What schedules do you use for Fox Farms lineup? Help please! :)

silusbotwin

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So I'm currently growing a few plants in Fox Farms Ocean Forest soil (Links to the journal in my signature) and I think it might be about time to start feeding. I'm sort of confused about a few things though. This is my first time with Fox Farms nutes and I'm really relying on success for this crop so any help or advice would be GREATLY appreciated.

I have Grow Big, Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom. I was hoping a few of you fine people could help me by elaborating on what FF schedule has worked for you. If you could just fill out the basic template below, I will love you forever, and be indebted to you :P I'm trying to get as many schedules as I can to review and get and idea of what I should do. It really won't take you long at all. And if you don't feel like filling out my template below, could you please tell me what your experiences and schedules were with FF nutes? Any links I might be interested in reading? Mind stopping by my thread and giving me some criticism?

And I know Fox Farms has a feeding schedule available from their website but I figured it would be better for all of us if we could get the general consesus in regards to it's use for CANNABIS instead of flowers and veggies.

If you do not wish to help, that is fine but please keep the arguing and flaming out of this thread.

When using pure Ocean Forest soil as a medium:

VEG
Week 1:
Week 2:
Week 3:
Week 4:

FLOWER
Week 1:
Week 2:
Week 3:
Week 4:
Week 5:
Week 6:
Week 7:
Week 8:
 

2layz2p

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you don't mention strains?? if I gave my white widow the same feeding as Plum crazy purple the white widow would shit her self...just sayin
 

smokey mcsmokester

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My chrystal downright hates nutes... I have them in ff oc with the same nutes as you... I gave them a small dose at 2 1/2 weeks into veg and fried them good.... Now im going into week 5 with no nutes and there loving just the soil....Nutes are way over rated man...More of a gimmick than anything.... Iv'e learned my lesson...I wouldn't give them any until there at least 3 1/2 weeks into veg and then only 1 1/2 teaspn of grow big and a tblspn of big bloom....
 

silusbotwin

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you don't mention strains?? if I gave my white widow the same feeding as Plum crazy purple the white widow would shit her self...just sayin
What do you do for your Widow? Is it Greenhouse Widow? Not sure what you mean by shit herself. As in burn from feeding or shit herself with huge resin production?

My chrystal downright hates nutes... I have them in ff oc with the same nutes as you... I gave them a small dose at 2 1/2 weeks into veg and fried them good.... Now im going into week 5 with no nutes and there loving just the soil....Nutes are way over rated man...More of a gimmick than anything.... Iv'e learned my lesson...I wouldn't give them any until there at least 3 1/2 weeks into veg and then only 1 1/2 teaspn of grow big and a tblspn of big bloom....
I have already been feeding for about 8 days or so. They have had 2 feedings every other watering and only 4 waterings total since. They seem to have enjoyed it pretty well. First feeding was at abut 14 days and I used 1/4 strength GB and 1/4 strength BB. The second feeding was 1/3 strength of each. It's been 4 days since their last feeding and they still haven't shown any signs of over fert. Do you think I would see signs by now if they were over nuted?
 

Total Head

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first off, i would ditch the expectation of "planning" a schedule. all strains and even phenos of strains are different as to what they can handle or require.

i no longer use ff nutes but here are some things to keep in mind though:

the big bloom will never burn anything over a week old, notice the npk and feeding reccomendations for big bloom as opposed to the other two. there's no need to go 1/4 strength for big bloom ONLY. go easy on the other two at first.

the schedule is a guideline only. feed based on the plant itself, not a schedule.

i used to start the grow formula when i would start to see a hint of lightening of leaves. sometimes this would be two weeks from seed, other times it would take a month before i was at that point, depends on the plant.

if you have been feeding for 8 days, you would most likely (not definately) know by now if you had overdone it.

the only "schedule" i followed was water, feed, water, feed, repeat.

water=big bloom
feed=grow big or tiger bloom

i never mixed the big bloom with the other stuff, but some people do. it just seems to me if they were meant to be fed together they would be in the same bottle to begin with. what's the point of having the consumer mix the nutes together? it's either to gouge the consumer or because they were meant to be fed seperately. honestly from looking at the feed chart i couldn't figure out which so i did my own thing.

edit: i used FFOF as a medium as well, in case you were wondering. i amended mine with a bit of extra perlite, lime and sometimes worm castings if i had them on hand.
 

silusbotwin

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first off, i would ditch the expectation of "planning" a schedule. all strains and even phenos of strains are different as to what they can handle or require.

