What size net for scrog?
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TintEastwood
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I like the 3.5 for top net.
6in for the bottom can work well.
Both of these are 3.5. 2 plants
6in for the bottom can work well.
Both of these are 3.5. 2 plants
coreywebster
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3.5.
6 is pointless for a proper scrog net. Point is to fill each hole with a bud site, the more holes the better until you get too small and its difficult.
6 is pointless for a proper scrog net. Point is to fill each hole with a bud site, the more holes the better until you get too small and its difficult.
Thundercat
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Yep use the 3.5. If you do the SCROG correctly you will only need one screen. Thats the point of a scrog, grow the plant to fit your screen perfectly. You want the screen to be about 12-14 inches above your pot, and you want to top the plant a few times, and then weave it under your screen and keep it under the screen until it has flowers about to form. In the end you will have a bud site in every square of the screen and the canopy will be nice and even just above the screen level.
No offense meant Tinteastwoods grow looks beautiful, but I would not consider it a scrog. Those are just trellis nets placed onto a bushy plant for support.
No offense meant Tinteastwoods grow looks beautiful, but I would not consider it a scrog. Those are just trellis nets placed onto a bushy plant for support.
TintEastwood
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Dang. I did try. Hopefully I'll do better with experience, and help from my co-growers here.
These bishes are beastly.
Strain: Darlins Net Dansbuds Pheno
These bishes are beastly.
Strain: Darlins Net Dansbuds Pheno
Looks pretty sweet to me
TintEastwood
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Here's a wonky scrog!! 
(the MK Ultra was killa smoke)
(the MK Ultra was killa smoke)
Thundercat
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Tinteastwood has beautiful plants and buds, please don't take what I said negatively. It really wasn't meant as an insult. From these pictures I can see you did exactly what I expected. You vegged a plant up, and then spread it out.
How high is that screen above the top of the pots? By putting the screen down closer to the top of the pots, and spreading the plant as it grows, it will create more tops and a more consistant canopy. You just keep tucking the tops and spreading the plant out horizontally. If any are in a weird spot and can't be tucked, just top it, and the plant will keep spreading out the other branches. Growing the plant right into the screen will also increase the amount of support the plant gets allowing it to put more weight into the buds.
I've only ran a couple scrogs, but I researched them a ton over the last 10 years because they are awesome
. Seems like the best results come from a really good sturdy screen too. I've got a metal 3x3 grid I use when I want to scrog, the plants can't move it around, and it gives them total support. I've seen guys use construction netting because it is rather sturdy for good support. I saw some perfect horticultural fencing at lowes the other day that was fairly thin wire with a coating.
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TintEastwood
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Absolutely no offense taken. You are very kind to help a brother out.
On this run. Timing sucked. I was forced to veg them for almost 3 months with no space to do much LST in prep for flower. Heavily topped.
Getting woody. I was scared I would break or split the bishes by getting too aggressive with initial netting.
On this run. Timing sucked. I was forced to veg them for almost 3 months with no space to do much LST in prep for flower. Heavily topped.
Getting woody. I was scared I would break or split the bishes by getting too aggressive with initial netting.
Thundercat
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The whole goal of scrog is canopy control .
Looks like this is one plant spread out INTO the screen.
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Looks like this is one plant spread out INTO the screen.
TintEastwood
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Beautiful!The whole goal of scrog is canopy control
Looks like this is one plant spread out INTO the screen.
Looks as perfect as my wifes cross stitching! Lol
Cool. I like my nets banjo string tight.
Thundercat
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Those aren't mine FYI, just pulled good examples off goggle.
Ideally next time if you did that 3 month veg with the screen in place already you would have gotten the full scrog effect. You might have even been able to cut the veg time down and still filled the screen. It also eliminates trying to bend woody stems. They get woody while they are already woven into the scrog, which adds to the support of the whole structure.
friedguy
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Plants look great.
Scrogging can be done many ways. Some top a lot to create many branches and fill the screen with those, some top once or twice to use a few man branches and some don't top at all. The less you top the faster the growth and the more you have to grow your plant horizontally under the screen to fill it.
