What is going on with this?

desplegado

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I do dtw coco probably no help but for what its worth thats from light. Just a natural suntan lotion but with plants. Are the ones less purple further from the light?

Usually its correlated but I reffrain from helping much in general but especially soil. Being newer grower and rarely did soil and soil theres lots of differences.

Wouldnt be suprised if there infact was somethin soil related going on but worth a thought. Sites getting quiet so any help is probably fine.
No granted the ones at the top are a little darker that's it
 

desplegado

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I do dtw coco probably no help but for what its worth thats from light. Just a natural suntan lotion but with plants. Are the ones less purple further from the light?

Usually its correlated but I reffrain from helping much in general but especially soil. Being newer grower and rarely did soil and soil theres lots of differences.

Wouldnt be suprised if there infact was somethin soil related going on but worth a thought. Sites getting quiet so any help is probably fine.
The only leave showing any signs of anything except maybe yellow on the tips 20240904_135404.jpg20240904_135415.jpg20240904_135418.jpg
 

medidedicated

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hmm.. Ok I guess its not but once it does from the light it will stay like that which isnt a real bad thing. It helps me figure out if I have my lights too bright and or close.

Like some said already they do look pretty good this far in. If the purple tapers where leafs or buds are shading it Id think thats light.

Not hard to do and somewhat normal when feeding them 600-900ppfd. It is soil though so idk. Just bored and keeping company. Many people having to rebump their thread.

It does pick up from time to time. Anyways good luck! They look great!
 

BongerChonger

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Also how do I lower soil ph want it near 6.5 and it's above 7 maybe even at 8
Try top dressing some peatmoss. Might bring it down a little bit after a couple waterings.
I wouldn't go throwing a bunch of stuff at it trying to bring it down, will do more harm than good.
You can get away with 7.5 more important is your input pH.
Nah I have a soil multimeter or wtv my soil ph is between 7 and 8
I have a ppm and ec meter on the way
Half strength nutes, it's probably buildup.
EC meter will be some help, I think you'll find EC in the pot high, but soon see.
How often do you water/feed?
 

desplegado

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Try top dressing some peatmoss. Might bring it down a little bit after a couple waterings.
I wouldn't go throwing a bunch of stuff at it trying to bring it down, will do more harm than good.
You can get away with 7.5 more important is your input pH.

Half strength nutes, it's probably buildup.
EC meter will be some help, I think you'll find EC in the pot high, but soon see.
How often do you water/feed?
How much a couple pinchful or handful and just mix it with the top soil? I also already half dose my nutes so should I do that again?
 

desplegado

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Try top dressing some peatmoss. Might bring it down a little bit after a couple waterings.
I wouldn't go throwing a bunch of stuff at it trying to bring it down, will do more harm than good.
You can get away with 7.5 more important is your input pH.

Half strength nutes, it's probably buildup.
EC meter will be some help, I think you'll find EC in the pot high, but soon see.
How often do you water/feed?
And it says I can use this ph down I have in soil should I try that first since water isn't working or just do peatmoss?
 

Roy O'Bannon

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They look good. to me. Maybe kind of darker green.
There are some links in my sig that take you to a cannabis deficiency page.

My own recent experience with runoff was low ph Red in the gh drops kit. high runoff ec 2.8>
I fed half ec of my usual feed and now my plant has deficiency signs. Before I tried to help it after seeing my runoff numbers it looked fine.
I'm growing in a peat/bark and pearlite mix. Using GH 3 part with cal/mag and ro water.

My take away? Don't mess with it. We'll see how that works out.........
 

desplegado

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They look good. to me. Maybe kind of darker green.
There are some links in my sig that take you to a cannabis deficiency page.

My own recent experience with runoff was low ph Red in the gh drops kit. high runoff ec 2.8>
I fed half ec of my usual feed and now my plant has deficiency signs. Before I tried to help it after seeing my runoff numbers it looked fine.
I'm growing in a peat/bark and pearlite mix. Using GH 3 part with cal/mag and ro water.

My take away? Don't mess with it. We'll see how that works out.........
So just keep doing what I've been?
 

Roy O'Bannon

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No, that was my take away from my plant. I was hovering, second guessing, and made a change I didn't need to my feeding schedule and I can see the slight set back. All I did was fed half my normal strength 1 time.

Your plant looks like, if anything, P from npk is the one that stands out most on the deficiency links. Idk, I feed around 1.8 ec ph 6 going in.
I don't really check ec, I just use the tsp measurements. Like a lot of guys using smaller lights i half the recommendation per stage of growth.

If you want to learn to diagnose, take a look at the link in my sig and make up your own mind. Then go from there.
Advice is great, but you have to compare it to your situation and see if it really applies.

