What's going on with my buds!

Shagga

Shagga

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Hi everyone,
I'm just needing some clarification on what the hell is going on with this plant.
It's been in flower for a little over 10 weeks from the flip.
It's a bug Buddha cheese strain With about 10% Amber trichomes,,
I've put up some pics if anyone could help me work out what the hell is happening with the new growth like fox tailing.. Do I let it go for a further week or so or get ready to harvest. I've been flushing for a good x2 weeks now and I have obviously started too early..
My humidity is 50-60% and temp is 24-28
Thanks guys!
 

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lawlrus

lawlrus

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My guess would be too much nitrogen, which appears to be supported by the dark green, glossy leaves in your second photo. In addition to that, the top end of your range of 28C isn't super hot, a little over 82F if my math is right, but having something close to the bulb in an extended stay with that heat might also induce foxtailing IME.


Some strains are more prone to it than others and some have pretty pronounced foxtails regardless of how well you have them dialed in, but my completely wild guess is that yours are environmental and not genetic based mostly on that second photo.
 
Shagga

Shagga

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lawlrus said:
My guess would be too much nitrogen, which appears to be evidenced by the dark green, glossy leaves in your second photo. In addition to that, the top end of your range of 28C isn't super hot, a little over 82F if my math is right, but having something close to the bulb in an extended stay with that heat might also induce foxtailing IME.
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Shagga

Shagga

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lawlrus said:
My guess would be too much nitrogen, which appears to be evidenced by the dark green, glossy leaves in your second photo. In addition to that, the top end of your range of 28C isn't super hot, a little over 82F if my math is right, but having something close to the bulb in an extended stay with that heat might also induce foxtailing IME.
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lawlrus said:
My guess would be too much nitrogen, which appears to be supported by the dark green, glossy leaves in your second photo. In addition to that, the top end of your range of 28C isn't super hot, a little over 82F if my math is right, but having something close to the bulb in an extended stay with that heat might also induce foxtailing IME.


Some strains are more prone to it than others and some have pretty pronounced foxtails regardless of how well you have them dialed in, but my completely wild guess is that yours are environmental and not genetic based mostly on that second photo.
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thanks for the reply,
I guess I'm getting thrown off by the new growth,, will they continue to grow or eventually finish up?
I'm hoping to harvest soon but saying that I've waited this long,, not sure what to do.
Thanks
 
Craig1969SS

Craig1969SS

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You can't reverse it, you've eliminated the nitrogen as well. Heat is to blame? Not sure there but I'd say no. Seems more to do with going on too long. Their ready to harvest so reap your reward, you've earned it after 10 weeks. Isn't the cheese strain indica dominant ?
 
Shagga

Shagga

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Craig1969SS said:
You can't reverse it, you've eliminated the nitrogen as well. Heat is to blame? Not sure there but I'd say no. Seems more to do with going on too long. Their ready to harvest so reap your reward, you've earned it after 10 weeks. Isn't the cheese strain indica dominant ?
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Thanks for the reply,mate.
Yeah I was under the impression it's a indica dominate strain..
The humidity was quite hard to control as I'm living on the coast but it never went over 65% mainly stayed stable at 55-60 and temps never over 29-30 and stable on 25- 27degrees
I do think it's very possible I've let it go past its peak,, maybe I've been reading into things too much as in watching trichomes,,when they say" when you think it's done,,go an extra week" well haha I think I've done that twice now!
I've stopped watering / flushing for x2 days now.
Would you think it's worth leaving the lights off for x2 days and take it down or just chop just befor the light come back on? Sorry I know that question should be on another post.
Thanks
 
hellmutt bones

hellmutt bones

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No worries mate its just having the last growth spurt so usually trics stay clear till it all finishes i say another two weeks if not jus chop her down.
 
lawlrus

lawlrus

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Shagga said:
thanks for the reply,
I guess I'm getting thrown off by the new growth,, will they continue to grow or eventually finish up?
I'm hoping to harvest soon but saying that I've waited this long,, not sure what to do.
Thanks
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Some strains will continue to push out new pistils and entirely new foxtails seemingly forever regardless of how far along the rest of the plant is, and in that case you just use your scope on the rest of the flower to determine how far along it actually is. Granted, these are often the types that flower for more like 15-20 weeks rather than the usual 8-10, but there are plenty of west coast and "dutch special" poly-hybrids that do the same thing towards the end of flowering.

The reason I said I felt like it might be more environmental than genetic is because of the high end of the heat range you mentioned and the very dark and glossy green leaves I saw in the second photo you posted. It's possibly that there is a combination of both in this case, but either way, if your scope is showing that the trichomes on the majority of the flowers are ready to your liking, chop it down whenever you're ready.

From my perspective, just glancing at the photos you posted alone and with what little other info I have, I'm guessing you could go another week at least and get a bit of extra bulk as well. I'm on a small screen and you didn't post macro shots of the trichomes themselves so it's tough to say with any real degree of accuracy.
 
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HydroRed

HydroRed

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I think they have likely run their course and are ready for harvest @ 10 wks with amber trichs. The foxtailing wont subside or get any better. Actually, being a runner of 2 different cheese strains myself I noticed that both of mine foxtailed in the last 2 wks or so of flower with optimum environmental factors. Both were Indica dominant strains. I think the cheese are just natural foxtail strains IMO. Nice looking buds though!
 
Jimmy Sparkle

Jimmy Sparkle

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In (my opinion only) this is a sign of over ripeness. I have had to wait past the perfect "window" of ripeness by 15 days or so 1 time and most all the buds looked like that. You may even notice premature male flowers popping out of your buds here and there,they will be pale yellowish. Search" overripe buds" and you will see many like yours. I'm probably wrong.They still look f*%ing awesome.
 
Shagga

Shagga

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Thank you everyone for the reply!
Some awesome info and sound advise I got from you blokes!
Hope It still smokes up good after I try and slow dry it.
I'll post a harvest pic or two at some point and see what's the verdict is haha
cross fingers!
Cheers.
 
Craig1969SS

Craig1969SS

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Trichomes are never definitive. FYI you ever see plump full Amber trichomes? No they are always dried looking and shriveled. Cloudy and clear ones are always full and plump. I try to add that to the plants conditions at the time before harvest. No one single thing says to harvest, not trichomes, pistols just the 10 weeks you spent caring for them. Yes I'd put em deep sleep before harvest it won't hurt a thing.
 
Craig1969SS

Craig1969SS

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Also if you look at the underside of the small leaves full up with glitter you'll get a better understanding of the Trichome condition. The leaves on top directly in the harsh light will be more Amber than the ones underneath. I finished my last ones with a 1000watt MH hanging vertical for 10 days then stowed them in darkness for 2 days. Did it make a difference..idk but they sure turned out to be very good and potent.
 

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superbak3d

superbak3d

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Cut them down now. She's done.

Ignore any new white hairs, they'll ripen up when hang drying.

Also, don't flush, don't bother with extended darkness. It does nothing.
 
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