What’s the most dry weight you have pulled from a autoflower

SheldonCooper said:
I totally get your point. When I'm getting a good start and a good pheno she outperforms photos every day a week. Also when you get it right in the beginning she stays strong and grows by herself the rest of the time. Autos know they have to perform at max as they have a clock ticking, this clock gives autos extra power to really get huge and heavy.
Autos are the future man, photos don't have a chance.
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autos are the future? a stubby plant that is basically a good pheno mixed with a bad one? never happen. autos are for people that don't have the skills to grow photos, which are an infinitely superior strain. ruderalis is a low yielding, low potency, not even good for hemp, shrub.
mixing it with very good phenos only result in reducing the quality to those phenos...
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
autos are the future? a stubby plant that is basically a good pheno mixed with a bad one? never happen. autos are for people that don't have the skills to grow photos, which are an infinitely superior strain. ruderalis is a low yielding, low potency, not even good for hemp, shrub.
mixing it with very good phenos only result in reducing the quality to those phenos...
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On paper I agree with you, but practically speaking they serve legitimate purposes. For instance, if you want a perpetual grow and only have one tent, in that situations you're really psyched that autos exist.
 
Humanrob said:
On paper I agree with you, but practically speaking they serve legitimate purposes. For instance, if you want a perpetual grow and only have one tent, in that situations you're really psyched that autos exist.
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well, you're right, and in reality, i have nothing against autos, and have smoked some that are fire. i have even participated in the last three comparative grows from the vault.
but to say that autos are the wave of the future and that photos have no chance against them is ludicrous. they have their place, some people are limited by space, some people just like the convenience, some people like the quick turnover....but you'll never, ever, get the yields, or the quality, of a non ruderalis crossed photo
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
well, you're right, and in reality, i have nothing against autos, and have smoked some that are fire. i have even participated in the last three comparative grows from the vault.
but to say that autos are the wave of the future and that photos have no chance against them is ludicrous. they have their place, some people are limited by space, some people just like the convenience, some people like the quick turnover....but you'll never, ever, get the yields, or the quality, of a non ruderalis crossed photo
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Word.
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
well, you're right, and in reality, i have nothing against autos, and have smoked some that are fire. i have even participated in the last three comparative grows from the vault.
but to say that autos are the wave of the future and that photos have no chance against them is ludicrous. they have their place, some people are limited by space, some people just like the convenience, some people like the quick turnover....but you'll never, ever, get the yields, or the quality, of a non ruderalis crossed photo
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I noticed you said yield, that autos cant get the same yield as photos. What kind of yield are we talking about, how much would impress you? Ive got 4x600w hps running and some autos in my room right now.

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I know that this will for sure be an heavy harvest. Maybe not as good as your photoperiods, but who knows?
I will for sure share the yield and some nice buds here around harvest to see if i can impress you.
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
autos are the future? a stubby plant that is basically a good pheno mixed with a bad one? never happen. autos are for people that don't have the skills to grow photos, which are an infinitely superior strain. ruderalis is a low yielding, low potency, not even good for hemp, shrub.
mixing it with very good phenos only result in reducing the quality to those phenos...
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Daaammmm! That's how you feel?
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
well, you're right, and in reality, i have nothing against autos, and have smoked some that are fire. i have even participated in the last three comparative grows from the vault.
but to say that autos are the wave of the future and that photos have no chance against them is ludicrous. they have their place, some people are limited by space, some people just like the convenience, some people like the quick turnover....but you'll never, ever, get the yields, or the quality, of a non ruderalis crossed photo
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I believe that you may be right...why couldn't some of the breeders come up with a different plant besides a ruderalis to make an auto? They make all these other crazy combos,why not for autos?
 
the ruderalis is the plant that contains the gene than makes them autoflower, gotta have it. i guess there is another breed they call Iranian (?)
but its about the same as ruderalis, a plant has to have a pretty harsh environment to evolve autoflowering as a survival response.
 
Manipulate the light cycle. I can veg a kush or indica variety from feminized seed 1 week @ 24 hours per day. One week at 18 hours of light per day. Then switch to flowering. At one month she will start forming flowers and finish at around 80 days. I won't have to worry with low potency or funky mutations.
 
RetiredGuerilla said:
Manipulate the light cycle. I can veg a kush or indica variety from feminized seed 1 week @ 24 hours per day. One week at 18 hours of light per day. Then switch to flowering. At one month she will start forming flowers and finish at around 80 days. I won't have to worry with low potency or funky mutations.
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WOW... The Force is strong with this one!!!
 
Yep .... Think good strains / cuts CROSSED with a handicap........

Ruderalis only good characteristic is its fast grow life. But this is where being a 3rd wheel comes into play. Autos will throw herms ( on its own sometimes ) , throw males , mutations , inconsistent growth , or even dud out. Autos HAVE GOTTEN BETTER than say 15-20 years ago .... Mighty mite strain for example. Regulars get the bulk of your weed , autos get you fast product ( good shit depending on breeder ) which are perfect for small growths .

However , Autos ( outdoors ) can get fairly big. Indoors I get 4-5 foot plants easily.
Sativas ( sat Dom ) even better. The Quality is there among autos , just have to find the ones that work for you. I like autos because I can use one light cycle for both vegging and flowering plants .....
 
SheldonCooper said:
I noticed you said yield, that autos cant get the same yield as photos. What kind of yield are we talking about, how much would impress you? Ive got 4x600w hps running and some autos in my room right now.

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I know that this will for sure be an heavy harvest. Maybe not as good as your photoperiods, but who knows?
I will for sure share the yield and some nice buds here around harvest to see if i can impress you.
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BAZINGA !
 
SheldonCooper said:
I noticed you said yield, that autos cant get the same yield as photos. What kind of yield are we talking about, how much would impress you? Ive got 4x600w hps running and some autos in my room right now.

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I know that this will for sure be an heavy harvest. Maybe not as good as your photoperiods, but who knows?
I will for sure share the yield and some nice buds here around harvest to see if i can impress you.
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those look good, and you don't need to impress me. it's just a matter of genetics. the plants that have the autoflowering gene developed it to survive in harsh growing conditions and short seasons. they don't have time to grow a lot of trichs, they've been bred to sprint to the finish. when you mix those genetics with a photoperiod plant, you lose some of its potential size and potency to gain the autoflowering trait. so like i said, i got nothing against them, i've grown some and will grow more, and some has been awesome. but the same photo pheno without the ruderalis would have been better....
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
those look good, and you don't need to impress me. it's just a matter of genetics. the plants that have the autoflowering gene developed it to survive in harsh growing conditions and short seasons. they don't have time to grow a lot of trichs, they've been bred to sprint to the finish. when you mix those genetics with a photoperiod plant, you lose some of its potential size and potency to gain the autoflowering trait. so like i said, i got nothing against them, i've grown some and will grow more, and some has been awesome. but the same photo pheno without the ruderalis would have been better....
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Knowledge me,o wise one!!!
 
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