Environment is very important, vpd in range, light height and leaf temp to air temp diff. 5 degree f btw.
The leaf is basically the wet bulb in this scenario. But lights too low can make that too high. Or too far away not enough temp diff.

You will get a feel for vpd enough to notice the way outside plants are effected by it during different weather conditions.

Ac infinity controllers now have vpd stuff built in or you can get a free phone app. It just tells you what temps and RH are the most conducive to growing anything.
 

desplegado

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No, that was my take away from my plant. I was hovering, second guessing, and made a change I didn't need to my feeding schedule and I can see the slight set back. All I did was fed half my normal strength 1 time.

Your plant looks like, if anything, P from npk is the one that stands out most on the deficiency links. Idk, I feed around 1.8 ec ph 6 going in.
I don't really check ec, I just use the tsp measurements. Like a lot of guys using smaller lights i half the recommendation per stage of growth.

If you want to learn to diagnose, take a look at the link in my sig and make up your own mind. Then go from there.
Advice is great, but you have to compare it to your situation and see if it really applies.

Environment is very important, vpd in range, light height and leaf temp to air temp diff. 5 degree f btw.
The leaf is basically the wet bulb in this scenario. But lights too low can make that too high. Or too far away not enough temp diff.

You will get a feel for vpd enough to notice the way outside plants are effected by it during different weather conditions.

Ac infinity controllers now have vpd stuff built in or you can get a free phone app. It just tells you what temps and RH are the most conducive to growing anything.
I've been seeing it alot I have a tent that is controlled and 1 that isn't the worst one is the homade tent
 

BongerChonger

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water isn't working or just do peatmoss?
Water won't work, soil's buffered. You need something like sulphur. That's why I suggest peatmoss.
I don't suggest using straight sulphur, or anything else like that.
Though some peatmoss won't hurt and might bring the pH down some.
And it says I can use this ph down I have in soil should I try that first
No, do not do that.
That's not how it's supposed to be used.
Keep your water and nutrient solution in the right range.
How much a couple pinchful or handful and just mix it with the top soil? I also already half dose my nutes so should I do that again?
Inch or two layer on the surface. Water it in well. Plain water once will be ok.
If there's a bit of nutrient buildup, plain water should help.
I'm of the do mostly nothing approach.
At least until you get your EC meter. Even then, I wouldn't necessarily change anything.
I think easy does it.
 

7CardBud

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Best thing to pH down living soil is elemental sulphur. Sulphur is non antagonistic with other nutrients, plus it is a terp booster. Top dress a few spoonfuls then check runoff in a week. It works slowly as microbes break it down.
 

desplegado

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Water won't work, soil's buffered. You need something like sulphur. That's why I suggest peatmoss.
I don't suggest using straight sulphur, or anything else like that.
Though some peatmoss won't hurt and might bring the pH down some.

No, do not do that.
That's not how it's supposed to be used.
Keep your water and nutrient solution in the right range.

Inch or two layer on the surface. Water it in well. Plain water once will be ok.
If there's a bit of nutrient buildup, plain water should help.
I'm of the do mostly nothing approach.
At least until you get your EC meter. Even then, I wouldn't necessarily change anything.
I think easy does it.
Appreciate the help I have a ec and ppm meter otw but I think it's gonna be late js left LA and was supposed to be here tomorrow
 

Mumbeltypeg

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Plants look good mate, don’t mess with it too much. your humidity is a little low and the plant will transpire faster; eating through its nutes a bit quicker. Bump humidity up to 65ish, make sure your temps aren’t dropping too much overnight and upgrade your light when you can afford it.
Well done, they look good.
 

desplegado

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Plants look good mate, don’t mess with it too much. your humidity is a little low and the plant will transpire faster; eating through its nutes a bit quicker. Bump humidity up to 65ish, make sure your temps aren’t dropping too much overnight and upgrade your light when you can afford it.
Well done, they look good.
Shit I'm not even worried about humidity fr it's hard it's in a homade tent with no humidifier and only enough room for 1 or 2 thing of water only bring it up to ab 50 my other plants have almost the same in rh and aren't doing the same thing
Im just more worried ab the red stems
 

Mumbeltypeg

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Shit I'm not even worried about humidity fr it's hard it's in a homade tent with no humidifier and only enough room for 1 or 2 thing of water only bring it up to ab 50 my other plants have almost the same in rh and aren't doing the same thing
Im just more worried ab the red stems
The stems aren’t an issue.. you could hang a wet towel in there to bump humidity on the cheap.. it’s one of your important fundamental parameters and that thing is pulling more nutes than it needs too, hence the slightly darker green leaves and beginnings of tip burn.. but all in all I’d say they look good for a 100w light. :eyesmoke:
 
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