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Brick Top

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Hey Bricktop you are a pretty smart guy so I wanna ask you something. I've heard that feminized seeds can still hermie, but isn't it possible to make that an extremely unlikely occurrence using the purest genetics and the best feminizing methods? Do you know much about whos feminized seeds are least likely to herm? Or what some of the most common rates of hermies among feminized seeds are?
On average feminized seeds are more prone to turning hermie but I do not know any statistics so I cannot give you a percentage or a so many out of one hundred or one thousand sort of figure.

There is, at least in nature, such a thing as a true female, a female plant that has absolutely no male genes in it. To test a female you veg it and then put it into flower, if I remember right for two weeks, and then back into veg for the same period of time and then back into flower ... if it does not hermie, it has no male genes and is a perfect candidate for feminized beans.

I don't know if many or if any breeders do that but even if they try I think finding a true 100% female nowadays would be almost impossible unless working with landrace strains. If you look at most modern crosses they have tons of different genetics in them from crosses that were crossed with other crosses that were crossed with a triple cross etc. and I would think that it would be extremely easy for some male genetics to have slipped in there somewhere along the line.

When I first started growing in 1972, and for some years after, a hermie was almost totally unheard of. You almost couldn't make one hermie, now does more than a day or two go by where we don't see a new thread about a hermie problem?

Check out the following strain ... picked totally at random and NOT because I am saying it has a hermie problem .. it is only used as an example of how many different strains and crosses etc. can go into a strain and how at some point along the line some female or females that were a bit heavy with male genetics might have slipped in that some number of crosses later can result in hermie problems.




Super Lemon Haze from Green House Seeds is known to be hermie prone ... check out what all is in it. Not as much as JTR but it is one that IS known to be hermie prone.




Check out Headband Kush. Again I am NOT saying it is hermie prone, and only using it as an example of how many varied types of genetics can be in a strain, even in one called a Kush that would tend to make many people think it would not be a major mixture and mostly be just an indica or two with maybe a tiny bit of sativa tossed in for spice.







When you have so many different crosses added up a bit of male can easily slip in somewhere.

Also sometimes it might depend on some of the original stains used. I never knew if it was from crossing them or if it was natural or what but many strains that have Thai strains in them somewhere do have hermie problems. How, when, where and why it started I could not guess but many crosses with Thai strains in them are more hermi prone than others. That might be coincidence and it might not be .. but that is how it is.


When it comes to whose feminized beans are less likely to hermie that is not something I can say with any certainty. It does seem that feminized seeds that are made using the Roedlization method tend to turn more than when made using colloidal silver, but that is only a casual observation and not something I can say is certain.

Basically what it comes down to is feminized seeds tend to turn more easily than regular seeds and you just have to be more cautious about ANY types of stresses. People normally blame a hermie on a light leak but in strains that are more prone to turning virtually any type of stress can be the cause, including a root-bound condition, using pots that are too small.

Using feminized seeds means you have to grow 'wearing kid gloves,' you have to do your best to create and maintain as optimal as possible of growing conditions and growing environment to avoid any and all stress. Not all feminized bean strains need such tender loving care but unless you are familiar with the strain taking extra precautions would not be an injudicious thing to do rather than just going about business as normal and hoping for the best.
 

jdizzle22

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Are feminized seeds really that much more likely to hermie than unfeminized female seeds from the same stock/breed?
 

Brick Top

New Member
Are feminized seeds really that much more likely to hermie than unfeminized female seeds from the same stock/breed?
They are more likely to hermie than regular beans but it is not by a really high percentage chance ... and it is also strain dependent too. Some strains are very prone and some are only slightly prone, but all are more prone to turn than regular beans even if only slightly more so.
 

tucker1

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thanks guy for all the input but all I am trying to do here is grow for my wife she has MS and I am allowed to grow 15 plants at the time so that's why I was willing to go feminized seedsI dont want to go any higher in plant count.Cause I drive a big truck and get drug tested which suckssssssssss and also have a cross border card that I cant afford to loose.So I take it that if I stay with strains that are not crossed the HERMIE'S are rare
 

Brick Top

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thanks guy for all the input but all I am trying to do here is grow for my wife she has MS and I am allowed to grow 15 plants at the time so that's why I was willing to go feminized seedsI dont want to go any higher in plant count.Cause I drive a big truck and get drug tested which suckssssssssss and also have a cross border card that I cant afford to loose.So I take it that if I stay with strains that are not crossed the HERMIE'S are rare

It's not like you have to be horrified about feminized seeds turning hermie, crosses or not, they are just more likely than regular beans to turn hermie and more so in the case of certain strains than others.

I don't know how much of a 'stash' you will be able to have at any one time legally or how much your wife will smoke but with being able to have 15 plants you should be able to use regular beans and have more than enough females to supply her needs.

If you have the space to keep mother plants my suggestion would be to start out with regular beans, of a few strains good for MS (check for what strains are best for MS on actual medical marijuana sites) and pick the best phenotype, or maybe two, from a couple different strains and then grow from clones.

Here is one site to start with to check for medical strains and you can Google Medical Marijuana Strains and dispensaries for more. http://www.medicalmarijuanastrains.com/strain-guide/

Something else to consider is being in a Med State and being legal you might just want to check the dispensaries in your area for the best strains you can find and if they sell clones, purchase clones to start with for your first crop and mothers and avoid seeds all together. That does not mean a hermie would be impossible if you stress it while growing it but it might still be your best option for starting out rather than trying to pick strains and from which breeders and starting with seeds.
 

tucker1

Member
Thanks Bricktop I find your info very informative and I like it thanks so much.KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
 

choop

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85* is getting to the high side, though many sativas peeps can run 90*+, but not at all bad if the air is moving well.

Love Jorge, but he is full of shit on many points of cultivation just in general, he is more a stoner then any sort of cultivation authority. Sorry to break it to you.:hump::joint::blsmoke:
i cant help but feel the same way with ya on this one.....
 

tucker1

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Here is some pics I took of my girls this morning they are 2 weeks in flowering,I see amazing stuff happening now I hope it just keep getting betterIMG_0228.jpgIMG_0233.jpgIMG_0230.jpgIMG_0226.jpg
 
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