What is your faith and beliefs? What do you trust? Whats your spirituality? O.M.G.

i do not believe in any god or religion ( i prefer to refer to it as population control and fairy tales). i do not believe in ghosts, spirits, or souls. i believe in evolution, life, death, and decomposition. nothing more. i cant believe how many adults around me (who are supposedly intelligent) follow and spread the disgustingness and hipocrisy that is christianity. and jesus was a real guy, not a god, just a really smart con artist or a crazy fuck that really thought he was god. by the way, i grew up in christian church and i chose to go to a private catholic university, so i am not uneducated at all in the subject. you god believers are nuts though.

retrofuzz said:

Did you give it up?

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I dont know what happened to it actually......

NietzscheKeen said:

Why am I always late to the party?

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Didja at least bring superior party supplies? (Something that ultimately makes us stronger?) cn

GreenSummit said:

i do not believe in any god or religion ( i prefer to refer to it as population control and fairy tales). i do not believe in ghosts, spirits, or souls. i believe in evolution, life, death, and decomposition. nothing more. i cant believe how many adults around me (who are supposedly intelligent) follow and spread the disgustingness and hipocrisy that is christianity. and jesus was a real guy, not a god, just a really smart con artist or a crazy fuck that really thought he was god. by the way, i grew up in christian church and i chose to go to a private catholic university, so i am not uneducated at all in the subject. you god believers are nuts though.

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Why would you choose to go the a private catholic university? I had no idea such things existed, sounds like a crazy place lol

burgertime2010 said:

It is frustrating for me to see proof required for such things as spirit, so much rides on that becoming the only way. It indicates a disconnect from humanity, not because of the spirit, but the quantum science where logic fails and perception is not effective.

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Plainly questions of spirit are beyond science, which is strictly confined to the reproducible material plane.

However i see value in still applying some scientific principles to the study of spirit, such as an emphasis on test, on validation. We humans have a serious credulity problem (imo), and it would be very nice to develop some way to separate the wheat from the chaff, the sheep from the goats, and Mary Sue from the Maidenform. cn

burgertime2010 said:

As a hard-lined skeptic I don't see the allure for you here. Are you interested in Spirituality at all?

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I am keenly, breathlessly interested to know if there is any aspect of spirituality that transcends/exceeds the irredeemably subjective. So far I have not found it, but i do not pretend that the case is closed. cn

cannabineer said:

I am keenly, breathlessly interested to know if there is any aspect of spirituality that transcends/exceeds the irredeemably subjective. So far I have not found it, but i do not pretend that the case is closed. cn

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I am as well. I practice Qi-gong, related to Tai-chi, and in the 8 person class there is a shared experience, subjectivity is always going to be a factor in practice.

burgertime2010 said:

I feel you have misunderstood my post in that the 1st 1/2 is reply and about the son of Jesus.

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Whos the son of Jesus?

(I didnt know Jesus had a son unless you believe in the Da Vinci Code!)

~PEACE~

I think it's funny how bent you are on converting people to your philosophy mr durden, just like the "christians" you bash.
I understand your argument, it's a good one, but you're not omniscient yourself and don't know everything about the universe either.

Nevaeh420 said:

Whos the son of Jesus? (I didnt know Jesus had a son unless you believe in the Da Vinci Code!) ~PEACE~

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Your nephew???

burgertime2010 said:

Your nephew???

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I actually believe that I am Christ- the Son of God!

I talk all about it in the link below!

https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/600992-i-found-like-dozen-videos.html

I talk all about it in the link above!

But noone believes Me so I stand alone!








~PEACE~

What a coincidence...I need a prostitute and a healing. I will trade you frankinsense for a miracle......you need a publicist.

You have a firm grasp on what i mean by test. cn

skuba said:

I think it's funny how bent you are on converting people to your philosophy mr durden, just like the "christians" you bash.
I understand your argument, it's a good one, but you're not omniscient yourself and don't know everything about the universe either.

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What do you think is the best way to learn about everything in the universe? Promoting unsupportable speculation coupled with superstition or a skeptical and critical examination of the data and an honest appraisal based on the application of logic and reason?
How is applying critical thought and skepticism to the random claims of online posters in any way attempts at converting people? I find it amusing that when people are confronted and unable to give rational reasons for their beliefs, they launch into attack mode and accuse those with reasonable skepticism of proselytizing.

cannabineer said:

You have a firm grasp on what i mean by test. cn

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test what?

skuba said:

I think it's funny how bent you are on converting people to your philosophy mr durden, just like the "christians" you bash.
I understand your argument, it's a good one, but you're not omniscient yourself and don't know everything about the universe either.

