bongtokinjuggalo
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nice links, they look nice. the 2nd one seems to extravagent for my desires
What You Earn vs What Your Paid?
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nice links, they look nice. the 2nd one seems to extravagent for my desires
Perfextionist420
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The people who run this country own all the land and natural resources already, our government was put in place to give us the illusion of freedom of choice, the system has failed and we ask ourselves what can we do? The sad truth is that with all this knowledge and seeing the world for what it really is there is nothing we can do, so we must accept the world for what it is and choose our own path that we believe to be correct. We cannot change the world only ourselves.
I like to imagine what those high brow people will do when it comes to push and shove. They have no idea how to fend for themselves without their Escalades and Talking road maps. But we will need htem as well when it all goes down, someone has to dig the ditches.
bongtokinjuggalo
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"it only takes a single voice to start a revolution"- Thorin
its seems your going w/ the "accept your percieved reality" theme
I am a human, and as such, I change my environment to suit mmy needs. if that means a revolution to better myself and the other 365 million poeple i share the air w/, so be it
UncleBuck
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actually, congress pays into their health care plans just like any working stiff would do. they do not get it for free.
and i'm sure that all of life's problems, as well as those within our health care system, can be addressed through a simple crackdown on "illegal crackheads with 10 kids". why hasn't anyone run for president on such a genius and well-thought out platform by now?
so according to you, i have a high school mentality and can not develop a true original thought?
that sounds like a mediocre insult to me.
while you're checking out how proenneke lived right her ein the U.S., you may want to look into the amish as well. they live relatively unfettered by the fed gub.
on a completely sober thought, I bought our land a few months ago and made sure that it would never be out of our family, with paying alot of taxes up front and deeding it in such a way it has to stay in the family. It isnt much just a few springs, a good size wooded part and some places for farming.
But you never quite understand how many people and agencies have their hand in your pocket until you go and buy land.
UncleBuck
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good luck on being taken seriously with your revolution when you have clown makeup painted all over your face
Benefits Paid to Members of Congress
You may have read that Members of Congress do not pay into Social Security. Well, that's a myth.
Prior to 1984, neither Members of Congress nor any other federal civil service employee paid Social Security taxes. Of course, they were also not eligible to receive Social Security benefits. Members of Congress and other federal employees were instead covered by a separate pension plan called the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS). The 1983 amendments to the Social Security Act required federal employees first hired after 1983 to participate in Social Security. These amendments also required all Members of Congress to participate in Social Security as of January 1, 1984, regardless of when they first entered Congress. Because the CSRS was not designed to coordinate with Social Security, Congress directed the development of a new retirement plan for federal workers. The result was the Federal Employees' Retirement System Act of 1986.
Members of Congress receive retirement and health benefits under the same plans available to other federal employees. They become vested after five years of full participation.
Members elected since 1984 are covered by the Federal Employees' Retirement System (FERS). Those elected prior to 1984 were covered by the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS). In 1984 all members were given the option of remaining with CSRS or switching to FERS.
As it is for all other federal employees, congressional retirement is funded through taxes and the participants' contributions. Members of Congress under FERS contribute 1.3 percent of their salary into the FERS retirement plan and pay 6.2 percent of their salary in Social Security taxes.
Members of Congress are not eligible for a pension until they reach the age of 50, but only if they've completed 20 years of service. Members are eligible at any age after completing 25 years of service or after they reach the age of 62. Please also note that Members of Congress have to serve at least 5 years to even receive a pension.
The amount of a congressperson's pension depends on the years of service and the average of the highest 3 years of his or her salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member's retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary.
According to the Congressional Research Service, 413 retired Members of Congress were receiving federal pensions based fully or in part on their congressional service as of Oct. 1, 2006. Of this number, 290 had retired under CSRS and were receiving an average annual pension of $60,972. A total of 123 Members had retired with service under both CSRS and FERS or with service under FERS only. Their average annual pension was $35,952 in 2006.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/congresspay.htm
You may have read that Members of Congress do not pay into Social Security. Well, that's a myth.
