switching the light. The first day it stops stretching is what I personally consider as 'flowering' in my own grows.
Growdict
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what?? this doesnt make any sense and you are alone in this. unless you are 12/12 from seed/seedling. or maybe you are growing sativas that take 4 months to mature
Dr. Who
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I still don't get the "time of flower" thing.
It is NO accurate way of telling when the plant is done, or even near done!
I time nothing! The plant is done when it's done, and not until!
Bet most of you harvest early anyway.........I see it in the pics here all the time....
The guys that harvest correctly (that I know). Have for the most part, stopped posting....
Counting weeks (or days).....LMFAO!
It is NO accurate way of telling when the plant is done, or even near done!
I time nothing! The plant is done when it's done, and not until!
Bet most of you harvest early anyway.........I see it in the pics here all the time....
The guys that harvest correctly (that I know). Have for the most part, stopped posting....
Counting weeks (or days).....LMFAO!
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Dr. Who
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And how many here, actually speak the science? Besides, it's about when it's done right? That's what the person is leading on to.
I'm still right. It's done when it's done!
Too many variables to count weeks/days to harvest by a set calendar point value!!!!!!
To the general membership -
You want to reach plant potentials - Learn what "done" really is!
You want to talk plant science as in reaching potentials by feeding and when to change ratio's and start supplements?
THAT is when keeping "time" can be important.
Then again, some of us get to the point of simply looking at the plant and knowing when to do those things. After all, I'm not in school anymore and I'm not writing any papers to be published......You do have a point though OMU.....
cindysid
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I agree! Flowering times are estimates at best.
OrganicGorilla
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Growdict
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see the thing is, if you are running the same variety of clones in a perpetual indoor controlled system, you can know to the day when each plant will finish. Also, any issues you had during the grow, say one plant needed a bit of extra N during stretch, you can tweak on your next run. I note everything, but I learn better that way.
The plant is done when it is done, yes, but it will be done the next round at the same time unless conditions changed.
I have 4 strains running right now and they finish at day 59,62,67 and 70 respectively.
Benelli
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I've heard/read many debates on this. For me personally indoors- I don't usually start day 1 of flower until about 5-7 days after the flip and start seeing more pistils showing up. So for example, my strawberry cough I chop between 68-74 days from MY day 1. Not really sure why I do this and I am BY NO MEANS a pro.
GroErr
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Totally agree on tracking time to determine when they're finished, they're done when they're done.
However, I do count (from the flip because it's the only consistent way to determine finish time periods across various strains/phenos) to understand things like when I can expect a pheno to finish for timing perpetual runs, or select shorter running phenos for further breeding. Those things are worth knowing/recording when your strains/phenos are expected to finish. That said, changes in environment/equipment can affect finish times so all taken with a grain of salt. Like anything else, it's good information if you use it for something, otherwise it's just a waste of space in your brain or logs
chemphlegm
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When my girl shows full on sexy in flower, usually by week two , the clock starts. really just to see if the trichs are all cloudy like the breeder says they would be. In most cases here they are spot on with cloudy at the time they said they would be.
Long time ago they were not, then I equipped and controlled my room like theirs...and whaddya know....similar results abound.
I agree that many growers harvest weeks early for the misunderstandings, cash flow, laws, cycles, etc.
Long time ago they were not, then I equipped and controlled my room like theirs...and whaddya know....similar results abound.
I agree that many growers harvest weeks early for the misunderstandings, cash flow, laws, cycles, etc.
Lucky Luke
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I dont think "which is the first day of flower" , had much to do with the harvest time. Thats a different question all together.
Its just another stage i log in my dairy. Same as germ date, when and what I watered them with, up pot dates etc.
Its just another stage i log in my dairy. Same as germ date, when and what I watered them with, up pot dates etc.
klx
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What has day 1 of flowering got to do with harvesting? Knowing how long a strain takes to fully mature is really helpful when planning the next run, especially if you want to maximise your space. Has nothing to do with harvesting early.
Counting nothing, keeping no records? Sounds lazy to me.
SouthCross
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I have a stack of old calenders. It's like a grow journal by the day. All the fu¢k ups. All the right stuff. Everything is logged.
The information is gold.
The information is gold.
cat of curiosity
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for the most part...
cat of curiosity
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if indoors, there is really only one truly accurate count. that is the first twelve hour day after the first twelve hour night. assuming your plants are sexually mature, that is...