i no longer use ff nutes but here are some things to keep in mind though:

the big bloom will never burn anything over a week old, notice the npk and feeding reccomendations for big bloom as opposed to the other two. there's no need to go 1/4 strength for big bloom ONLY. go easy on the other two at first.

the schedule is a guideline only. feed based on the plant itself, not a schedule.

i used to start the grow formula when i would start to see a hint of lightening of leaves. sometimes this would be two weeks from seed, other times it would take a month before i was at that point, depends on the plant.

if you have been feeding for 8 days, you would most likely (not definately) know by now if you had overdone it.

the only "schedule" i followed was water, feed, water, feed, repeat.

water=big bloom
feed=grow big or tiger bloom

i never mixed the big bloom with the other stuff, but some people do. it just seems to me if they were meant to be fed together they would be in the same bottle to begin with. what's the point of having the consumer mix the nutes together? it's either to gouge the consumer or because they were meant to be fed seperately. honestly from looking at the feed chart i couldn't figure out which so i did my own thing.

edit: i used FFOF as a medium as well, in case you were wondering. i amended mine with a bit of extra perlite, lime and sometimes worm castings if i had them on hand.
Brilliant advice! I appreciate your feed back fellas and or ladies :) I have noticed the very bottom single-bladed leaves have yellowed and the bottom most fan leaves are yellowing a tiny bit as well. I think I might just try to emulate what you have done. I've heard that about the Big Bloom before that it's virtually impossible to over-feed with BB. In regards to mixing them together, I think they come in separate bottles due to the fact that mixing some nutes together without diluting them in water first causes chemical reactions that could result in nute lock. Don't take it as fact, I just read it in an article somewhere I can't remember the source so I can't even say whether it was a reliable one.

So if I understand you correctly, it's perfectly fine to go full strength with the BB once I see yellowing and stick to the gradual titration of TB/GB by raising the dose by a fraction every week or so until full strength has been reached? Any advice as to what strengths of TB/GB to use and how often to raise the strength?

Thanks again for the great advice man. I appreciate it a ton :)
 

Total Head

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Brilliant advice! I appreciate your feed back fellas and or ladies :) I have noticed the very bottom single-bladed leaves have yellowed and the bottom most fan leaves are yellowing a tiny bit as well. I think I might just try to emulate what you have done. I've heard that about the Big Bloom before that it's virtually impossible to over-feed with BB. In regards to mixing them together, I think they come in separate bottles due to the fact that mixing some nutes together without diluting them in water first causes chemical reactions that could result in nute lock. Don't take it as fact, I just read it in an article somewhere I can't remember the source so I can't even say whether it was a reliable one.

So if I understand you correctly, it's perfectly fine to go full strength with the BB once I see yellowing and stick to the gradual titration of TB/GB by raising the dose by a fraction every week or so until full strength has been reached? Any advice as to what strengths of TB/GB to use and how often to raise the strength?

Thanks again for the great advice man. I appreciate it a ton :)
i've always found it odd that FF sells the trio in identical sized bottles. the big bloom only lasted 2 small grows if i was lucky but the other stuff would last a year. if you have 3 leaf sets and the plant is well established a full dose of big bloom is fine. i settled on 3 tablespoons/gallon for the simple fact that i was sick of going through the stuff so quick.

as far as the other stuff, at the time i was vegging for a shorter time (4 weeks max, usually 3) i never really got the chance to graduate the grow formula because the plants only got about 3 doses total before i flipped the lights, and the plants all reacted differently. i started the tiger bloom at half dose (make sure you ph the stuff it comes out of the bottle below 5). there were a few plants that never got to the full dose because it just wasn't needed. there were a few that i underfed, and a few that i burned. that's what i get for running 4 strains at once. sometimes it took a few rounds before i got a strain right.

the advice that i'm glad i followed (and that i follow with my new nutes) is to start off small, and step it up gradually until you see the first signs of burn, then dial it back just a hair. that's the plant's sweet spot for dosage. i use a ppm meter now from time to time. it's NOT needed at all for a soil grow but it's a good way to get to know my solution (i dump extra stuff in there sometimes) and at the time of the purchase i had money burning a hole in my pocket. i was surprised how much the ppm changed with minor adjustments.

so basically, if the last dose you gave it didn't burn it, step it up just a hair on the next feed and see if that burns, and so on until you find the dose that burns. some plants are just ravenous.
 
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