Prior to 1984, neither Members of Congress nor any other federal civil service employee paid Social Security taxes. Of course, they were also not eligible to receive Social Security benefits. Members of Congress and other federal employees were instead covered by a separate pension plan called the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS). The 1983 amendments to the Social Security Act required federal employees first hired after 1983 to participate in Social Security. These amendments also required all Members of Congress to participate in Social Security as of January 1, 1984, regardless of when they first entered Congress. Because the CSRS was not designed to coordinate with Social Security, Congress directed the development of a new retirement plan for federal workers. The result was the Federal Employees' Retirement System Act of 1986.
Members of Congress receive retirement and health benefits under the same plans available to other federal employees. They become vested after five years of full participation.
Members elected since 1984 are covered by the Federal Employees' Retirement System (FERS). Those elected prior to 1984 were covered by the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS). In 1984 all members were given the option of remaining with CSRS or switching to FERS.
As it is for all other federal employees, congressional retirement is funded through taxes and the participants' contributions. Members of Congress under FERS contribute 1.3 percent of their salary into the FERS retirement plan and pay 6.2 percent of their salary in Social Security taxes.
Members of Congress are not eligible for a pension until they reach the age of 50, but only if they've completed 20 years of service. Members are eligible at any age after completing 25 years of service or after they reach the age of 62. Please also note that Members of Congress have to serve at least 5 years to even receive a pension.
The amount of a congressperson's pension depends on the years of service and the average of the highest 3 years of his or her salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member's retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary.
According to the Congressional Research Service, 413 retired Members of Congress were receiving federal pensions based fully or in part on their congressional service as of Oct. 1, 2006. Of this number, 290 had retired under CSRS and were receiving an average annual pension of $60,972. A total of 123 Members had retired with service under both CSRS and FERS or with service under FERS only. Their average annual pension was $35,952 in 2006.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/congresspay.htm
bongtokinjuggalo
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i like how you think.
dont think of it as insulting you, twas only constructive critisism to see if you are smarter than the average bear. i wanted to draw out someone who won't just crack jokes on me for being "juggalo"
im aware of the amish
UncleBuck
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i can't be certain, so i ask, was the 'high brow' remark directed at me?
because i don't drive an escalade and have never utilized a talking map. i do have a merit badge in survival skills on my way to life scout
Perfextionist420
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he speaks from the heart but not from knowledge, young confused and angry with the world as we all were once. sit back and think about what your revolution will actually entail, now realize that its posting on a forum of stoned people at 2 in the morning
just dont get frustrated and go shooting people is all i ask
just dont get frustrated and go shooting people is all i ask
bongtokinjuggalo
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good luck on being taken seriously with your revolution when you have clown makeup painted all over your face
thanks. but fyi i havent painted my face in who knows how long. either way, i culd just call it war paint =)
UncleBuck
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sorry about the juggalo jokes, i am weak and can't resist an easy jab. picking on icp is just so in style right now...
i get what you're saying, but just try not to warn us about socialism while boasting of the merits of the public library.
bongtokinjuggalo
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you're right there friend. i am a tad bit ignorant to ALL the laws that fuck us over, but have you read every single law in detail that determine your everyday life cycles? can you fully understand all the beuracratic mumbo-jumbo designed so that loopholes can be found for people to weasel their way out of a law or into profit
if i did go on a killing spree, it wouldn't be be from frustration or shooting. logically fueled rage w/ words as my weapon
Perfextionist420
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bongtokinjuggalo
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"education is the most effective form of rebellion"-Thorin
why not boast about the ability to educate yourself on everything for free?
and im more concerned about a full blown invasion than socialism. Democracy naturally evolves into socialism, i cannot fight this on a nationwide scale, but if i can just avoid the whole world that would be great =)
UncleBuck
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like i said, TOO EASY
and like you said in your first post on this thread, we have to accept what we can and cannot control, and focus on controlling what we can. trying to control that which you can't will drive a person crazy.
that said, to the op, the only things assured in life are death and taxes. get used to the government 'stealing' the sweat from your brow. tere are ways out, but they are TOUGH.
Perfextionist420
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you dont need to read the laws to understand the world for what it is, just psychology a fundamental understanding of human nature and the ONE TRUTH which is follow the money
killing people wont help either or make a statement, ive contemplated suicide before and thought possibly my death should serve a purpose like capping my brains in front of the white house holding a sign that says the justice system leads to this. but i digress this would not solve anything and i have come a long way to the even headed person that i now am. life is short dont worry it will all be over soon on its own
bongtokinjuggalo
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