Scrogging can be done many ways. Some top a lot to create many branches and fill the screen with those, some top once or twice to use a few man branches and some don't top at all. The less you top the faster the growth and the more you have to grow your plant horizontally under the screen to fill it.
thanks for all the replies i didn't know they came in different size holes until i actually looked so i only assumed they were all the same except for the size of the actual netting. i also did not do ANY research on how to scrog.
i had a few questions though of course i will be doing research on the subject but wanted opinions as well.
1. will a net fit tightly if i don't build an actual frame and just connect the corners and stretch the net to all 4 corner posts or is a frame mandatory? i do NOT have a car ( it got totaled a few months ago in an accident ) so i have no way of actually getting PVC piping to build a frame.
2. for someone inexperienced with scrogging would you suggest buying 2 nets or just 1? i will be buying online again since i have no car and most likely the nets online are likely cheaper my plant is still fairly small so by the time it gets here it will be closer to being able to actually toss the net on.
3. do you just top it multiples times or do you top and LST as well? i always assumed you top and LST to get the starting shape but like i said i did NO research thus far if you are just topping multiple times how would i go about that? i would just be topping the main branches right? also how often should i be topping those main branches like i usually will top only once per grow. would i just top it once then let it grow out a bit then top again just like how you normally top or is there a different way of doing it?
i had a few questions though of course i will be doing research on the subject but wanted opinions as well.
1. will a net fit tightly if i don't build an actual frame and just connect the corners and stretch the net to all 4 corner posts or is a frame mandatory? i do NOT have a car ( it got totaled a few months ago in an accident ) so i have no way of actually getting PVC piping to build a frame.
2. for someone inexperienced with scrogging would you suggest buying 2 nets or just 1? i will be buying online again since i have no car and most likely the nets online are likely cheaper my plant is still fairly small so by the time it gets here it will be closer to being able to actually toss the net on.
3. do you just top it multiples times or do you top and LST as well? i always assumed you top and LST to get the starting shape but like i said i did NO research thus far if you are just topping multiple times how would i go about that? i would just be topping the main branches right? also how often should i be topping those main branches like i usually will top only once per grow. would i just top it once then let it grow out a bit then top again just like how you normally top or is there a different way of doing it?
JayBio420
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I will just add that I always used around 2” grids on my SCROGs. You want to have a tight web to crawl the branches out. I never did the two levels and never had too, but that comes with experience in timing your strain. You finish the stretch under the first and only grid, and as stretch ends you have full coverage and buds start growing directly above it.
You need to fasten down your screen. It will be pushed up.
You need one screen but two of you underestimate stretch.
No topping with SCROG, no point. You make growth lateral and all branches get similar growth hormones. Just bend and move branches into empty areas under the screen.
You need to fasten down your screen. It will be pushed up.
You need one screen but two of you underestimate stretch.
No topping with SCROG, no point. You make growth lateral and all branches get similar growth hormones. Just bend and move branches into empty areas under the screen.
I top to branch out more evenly usually 4 ways
JayBio420
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That’s the whole point of training in my opinion. You move them around and the growth SHOULD equalize among the shoots and balance out after awhile. I always hesitate to top anything unless there is a critical reason for it. One of the main benefits of Scrogging is height control, negates topping in many situations. If you have a stubborn leggy Sativa with main branch dominance, I can see it being a good tool.
i ended up topping before i read this lol. i think there is a way to get the net tight without a frame but i got to look how people do it. i mean it's a 4x4 tent i do plan to cut the original net to fit the 4x4.
how do you get the plant to branch out without topping i mean you just slap the net on, bend, and move it up as it starts to fill in the net? still didn't do research been enjoying my weekend XD
how do you get the plant to branch out without topping i mean you just slap the net on, bend, and move it up as it starts to fill in the net? still didn't do research been enjoying my weekend XD
JayBio420
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You got it man! Slam that net! From underneath you sort of pull the branches down and out of the net and then farther across the underneath. When your around 70-80% canopy cover, switch to flower and the final stretch phase completes your canopy. The flowers you can allow to pop above the screen, and it will help support them also. That’s why I never really agreed with wide net spacing, as it acts as a trellis or a tomato cage in a way. It supports your fruits.
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