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I'm simply a rational skeptic. In my estimation, this view let's one experience more of the wonder, joy and knowledge of reality than any other viewpoint. I love my transcendent experiences and I'm fortunate enough to have them happen frequently through my music, raising my son, illuminating conversations with my best friends, reading about the latest scientific breakthroughs, etc.. These experiences are much more 'spiritual' than any I've ever had via religion, or anything supernatural. I love science. It is the best tool we have from separating the true wonder of the universe from the bullshit smoke and mirrors that lacks empirical evidence and people simply like to believe. I am nothing special, and we as a species are certainly not omniscient. We're just beginning to understand the mysteries of this universe, and we've come a long way in a short time because of the scientific method. There may be forces, dimensions and wonders yet to discover and that our current technology is insufficient to detect, but we will only get there using science. Trying to get to knowledge about reality through whims, wishes, feelings, or any other subjective means, is a random and roundabout method that is very inefficient. Any knowledge concerning reality obtained by these means is likely by accident. Just because science doesn't yet have all the answers, there's no reason to believe any other method does. That's the point, there are some things that none of us knows. Not even those that pretend to...

"What is your faith and beliefs? What do you trust? Whats your spirituality?"

Try to be a good person. Be nice, and respectful... but do not allow myself to be taken advantage of, do not allow others to, and stick up for myself and for other human animals when the opportunity presents itself. Do my best not to hurt anyone emotionally or physically, be a good influence on other people.

To be honest with myself, is my main goal in life, even though i know sometimes i am not honest with other people. At least i don't have to lie to myself, i can tell myself the truth about anything and everything, and i have to live with the consequences of my decisions, be it good or bad... i get to make them, and i have to live with them. We all do things that we deem are either good, or bad, we do them and we decide. It's personal, just as most everything in our lives are. Because in the end, we all have to live with ourselves, and we must live with the choices we make.

I believe in me, in my good nature, i believe that my life is mine to create and that my life is equally based off of the decisions i make. I could do this, go there, do that, go here... every choice will have a different outcome, and if i don't try i know exactly what i will be doing... which is why i try my best to do things differently and go places i have never been before more than just do the same thing every day, that's what gives my life meaning... different experiences, different people, different knowledge.

To have meaningful relationships with many, many awesome people i have met in my life, and to keep those relationships going, that is what gives my life meaning. My family, my friends, and the time spent with each other... nothing can rival it, nothing can beat it...

I hope that answers your question....

burgertime2010 said:

What a coincidence...I need a prostitute and a healing. I will trade you frankinsense for a miracle......you need a publicist.

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I'm sorry to let you down buddy, heres why.

I'm not a pimp so I dont have any prostitutes.

I'm not a shaman so I cant heal.

And I'm not a miracle worker so I dont perform miracles.

But I do have a great story and its in that link.

You are correct too, I do need a publicist! But where do I find one?

~PEACE~

Nevaeh420 said:

I'm sorry to let you down buddy, heres why. I'm not a pimp so I dont have any prostitutes. I'm not a shaman so I cant heal. And I'm not a miracle worker so I dont perform miracles. But I do have a great story and its in that link. You are correct too, I do need a publicist! But where do I find one? ~PEACE~

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Jesus performed miracles, consorted with prostitutes, healed the sick and had an army of publicists. Have you been as Jesus was? selfless, charitable, poor. I am not interested in what links you have but if you are going to beleive this about yourself than act the part. You may have schizophrenia or delusional psychosis in it's onset......I am serious. Whatever......be the light of peoples day or hit the doctor and buzz off. Watch out for Romans.

burgertime2010 said:

Jesus performed miracles, consorted with prostitutes, healed the sick and had an army of publicists. Have you been as Jesus was? selfless, charitable, poor. I am not interested in what links you have but if you are going to beleive this about yourself than act the part. You may have schizophrenia or delusional psychosis in it's onset......I am serious. Whatever......be the light of peoples day or hit the doctor and buzz off. Watch out for Romans.

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I'm not Jesus nor do I want to be (like) Him, but yes I am selfless, charitable and poor to the best of My abilities but noone is perfect.

I dont have scizophrenia because I dont hear voices, but I must be a little delusional to believe that I AM Christ. But I'm still a wonderful person.

Jesus ALLEGEDLY performed mircacles and noone can prove that He actually did them unless you believe the Bible.

I'm not going to act any part either, why should I be someone who I am not? If people dont like Me for Me than I dont care.

~PEACE~