What is the moon's light equivalent?

Dutchmast3r

Dutchmast3r

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i was wonderin the same thing because in the morning before my lights come on at 10am..theres a little sunlight tht comes threw the curtains..i cant see the plants but i can see the room ya know? wonderin if tht was ok its only for about 2-3 hours in the morning.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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racerboy71 said:
idk, i get into this one a lot when i always read people saying that light leaks cause hermies, and i point them to outdoors and the moon light like the op is talking about..
obviously, large amounts of light during lights out are going to have a huge affect on flowering.. someone mentioned street lights and half a plant flowering and half not because of street lights.. but i have yet to encounter a hermie with smaller amounts of light in flower..
i grow in a small closet set up and i tend to leave the door open all of the time to keep temps down.. i usually run the lights at night to keep the temps down, so that means for me lights out are during the day hours.. i'm not saying i get huge amounts of light in my grow, but it sure as shit isn't pitch black either, that's for sure..
i have heard people saying that the small led on some grow equipment is enough to make a plant hermie, and i say bs, as my power chord is lite and i've been using the same one for about 4 years or so now, and not one hermie has been seen.. i grow anything from regular seeds to fem's as well..
i'd love to know exactly how much light is required to create problems, but ime, smaller amounts of light will not hurt nor interrupt flowering ime..
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I dont think its necessarily related to the intensity of the light, more the duration of exposure (Id imagine also that they do corrolate tho). The question Id ask is how long is long enough to interrupt the plant producing florigen.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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23watts of light is needed to create a physical change. i think its something like 600 lum. harrekin is right we can do better than nature but plants are designed around natures so the goal would really be to replicate the optimal environments encountered in nature.

as for the moon or complete darkness, this is not required to flower a plant just preferable and will increase yeild and shorten flowering time. 9x out of 10 a light leak did not cause your hermies.

you can flower under 24 hour light with photoperiod plants. a red spectrum night and a blue spectrum night have very different effects, blue spectrum nights allow flowering. under the T5 light i have i had my plant on 12 hours full spectrum lighting and 12 hours deep blue lighting(420nm t5ho and 460nm t5ho coralife) simply because i was waiting on a order of light bulbs, and 2 of my mother began to flower. now i back to a red spectrum night period and flowers are going away and they are still getting their rest.

UV and IR/ far red have very interesting effects too such as using IR at lights on and lights off(ex. HPS and MH lights HPS only for first hour)
 
Sean Tom

Sean Tom

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racerboy71 said:
idk, i get into this one a lot when i always read people saying that light leaks cause hermies, and i point them to outdoors and the moon light like the op is talking about..
obviously, large amounts of light during lights out are going to have a huge affect on flowering.. someone mentioned street lights and half a plant flowering and half not because of street lights.. but i have yet to encounter a hermie with smaller amounts of light in flower..
i grow in a small closet set up and i tend to leave the door open all of the time to keep temps down.. i usually run the lights at night to keep the temps down, so that means for me lights out are during the day hours.. i'm not saying i get huge amounts of light in my grow, but it sure as shit isn't pitch black either, that's for sure..
i have heard people saying that the small led on some grow equipment is enough to make a plant hermie, and i say bs, as my power chord is lite and i've been using the same one for about 4 years or so now, and not one hermie has been seen.. i grow anything from regular seeds to fem's as well..
i'd love to know exactly how much light is required to create problems, but ime, smaller amounts of light will not hurt nor interrupt flowering ime..
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i totally agree. i am on my fourth grow and has not always been pitch black and i have yet to find a hermie. of course pitch black is ideal however we do the best we can and the plants do too. a little light here and there has never hermed me out.
 
Sean Tom

Sean Tom

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Dutchmast3r said:
i was wonderin the same thing because in the morning before my lights come on at 10am..theres a little sunlight tht comes threw the curtains..i cant see the plants but i can see the room ya know? wonderin if tht was ok its only for about 2-3 hours in the morning.
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im not sure how much light you are receiving but if you tack a black sheet( or even just any color) over the curtain it should make a huge difference.
 
elduece

elduece

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Sean Tom said:
Ok so i know that it is always key to have complete darkness during the flowering stage. However, i was pondering on outside grows and how the moon is present when the sun goes down. So my question is can the plants actually have minor amounts of light during the dark hours or no and if so how much light is too much.
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I was challenged by my h.s. science instructor to grow something using only moonlight. I chose tomato plants. #1 & #2 grew in regular hours and #3 & #4 hours before dawn starting 4:30pm as control tests and #5 & #6 started its light cycle at 8 pm during Solano county, CA zone. In short, they did grow albeit not even a flower for the last four subjects by summer's end. I also estimated the that moonlight is 1/300000th of the sun intensity depending on moon phase and it's distance using telescope, camera and flashlight.
 
Dislexicmidget2021

Dislexicmidget2021

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Sean Tom said:
Ok so i know that it is always key to have complete darkness during the flowering stage. However, i was pondering on outside grows and how the moon is present when the sun goes down. So my question is can the plants actually have minor amounts of light during the dark hours or no and if so how much light is too much.
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Moonlight cant effect the plant in any negative way,even on a full moon,Just remember the moonlight is only a basic mono-toned wavelength of light being reflected from the moons surface and that the plant MJ wont be disturbed by it.
 
Sean Tom

Sean Tom

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elduece said:
I was challenged by my h.s. science instructor to grow something using only moonlight. I chose tomato plants. #1 & #2 grew in regular hours and #3 & #4 hours before dawn starting 4:30pm as control tests and #5 & #6 started its light cycle at 8 pm during Solano county, CA zone. In short, they did grow albeit not even a flower for the last four subjects by summer's end. I also estimated the that moonlight is 1/300000th of the sun intensity depending on moon phase and it's distance using telescope, camera and flashlight.
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that sounds like an interesting project. so in comparison to weed that is y moonlight will allow flowering. i love a post like this +rep u my friend
 
Sean Tom

Sean Tom

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Dislexicmidget2021 said:
Moonlight cant effect the plant in any negative way,even on a full moon,Just remember the moonlight is only a basic mono-toned wavelength of light being reflected from the moons surface and that the plant MJ wont be disturbed by it.
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thank you much. so it must not be in the plants needed light spectrum
 
bombasticson

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Nice man I figured this one out, there can be a little light just not alot cuz my first grows were not light proof and the cam out fine.
 
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