what is this on my leaves? nuts?

hi alot of the leaves on these plants look like this, they are also looking unhealthy in general, like they are not lush at all.

is this from too much or too little of something? these are outdoors and have been given bone meal, bath salts, super thrive (once), and been sprayed multiple times with a mixture of dish soap and lemon to keep away bugs which are still coming.

Did it start from the bottom and move to the top?
Or did the deficiency start at new growths?
Looking alot like Magnesium

Nice Ol Bud said:

Did it start from the bottom and move to the top?
Or did the deficiency start at new growths?
Looking alot like Magnesium

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i think it just spread all over the plant, its not really on the very new growth yet.

do you think it could be from too much magnesium because this only happened after i added the absenth salts (the salts give magnesium right?)

looks like a chemical burn

true, and what could be the reason for the leaves looking so dull

and why is the fresh growth curling downwards in the second photo?

Not trying to be a dick - especially since I don't know much about growing outdoors - but why are you giving your plants bath salts? You want them to turn into zombies and eat peoples faces off? Just give them some good ole fertilizer - preferably from a reputable manufacturer like Botanicare, Fox Farm, Advanced Nutrients, Humboldt, etc. Don't try to reinvent the wheel - these companies make millions upon millions of dollars anually because they make quality products that work. I would cut everything out except maybe the lemon water to repel insects. See how the plants respond.

MDEVA said:

Not trying to be a dick - especially since I don't know much about growing outdoors - but why are you giving your plants bath salts? You want them to turn into zombies and eat peoples faces off? Just give them some good ole fertilizer - preferably from a reputable manufacturer like Botanicare, Fox Farm, Advanced Nutrients, Humboldt, etc. Don't try to reinvent the wheel - these companies make millions upon millions of dollars anually because they make quality products that work. I would cut everything out except maybe the lemon water to repel insects. See how the plants respond.

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i dont get how you relate giving the plants a natural source of magnesium with creating an apocalyptic plant? any corporation makes money by making people think that there way is the only way when it really isnt. Im no pro either, im only listening to the recommendations of others. I may have given them an excessive amount of salts so I am trying to over water a bit in hopes that it will drain out.

I appreciate the input thanks

I was just messing around about the bath-salts thing buddy... it's the first thing that came to mind when I seen that's what you were giving your plants. In all seriousness though, I really would go with just plain Ph Balanced water for a while, and then start slowly adding back the products you were using (1 at a time) until you find out which product created the issue. Hope they bounce back man. And you're absolutely right - big name fertilizers aren't always the way to go. I thought I read that you were a beginner (like me) though, so my advice would be to start with the fertilizers where you can just read a feeding schedule so you can get past the trial & error phase of growing a little bit sooner. Once you're better at reading the plants to see what they need (or don't need) THEN maybe try your hand at supplementing with bath salts & the like. Just my opinion though - I know everyone does it their own way.